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Faith in Cryptic, Is it back?

acoldtacoldt Member Posts: 64 Arc User
For years we've all had our doubts that Cryptic could pull it together and make this game a true Trek experience. We've sat through content drouths that lasted nearly years. Klingons have had to suffer with half a faction since launch. We've seen difficulties with stability and bugs, some of which have been persistent.

However, today, we see Cryptic's best hand yet, and the single largest change to Star Trek Online since its launch in February of 2010.

The question here, to the community, is simple. With the announcement of the new Romulan faction and a far more expanded(possibly finished) Klingon faction, and the myriad of other new additions, has your faith in Cryptic as a company been restored? strengthened? or were you one of the hopefuls that never lost it.
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  • darthstormstrikedarthstormstrike Member Posts: 771 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Still in wait and see mode. But that's a step up from "Are the people at Cryptic just that incompetent or what?"
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  • storobertpraetorstorobertpraetor Member Posts: 51 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    I was around for Beta and launch... so I'm like you. I've had little faith in Cryptic for a LONG time. Every time they put something new and cool into game, it breaks the game in other areas.

    So when may 21st rolls around and the Romulans come out. IF they come out and the game holds together... then yes. I will see this as Cryptic turning over a new leaf and i'll have some confidence in them again. But i am not holding my breath.
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  • snoggymack22snoggymack22 Member Posts: 7,084 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    acoldt wrote: »
    The question here, to the community, is simple. With the announcement of the new Romulan faction and a far more expanded(possibly finished) Klingon faction, and the myriad of other new additions, has your faith in Cryptic as a company been restored? strengthened? or were you one of the hopefuls that never lost it.
    Actions speak louder than announcements. They've hyped things in the past that haven't turned out the way they hyped them.

    So, we'll see.
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  • tegeretegere Member Posts: 5 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    I have faith! I beleve that with the increased staff size thanks to Prefect World this games situation will turn around.
  • jonpark020979jonpark020979 Member Posts: 41 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    things go wrong from time to time but i still have faith, if i didn't i wouldn't have taken the time to become a lifetime member of sto. Also i feel things are moving in the right direction, however somethings need to be upgraded.

    I would like to see a higher monthly payout to lifers, maybe 1000 zen a month instead of 500. Also the amount of Dil that can be refinded a day as well. Maybe also giving lifers the option to recive the special ships ie the jem'hadar attack ship or the cardassian galor class and not have to hope to get them by chance.

    Anyway i can't wait to see the new faction in may and the changes to sto in the months after.
  • storobertpraetorstorobertpraetor Member Posts: 51 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Actions speak louder than announcements. They've hyped things in the past that haven't turned out the way they hyped them.

    So, we'll see.


    I agree for the most part. But they haven't hyped something like this before. F2P almost came in as a whimper compared to this. So if they were ever going to turn things around it would be now.
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  • jonpark020979jonpark020979 Member Posts: 41 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    tegere wrote: »
    I have faith! I beleve that with the increased staff size thanks to Prefect World this games situation will turn around.

    don't forget the people we got when city of hero's went offline most of there techs came to sto after that perfect world said yes go get them
  • duaths1duaths1 Member Posts: 1,232 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    i hope ill be able to

    - download the patch
    - actually play without 20s lags and disconnects

    on the launch day. They really could use some improvements, as from central EU, the servers are lagging hard every day around this time.
  • brigadooombrigadooom Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Haha no. Permanent state of yellow alert around Cryptic :o
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  • acoldtacoldt Member Posts: 64 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    In all honesty I let my subscriber benefits run out before the f2p launch, and the only reason I'm playing now is because I can play for free, but this... this makes me want to splurge on the lifetime membership, I think it'd be worth it.
  • kirksplatkirksplat Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    We don't even know to what extent it really is a "faction."
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  • chalpenchalpen Member Posts: 2,207 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Not until we get clarification.
    Should I start posting again after all this time?
  • rjcfoxtrotrjcfoxtrot Member Posts: 109 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Actions define, words are but a TRIBBLE in the wind.

    I'm excited over the recent announcements, but we'll see how awesome it all is when we get to start playing it.
  • crypticarmsmancrypticarmsman Member Posts: 4,115 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    While I don't agree with the group of KDF players already trashing Cryptic thinking all they did for the KDF was lover the start Level to 1 and add a KDF tutorial -- I do understand why many of the folks in that group would feel that way.

    I too am in a 'wait and see' mode; but I guess I'm still optimistic that the STO Dev team knows what just doing ten above for the KDF would result in; and instead they've added actual 1-20 KDF only focused PvE content to 'complete' the faction (although I will concede that no matter what Cryptic does for the KDF - there are some players who will never see the KDF faction as anything but incomplete until the day the STO servers close.)

    If, in the end, it is two complete factions, I think Cryptic will get a reputation boost by the majority of it's playerbase; but time will tell.
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  • stirling191stirling191 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    chalpen wrote: »
    Not until we get clarification.

    This.

    Cryptic has the art of hyping things up down pat. The art of actually delivering on that hype...not so much. A completely nebulous teaser page replacing a slightly more nebulous teaser countdown does nothing to change that.
  • daan2006daan2006 Member Posts: 5,346 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Still in wait and see mode. But that's a step up from "Are the people at Cryptic just that incompetent or what?"

    this^^^^^
    chalpen wrote: »
    Not until we get clarification.

    and this^^^^^^^
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    This! Their ability to outdo their own failures is quite impressive. If only this power could be harnessed for good.
  • acoldtacoldt Member Posts: 64 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    While I don't agree with the group of KDF players already trashing Cryptic thinking all they did for the KDF was lover the start Level to 1 and add a KDF tutorial -- I do understand why many of the folks in that group would feel that way.

    I too am in a 'wait and see' mode; but I guess I'm still optimistic that the STO Dev team knows what just doing ten above for the KDF would result in; and instead they've added actual 1-20 KDF only focused PvE content to 'complete' the faction (although I will concede that no matter what Cryptic does for the KDF - there are some players who will never see the KDF faction as anything but incomplete until the day the STO servers close.)

    If, in the end, it is two complete factions, I think Cryptic will get a reputation boost by the majority of it's playerbase; but time will tell.

    Then the question arises, is the Romulan faction "complete" as well, or is it the half-assed faction the the KDF was at launch. We know there's something there, something original, and something Romulan but, did the Klingons get the same, and is it enough?
  • redshirtthefirstredshirtthefirst Member Posts: 415 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    I am in a "wait and see" mode as well, but this announcement surely takes the cake in terms of promises and such. It's not just a "Dstahl says" post, it is an official front page full on announcement.

    So far, they hit a very high mark... However, I will pop the champagne cork when I read the patch notes or have a lot more official details of said content (especially about KDF).
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  • borgdmanborgdman Member Posts: 25 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    I do have faith in Cryptic, that's why I became a lifetime member.
    Cryptic has had some ups & downs when they hype something or things not working out like they think it should. But I do hope this works out fine. I mean we still have what 1 month an one week or maybe 2 months, which would put this Romulan Faction to be flushed out better.

    I quess we'll have to wait an see how things turn out.
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  • captaintrueheartcaptaintrueheart Member Posts: 296 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    acoldt wrote: »
    The question here, to the community, is simple. With the announcement of the new Romulan faction and a far more expanded(possibly finished) Klingon faction, and the myriad of other new additions, has your faith in Cryptic as a company been restored? strengthened? or were you one of the hopefuls that never lost it.


    Making an announcement is a far cry from actually delivering something...

    If in May there is much needed depth added to the game then sure, I'll have a bit more faith in the dev team. However if it's grinding a Romulan character to death to get to level 50 then grinding him into the ground more then no, I'll still hold on to my view that the dev team does not have the right vision for this game.

    STO deserves a deep continued Star Trek experience not the cheesy grindfests they've put out since around the time they stopped letting you take your BOs with you in the featured series.
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  • lordmalak1lordmalak1 Member Posts: 4,681 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    I am in a "wait and see" mode as well, but this announcement surely takes the cake in terms of promises and such. It's not just a "Dstahl says" post, it is an official front page full on announcement.

    So far, they hit a very high mark... However, I will pop the champagne cork when I read the patch notes or have a lot more official details of said content (especially about KDF).

    I'll rejoin ya 'wait and see'ers' but I recall ALOT of "time permitting" quotes from DS's last few interviews so I wont be holding my breath expecting revolutionary changes to STO.

    History has a way of repeating itself, and cryptic doesn't have a very good history with anything not related to their favored faction.
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  • bublawekbublawek Member Posts: 123 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    I havent played yet but just from reading the promo all I can say is WOW!!!!!!!!
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  • evendzharevendzhar Member Posts: 209 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    I'm just repeating what others have said, but...

    It's easy to make promises. Keeping them is much harder. As Cryptic has shown time and time again.
  • thlaylierahthlaylierah Member Posts: 2,987 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Sorry, but NO.

    While this update looks very nice, it is overshadowed by the Andorian Phaser Nerf that joins the long list of gaffs since "Galaxy Gate."

    Some may argue that this is the nature of MMOs.

    If so, what favorite aspect of this upcoming update will they nerf later?
  • weylandjuarezweylandjuarez Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Actions speak louder than concept art.
    Please join our peaceful protest to help make STO a better game
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  • capnmanxcapnmanx Member Posts: 1,452 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Every developer, no matter how many games they've made that I like, can still produce games that I do not. I don't put 'faith' in companies, just individual products. If I didn't like the product, I wouldn't play it; and if I didn't think the product still had lots of potential, I wouldn't waste my time discussing its future on the internet.
  • father0niveusfather0niveus Member Posts: 14 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    don't forget the people we got when city of hero's went offline most of there techs came to sto after that perfect world said yes go get them

    The announcement of a Romulan faction along with the other improvements for May has definitely raised my hopes where Cryptic is concerned. If the above is true (I will not rant about NCSoft, I will not rant about NCSoft, I will not...ahem) then it will certainly improve my faith in them as well since the addition of such talent can only improve the STO experience. You've made a very promising step here today Cryptic/PW, here's to hoping it's the first of many to come.
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  • curs0rcurs0r Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    acoldt wrote: »
    For years we've all had our doubts that Cryptic could pull it together and make this game a true Trek experience. We've sat through content drouths that lasted nearly years. Klingons have had to suffer with half a faction since launch. We've seen difficulties with stability and bugs, some of which have been persistent.

    However, today, we see Cryptic's best hand yet, and the single largest change to Star Trek Online since its launch in February of 2010.

    The question here, to the community, is simple. With the announcement of the new Romulan faction and a far more expanded(possibly finished) Klingon faction, and the myriad of other new additions, has your faith in Cryptic as a company been restored? strengthened? or were you one of the hopefuls that never lost it.

    We're seeing more than I expected and that's a good start. Having said that, adding Romulan play might make this a more Trek-like experience for players who wish to play as Romulans or KDF in that they're generally considered hostile. Federation play will not be enhanced by that imo. We will still be extremely far off from what the Federation was portrayed to be in the shows. So ultimately I have a bit more faith in them to begin producing more content, but I remain dubious that we'll ever see changes that bring it more inline with Star Trek (from certain perspectives).
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  • zerobangzerobang Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    acoldt wrote: »
    The question here, to the community, is simple. With the announcement of the new Romulan faction and a far more expanded(possibly finished) Klingon faction, and the myriad of other new additions, has your faith in Cryptic as a company been restored?

    No.

    Because the teaser site revlealed less information that i expected, and did not confirm half of what people (including Opening Post) believe has been confirmed.


    The Romulan Factions can still be a "Start as" romulan, join FED/KDF later-mini sub monsterplay faction.
    People expect 50 levels of mission content now. -> there is no confirmation of this anywhere.


    There is NO confirmation of any Klingon content, there is just a confirmation that KDF will now start at level 1, there are plenty of ways to do this (increase XP numbers even further for example), also dStahl said in an interview that the ONLY thing being DISCUSSED was a new Tutorial for KDF (discussed != confirmed or happening). -> nothing KDF has been confirmed here other than a new lower starting level.


    I've seen a bit of Artwork that looked awesome, but Artwork always looks better than the end result in 3D. Still plenty of opportunity here to TRIBBLE it up.

    The Warbird, Mogai and BoP still look like the low poly NPC ships... NOT SCREEN ACCURATE! NOT GOOD ENOUGH! NOT AWESOME ENOUGH!

    TOS BoP... nice, but if that thing is Tier 5 the Tier 5 Connie Crowd on the Forums will go nuts about it for months and years...

    Tholian Rep?... we have been fighting Tholians for 2 Seasons now!
    If that is all that FED + KDF will get until the end of 2013 (Season 8 = end of 2013!), then we have a problem here folks.

    Will there even be new PvE queue missions for Tholian Rep, or will the Rep Marks just be added to the existing Vault Ensnared + Auzure Rescue missions? Nothing has been confirmed here other than that there will be another Reputation Tab with Tholian stuff this time.



    Not enough has been revealed, most of it was known before, and the tough questions are avoided with PR-lawyer talk...

    Nope, not impressed.


    I like the 3 tidbits that i see so far, but that isn't much to speak off really.
    A few tweet leaks with the Artwork Pictures would have done pretty much the same job.
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  • captsolcaptsol Member Posts: 921 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    acoldt wrote: »
    Then the question arises, is the Romulan faction "complete" as well, or is it the half-assed faction the the KDF was at launch. We know there's something there, something original, and something Romulan but, did the Klingons get the same, and is it enough?

    I highly doubt it's a complete faction. The amount of work needed to build the Federation has taken the whole time the game has been out and the Klingon faction hasn't been put anywhere near on par with it.

    Not that I'm a 'Poor Klingons!' player, but, even with their upped resources I doubt that Cryptic has had the manpower to build two complete factions on par with the Federation in this short a period of time while simultaneously building Neverwinter. Yes, I know they're different projects and different teams but I just don't believe that they've been able to design 1-20 content for Klingons as well as 1-50 content for Romulans.

    Not to mention all that content is on top of giving Romulans a huge amount of costumes, a tutorial, ships with various skins, bridges, interiors, and so on. I think we'll get a few missions to fill the 1-20 gap and then a sprinkling of faction missions mixed in with 'shared' content and grinding generic missions.
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