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  • deathomightdeathomight Member Posts: 25 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    A few things:

    The right handside (cstore) Heavy Escort Carrier (akira) should have 2 not 3 science consoles. Should also mention +15 weapon power, noticed when compared to the steamrunner next to it. (a bunch of other ships are missing the + power)

    Next on the left, the tier 3 Fleet Science Vessel Retrofit (the improved version of the two novas) has the wrong bridge officer layout.
    Sto Wiki says; Tac 3, Eng 2, Sci 4, Sci 2, Sci 1
    Both versions of the nova have 14 turn rate instead of 15.



    Something else that might want to include on all the ships is the impulse modifier...

    Final wish, any chance of putting the lock box ships up? :D

    Anyhow Great Work! Keep it up!
  • twg042370twg042370 Member Posts: 2,312 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    This has helped my "What ship is that?!" curiosity. Thanks.
    <3
  • starfish1701starfish1701 Member Posts: 782 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Updated to include some corrections and the addition of the Chel Grett.
    http://starfish1.co.uk/chart1.jpg
    A few things:

    The right handside (cstore) Heavy Escort Carrier (akira) should have 2 not 3 science consoles. Should also mention +15 weapon power, noticed when compared to the steamrunner next to it. (a bunch of other ships are missing the + power)

    Next on the left, the tier 3 Fleet Science Vessel Retrofit (the improved version of the two novas) has the wrong bridge officer layout.
    Sto Wiki says; Tac 3, Eng 2, Sci 4, Sci 2, Sci 1
    Both versions of the nova have 14 turn rate instead of 15.



    Something else that might want to include on all the ships is the impulse modifier...

    Final wish, any chance of putting the lock box ships up? :D

    Anyhow Great Work! Keep it up!

    Thanks for that. Very much appreciated. :D

    According to the ingame requisition screen it seems the fleet store Novas have 15 turn rate. I don't actually own one so I can't verify. If someone can, that would be excellent, as requisitions might be wrong.

    The power layouts on the fleet ships are there because they are sorted by tier, and not by type. In the VA section the typical power layouts are in the title block on the left. Only where it varies have I added the ships power layout, except for the Vesta variants because they don't seem to follow the normal rules. :P I've actually taken the layout off the Steamrunner, as it was added in error.

    Okay, this is where my chart gets political... I haven't added the lock box or lobi ships on purpose. I only wanted to add ships that were reasonably obtainable. Some may disagree with that, and it might be my undoing, but it's a choice I've made and plan on sticking to for as long as I continue doing this. I've only added the Chel Grett as it's basically free.

    I might add the impulse modifier at some point. I should probably have done that to begin with. :o

    Many thanks again, for yours and everyone elses comments.
  • toivatoiva Member Posts: 3,276 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Updated to include some corrections and the addition of the Chel Grett.
    http://starfish1.co.uk/chart1.jpg



    Thanks for that. Very much appreciated. :D

    According to the ingame requisition screen it seems the fleet store Novas have 15 turn rate. I don't actually own one so I can't verify. If someone can, that would be excellent, as requisitions might be wrong.

    The power layouts on the fleet ships are there because they are sorted by tier, and not by type. In the VA section the typical power layouts are in the title block on the left. Only where it varies have I added the ships power layout, except for the Vesta variants because they don't seem to follow the normal rules. :P I've actually taken the layout off the Steamrunner, as it was added in error.

    Okay, this is where my chart gets political... I haven't added the lock box or lobi ships on purpose. I only wanted to add ships that were reasonably obtainable. Some may disagree with that, and it might be my undoing, but it's a choice I've made and plan on sticking to for as long as I continue doing this. I've only added the Chel Grett as it's basically free.

    I might add the impulse modifier at some point. I should probably have done that to begin with. :o

    Many thanks again, for yours and everyone elses comments.

    Looks great.

    Don't have any of the fleet Novas, however i clearly remember patchnotes mentioning their turn rate bumped from 14 to 15 a while back. So i'd think the wiki's got the old turn rate listed.
    TOIVA, Toi Vaxx, Toia Vix, Toveg, T'vritha, To Vrax: Bring in the Allegiance class.
    Toi'Va, Ti'vath, Toivia, Ty'Vris, Tia Vex, Toi'Virth: Add Tier 6 KDF Carrier and Raider.
    Tae'Va, T'Vaya, To'Var, Tevra, T'Vira, To'Vrak: Give us Asylums for Romulans.

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  • armedbushidoarmedbushido Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Updated to include some corrections and the addition of the Chel Grett.
    http://starfish1.co.uk/chart1.jpg

    Okay, this is where my chart gets political... I haven't added the lock box or lobi ships on purpose. I only wanted to add ships that were reasonably obtainable. Some may disagree with that, and it might be my undoing, but it's a choice I've made and plan on sticking to for as long as I continue doing this. I've only added the Chel Grett as it's basically free.

    Well I understand your view and respect it, and agree a little - I just think everyone wants a chart that has everything.

    Still your doing the work so it up too you how much or little you do. Looks great and hope you change your mind. :)

    /salute
  • starfish1701starfish1701 Member Posts: 782 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    Just uploaded version 2.3

    Updated to include this weeks changes to the shield modifiers and the addition of the Fleet Ambassador.
    http://www.starfish1.co.uk/chart1.jpg

    Changes have been taken from the shipyard in-game.

    As always, if you spot anything wrong, let me know. :)
  • idronaidrona Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    That is pretty dang nice, just wish I had a huge color printer now.
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  • armedbushidoarmedbushido Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    As always great work!
  • toivatoiva Member Posts: 3,276 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    Great you keep updating it. ;)

    Now if only there was a KDF chart...
    TOIVA, Toi Vaxx, Toia Vix, Toveg, T'vritha, To Vrax: Bring in the Allegiance class.
    Toi'Va, Ti'vath, Toivia, Ty'Vris, Tia Vex, Toi'Virth: Add Tier 6 KDF Carrier and Raider.
    Tae'Va, T'Vaya, To'Var, Tevra, T'Vira, To'Vrak: Give us Asylums for Romulans.

    Don't make ARC mandatory! Keep it optional only!
  • row124row124 Member Posts: 77 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    What about the Ferengi ship and the Cardassian ship?
  • toivatoiva Member Posts: 3,276 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Starfish, I just noticed there's a mistake in your chart:

    The Fleet science vessel retrofit (Fleet Nova) should have a Lt.Comm. Tac boff slot instead of Lt. and vice versa (the Lt.Comm. Sci boff slot should be Lt. only).

    row124 wrote: »
    What about the Ferengi ship and the Cardassian ship?

    Those aren't Vice-Admiral (and Lt. General), but Rear Admiral (and Brigadier General) level ships, unlike all others in this chart.
    TOIVA, Toi Vaxx, Toia Vix, Toveg, T'vritha, To Vrax: Bring in the Allegiance class.
    Toi'Va, Ti'vath, Toivia, Ty'Vris, Tia Vex, Toi'Virth: Add Tier 6 KDF Carrier and Raider.
    Tae'Va, T'Vaya, To'Var, Tevra, T'Vira, To'Vrak: Give us Asylums for Romulans.

    Don't make ARC mandatory! Keep it optional only!
  • starfish1701starfish1701 Member Posts: 782 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    toiva wrote: »
    Starfish, I just noticed there's a mistake in your chart:

    The Fleet science vessel retrofit (Fleet Nova) should have a Lt.Comm. Tac boff slot instead of Lt. and vice versa (the Lt.Comm. Sci boff slot should be Lt. only).

    Thank you very much for that Toiva. Much appreciated. Well spotted, and sorry about that mistake. :o

    I have corrected it and uploaded, so that should be correct now.
  • toivatoiva Member Posts: 3,276 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Thank you very much for that Toiva. Much appreciated. Well spotted, and sorry about that mistake. :o

    I have corrected it and uploaded, so that should be correct now.

    You're welcome, that's the least I can do. ;)
    TOIVA, Toi Vaxx, Toia Vix, Toveg, T'vritha, To Vrax: Bring in the Allegiance class.
    Toi'Va, Ti'vath, Toivia, Ty'Vris, Tia Vex, Toi'Virth: Add Tier 6 KDF Carrier and Raider.
    Tae'Va, T'Vaya, To'Var, Tevra, T'Vira, To'Vrak: Give us Asylums for Romulans.

    Don't make ARC mandatory! Keep it optional only!
  • starfish1701starfish1701 Member Posts: 782 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Version 3.0 has just been uploaded to http://starfish1.co.uk/chart1.jpg

    Too many changes to list them all, but basically:

    All Federation faction playable ships and shuttles now added
    Chart re-orientated and transposed to a new 'portrait style'
    Created a device graphic to replace the text
    Impulse modifier added
    Inertia rating graphic added
    Ship base hull graphic area updated
    Console block updated to include console image
    Colour coded 'bonus power' graphics section added (my favourite bit)
    Graphic to represent dual cannons
    Graphics to represent sensor analysis and subsystem targeting
    Race specific watermarks added to appropriate ships

    Hope you like all the changes. There is potentially an overview and tutorial video to follow later, which some might find useful.

    Before anyone asks, yes a KDF chart is already in the works, and the first version will probably be ready in the next week or so. I will likely create a separate thread for the KDF to keep all the suggested corrections specific to its particular chart, so keep your eyes open if you are interested in that one too.

    As always, please let me know if you spot any errors. It takes a fair bit of time and concentration to put something this big together, so a few errors might creep in (no matter how careful I might be).

    Please let me know what you think. If I know people are still using it and continue to find it useful (and I hope they do) it helps motivate me to keep updating it and make changes like these ones above.

    Many thanks for all your support, Starfish1
  • kasandarokasandaro Member Posts: 198 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Freaking brilliant. Subscribing to keep tabs for updates, and seconding the KDF suggestion (and eventual warbird chart, post May-June).
  • starfish1701starfish1701 Member Posts: 782 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    kasandaro wrote: »
    Freaking brilliant. Subscribing to keep tabs for updates, and seconding the KDF suggestion (and eventual warbird chart, post May-June).

    Thanks for that :)
  • artan42artan42 Member Posts: 10,450 Bug Hunter
    edited April 2013
    Why is this not stickyed.
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    Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
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    '...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
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  • organicmanfredorganicmanfred Member Posts: 3,236 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Hey Fish, the next big hit from you :D

    Wonderfull chart.

    May I suggest a few things?

    - Background is pretty dark. Maybe bright elements (like SpiderMitch's beam effect) could lighten up a little.

    - Have you thought of doing the chart from left (Starter ships) to right (End/Fleet Ships)? Using the common reading order, it would be nicer to navigate.

    - I can't open the chart with Firefox or the standard Microsoft Picture Viewer. Both programs say the file is broken.

    By the way, when do we see your next vid? :D
  • philosopherephilosophere Member Posts: 607 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Very nice work Starfish!

    Agree with a previous poster that this should be stickied.

    I'll bet there is more work in this than in most foundry projects. Shame we can't tip you with some dilithium! :)
    Are we there yet?
  • starfish1701starfish1701 Member Posts: 782 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Hey Fish, the next big hit from you :D

    Wonderfull chart.

    May I suggest a few things?

    - Background is pretty dark. Maybe bright elements (like SpiderMitch's beam effect) could lighten up a little.

    - Have you thought of doing the chart from left (Starter ships) to right (End/Fleet Ships)? Using the common reading order, it would be nicer to navigate.

    - I can't open the chart with Firefox or the standard Microsoft Picture Viewer. Both programs say the file is broken.

    By the way, when do we see your next vid? :D

    Thanks Manfred.

    The background is dark on purpose. When I began this chart back last year I could see we were heading in the direction of lots more ships, so I wanted to create something that could be easily cut and pasted. Each frame and each block are modular. It makes for a plain design, but it's super easy for me to keep it updated, or expand it if I need to (and I suspect I will need to for some time to come). I only have Microsoft Word and MS Paint, if I ever get something more professional, I might be able to do more with it. Keeping it easy to update though means that I am more likely to do so, and not get burn out or fed up with it. :D

    I tested opening it with Chrome and Microsoft Internet Explorer and in Windows Photo Viewer. You can't open it with Paint anymore as it's so big now, it claims it is an invalid file. It could be that your Microsoft Picture Viewer is having that same issue. Out of interest, what have you managed to open it in?

    The vids are taking a rest I'm afraid. I will resume making those later in the year, and have lots of ideas, but I want to do the charts and maybe a tutorial or two first. But next week (I think) will be a short tutorial video with the fleet KDF chart which some people might find useful. I also want to make a tutorial video on the basics of using Demo Record (or how I use it at least), so people can take epic screenshots or make their own videos.

    With regards of the right to left, I changed it to the style it's in now to make it different to the charts that already exist from Spidermitch and Suricata, but that's not to say that I won't change it again at some point if the mood ever takes me.
    Very nice work Starfish!

    Agree with a previous poster that this should be stickied.

    I'll bet there is more work in this than in most foundry projects. Shame we can't tip you with some dilithium! :)

    Thank you, you are very kind. No dilithium is necessary though, just knowing that people find the chart useful is more than enough of a reward for the effort of making it.

    And thanks for the comment Artan42. Very much appreciated.
  • starfish1701starfish1701 Member Posts: 782 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Would it be possible to get this thread moved from Ten Forward to Federation Shipyards please?
  • organicmanfredorganicmanfred Member Posts: 3,236 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Hey Star,

    I hope you didn't take my post to personally.

    Sometimes my posts sound very harsh as I found out.



    You know how much I admire your work :D
  • tinkerstormtinkerstorm Member Posts: 853 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Great work! Your revision adding more end-game ships is great. I am glad that you are continuing the work of Suricata and Spidermitch.

    My only criticism is that the Advanced Transwarp Drive is not a universal console included with the Advanced Heavy Cruiser Retrofit; it is an innate ability that gives the ship additional transwarp destinations. The universal console that provides the Efficiency buff is included with purchase of the commander level Advanced Heavy Cruiser only.
  • starfish1701starfish1701 Member Posts: 782 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Great work! Your revision adding more end-game ships is great. I am glad that you are continuing the work of Suricata and Spidermitch.

    My only criticism is that the Advanced Transwarp Drive is not a universal console included with the Advanced Heavy Cruiser Retrofit; it is an innate ability that gives the ship additional transwarp destinations. The universal console that provides the Efficiency buff is included with purchase of the commander level Advanced Heavy Cruiser only.

    You know, I had a funny feeling about that when I was creating that frame. Thank you very much. Much appreciated. I will get that altered and upload it as v3.1 in the next few days. I will add a new post here as usual when I do.

    Thanks again. :)
    Hey Star,

    I hope you didn't take my post to personally.

    Sometimes my posts sound very harsh as I found out.



    You know how much I admire your work :D

    I didn't think your post sounded harsh at all, and didn't read anything negative in it.

    Besides, you're my 'number one' fan! :D
  • korfi2go#5083 korfi2go Member Posts: 133 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Great work, starfish! It's really great to have a graphical ship chart again.

    Just a few tiny things:
    - On the Wells and Mobius class it shows the image of the Jem'Hadar bridge instead of the 29th century one.
    - You might want to put in a key to all thode symbols to make it easier to read.
    - I noticed you have the link to the chart in your sig. However posting a textlink as agraphic is not exactly the most user-friendly version. I would suggest using actual text peaople can copy, or just actually link your signature to the chart.

    Enaough of the nitpicking already. Keep up the great work!
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  • starfish1701starfish1701 Member Posts: 782 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Great work, starfish! It's really great to have a graphical ship chart again.

    Just a few tiny things:
    - On the Wells and Mobius class it shows the image of the Jem'Hadar bridge instead of the 29th century one.
    - You might want to put in a key to all thode symbols to make it easier to read.
    - I noticed you have the link to the chart in your sig. However posting a textlink as agraphic is not exactly the most user-friendly version. I would suggest using actual text peaople can copy, or just actually link your signature to the chart.

    Enaough of the nitpicking already. Keep up the great work!

    Thanks for the feedback! :)

    I can't believe I let those wrong bridge images sneak in, and I should have spotted that before I uploaded it. I have an image of the 29th Century bridge which I thought I had used, so it's an easy alteration to make. I will add that to the list of changes, and upload that next week with the other corrections.

    A guide to the symbols will be in a video that is coming out this next week, but I think it might be an idea to add a key to the chart itself too.

    Good ideas. Many thanks again. :D
  • artan42artan42 Member Posts: 10,450 Bug Hunter
    edited April 2013
    Just a quick note on spelling. You spelt Sabre and Ionised the US way, but Point Defence the correct (:P) way. Also the Dreadnought cruiser makes no mention of the Venture X skin available.
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    Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
    JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.

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    'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
    'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
    '...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
    'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
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  • organicmanfredorganicmanfred Member Posts: 3,236 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Sorry, I missed your question about my graphic viewer:

    All of my common picture viewer couldn t handle the picture, only IrfanView could manage it.
    Problem is, when I want to zoom the picture, and that I have to do, I must autofire on the zoom button to make the picture bigger.

    Dont have Gimp right now at the moment to try.
  • thlaylierahthlaylierah Member Posts: 2,987 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Thank You for the updated chart Starfish.

    I always look forward to these.

    Only problem is the Vertical format makes a poor screen saver LOL.
  • starfish1701starfish1701 Member Posts: 782 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Thank You for the updated chart Starfish.

    I always look forward to these.

    Only problem is the Vertical format makes a poor screen saver LOL.

    A screensaver... now there is an idea...

    I did consider releasing the ships in frames of 9 per sheet of paper, so people could print them out like playing cards if they wanted.
    Sorry, I missed your question about my graphic viewer:

    All of my common picture viewer couldn t handle the picture, only IrfanView could manage it.
    Problem is, when I want to zoom the picture, and that I have to do, I must autofire on the zoom button to make the picture bigger.

    Dont have Gimp right now at the moment to try.

    No worries. Thanks for that.

    So long as you have something you can open it in that's great! As soon as the next lock box comes out it's going to get bigger though.
    artan42 wrote: »
    Just a quick note on spelling. You spelt Sabre and Ionised the US way, but Point Defence the correct (:P) way. Also the Dreadnought cruiser makes no mention of the Venture X skin available.

    "The 'correct' way." That was funny :D

    Yes, I will update the Dreadnought with that note later this week with the other changes.


    Thanks again for all the corrections and suggestions. Very much appreciated.
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