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jumpingjsjumpingjs Member Posts: 0 Arc User
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Regent Class. I love it. But I do not see very many though ...

And lets face it, I think the two most popular ships would probably be the Armitage and the Odyssey (the bought one!). I have the odyssey, I think I prefer it. But why are those two so good?

Also at the time of release, the Atrox was very popular, but you do not see very many now.

The most un-popular has to be that Vulcan ship. Seriously, like noun in game , and Cryptic had to do a blog post to get more support for it
Before F2P , the saucer separation Galaxy was popular, (ut you hardly see any) as was the dreadnought, which is still moderately popular. The MVAM ship , again before F2P was popular-ish The Tactical retrofit does seem to quite popular. Not sure about the ablative armor is acutally quite rare, now and before F2P , so I think that (perhaps with the Vulcan ship) go for being quite un-popular

PS: I have been in STFs and PvEs with 4 Odyssey and a Regent (Guess who was in the Regnt ;) )
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  • avarseiravarseir Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    The regents may just be in Sovvy skin. Since many here are trek-nuts, so its given if they wanna be in the ship that looks like the one in the movies!

    I'm sure you don't go around clicking on every Sovvy to check if its actually regent right?

    There're many regents out there, i can assure you.
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  • chalpenchalpen Member Posts: 2,207 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    The oddy is the best fed ship out there.
    A truely superior ship.

    The others are kind of all equally a joke.


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  • smokeybacon90smokeybacon90 Member Posts: 2,252 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    Most unpopular: Galaxy Retrofit. Did you even need to ask?
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  • jumpingjsjumpingjs Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    avarseir wrote: »
    The regents may just be in Sovvy skin. Since many here are trek-nuts, so its given if they wanna be in the ship that looks like the one in the movies!

    I'm sure you don't go around clicking on every Sovvy to check if its actually regent right?

    There're many regents out there, i can assure you.

    ahhhh forgot about that
    Hopefully I'll come back from my break; this break is fun; I play intellectual games.

    I hope STO get's better ...
  • dareaudareau Member Posts: 2,390 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    Keep in mind, that in the pre-F2P days, tier 5 Fed wasn't much more than what, the "TNG Heroes" (Defiant, Galaxy, Intrepid) retrofits and the Gal-X / Excelsior-R / Nebula / MVAE?

    Since then, we got the Oddessy pack, the Regent, Atrox, Armitage, Vesta pack. Obviously, each new ship was "incrementally" better than it's predecessors, so that the MVAE crowd "felt compelled" to buy an Armitage, etc.

    Then there's the fleet ships, the lockbox ships that are "fleet level", the Chel Grett built at "really near fleet level and free" and the Ambassador, which many argue is almost as capable as at least the Excelsior-R...

    Thusly, those "original" C-store ships, aka the "hero retrofits" have been outclassed and the only reasons to buy them now are if you really like their abilities/build, or if you're getting the fleet version - since it's $20 to buy just a fleet version, and $25 if you buy the C-store ship then the one fleet module for the matching fleet version...

    That, and (to me at least) the only high-end consoles worth having Fed side from the original birds are the Excelsior's transwarp computer and the separation consoles (Gal-X saucer and MVAE) - this is down-grading the sales...
    Detecting big-time "anti-old-school" bias here. NX? Lobi. TOS/TMP Connie? Super-promotion-box. (aka the two hardest ways to get ships) Excelsior & all 3 TNG "big hero" ships? C-Store. Please Equalize...

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  • shockwave85shockwave85 Member Posts: 1,040 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    2012 was like Shipocalypse on the Fed side. We got the Oddy pack, the Atrox, the Armitage, the Regent, the Vesta pack, the Chimera, and loads of lockbox ships and the Chel Grett of course. With so many options, it's natural things would be a little more scattered.

    I do still see a lot of Oddys. Tactical Escorts continue to be popular in ESTF, though the Patrol Escort stole a bit of its thunder. Excelsiors especially since the Fleet upgrade continue to be common. Armitage/Akira is everywhere.

    For unpopular, definitely the Galaxy variants (both the Retrofit and the Dread) since they've been completely overshadowed by the Odyssey and others. Most science ships aside from the Vesta are rare. Chimera had its brief popularity right after it came out, but being limited to lifers and 1000-day vets, and some of them having gone back to other ships, you don't see it a lot now. Not sure if you can say it's "unpopular", since it's probably pretty popular among those who have access to it, it's just that's not a lot of people.
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  • drudgydrudgy Member Posts: 367 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    I actually use the Vulcan ship on one of my Sci captains. It's not a half bad ship, it's just odd. :)

    Seems all the sci captains these days are flying Vesta's. Even the poor Nebula doesn't get that much play either.

    Oh well, I guess it really just boils down to FOTM. :)
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  • owenfelix69owenfelix69 Member Posts: 100 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    i am annoyed that then you are captain you can get the access to the defiant for free, but then you need to pay for the soa paulo in order to get access to the quad cannons, and then at admiral you need to buy the defient retro fit just to get the cloaking device.

    i think you should miss out the soa paulo, and the defient retrofit should come with the cannons and the cloak

    The same could be said about the galaxy and the voyager ship
  • jumpingjsjumpingjs Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    i am annoyed that then you are captain you can get the access to the defiant for free, but then you need to pay for the soa paulo in order to get access to the quad cannons, and then at admiral you need to buy the defient retro fit just to get the cloaking device.

    i think you should miss out the soa paulo, and the defient retrofit should come with the cannons and the cloak

    The same could be said about the galaxy and the voyager ship

    Then that means many of the other ships should be free. Your annoyance , to me, is hard to understand
    PLUS: Where would Cryptic get there money from?
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  • azurianstarazurianstar Member Posts: 6,985 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    The Galaxy has to be at the top of the useless T5 ships because the Odyssey does the same thing and is better at it. All the C-store science ships (D'Kyr, Nebula, and Intrpeid Retrofit) have all easily been outshined by the Vesta.

    Now the Defiant Retrofit really hasn't gotten to be useless due to the cloak and the popularity of the Fleet Defiant-R having a fifth tactical console, which allows it to do some serious damage.

    With KDF Ships, I don't see many of the alien ships these days, almost all I see are Klingon Vintage, with the exception of some flying the Garumba (use to see tons of Fleet Scourges, but not much anymore). People don't like the looks of the Orion ships and people aren't fond flying Gorn Sci ships since they are Sci ships. So I take these are the most useless of the C-store ships.


    The Regent, guess the OP doesn't run into many, but I found the Regent to be very popular and seen lots of them. But most players do use the Sovereign skin.
  • variant37variant37 Member Posts: 867 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    drudgy wrote: »
    Seems all the sci captains these days are flying Vesta's. Even the poor Nebula doesn't get that much play either.

    I love that the Nebula is so rare. My sci toon flies one (fleet version) and it's usually the only one I ever see in-game.
  • omegagloryomegaglory Member Posts: 41 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    Yeah, the Nebula and the D'kyr are probably the rarest T5 ships. Now that I think of it, having a Fleet Nebula would be pretty neat. I'm off to Ship Requisitions! ;)
  • cmdrskyfallercmdrskyfaller Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    variant37 wrote: »
    I love that the Nebula is so rare. My sci toon flies one (fleet version) and it's usually the only one I ever see in-game.

    whats your build if you dont mind me asking? i quit flying me beloved pancake after it became TRIBBLE post f2p. when you cant fight with science its rather silly to fly a ship that relies on it.. the nebula :(
  • xigbargxigbarg Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    #1 top most unseen ships.

    Escort:

    Aquarius Destroyer-

    Haven't seen one anywhere and you still pay money for it so I still count it as a C-store ship. Otherwise, I would say this.


    Multi-Vector Advanced Escort-

    I see the model a lot but I never see them going into multi-vector mode. So I assume its mostly the free or mirror versions that i'm looking at.


    Cruiser:
    Exploration Cruiser Retrofit-

    Sure you can see many of these flying around and its popular but like the multi-vector, I mostly see the free versions or even the dreadnought over it.


    Science:
    D'Kyr Science Vessel-

    I've only seen it twice for the entire time i've played.
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  • paragon92518paragon92518 Member Posts: 268
    edited February 2013
    Apparently an Ambassador C-Store b/c it's never coming, LOL....

    But on a serious note, probably a Vulcan ship. I never ever, EVER see one flying in-game. Lately, I have not seen many Nebula's either.
  • anazondaanazonda Member Posts: 8,399 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    Apparently an Ambassador C-Store b/c it's never coming, LOL....

    But on a serious note, probably a Vulcan ship. I never ever, EVER see one flying in-game. Lately, I have not seen many Nebula's either.

    Ironic... I've seen them more today, than ever before...

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  • nicha0nicha0 Member Posts: 1,456 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    Even if you did click on someone to see what ship they were in, that broken with S7, doesn't work 90% of the time anymore... no bio, ship, accolades, etc
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  • leviathan99#2867 leviathan99 Member Posts: 7,747 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    xigbarg wrote: »
    #1 top most unseen ships.

    Escort:

    Aquarius Destroyer-

    Haven't seen one anywhere and you still pay money for it so I still count it as a C-store ship. Otherwise, I would say this.


    Multi-Vector Advanced Escort-

    I see the model a lot but I never see them going into multi-vector mode. So I assume its mostly the free or mirror versions that i'm looking at.

    MVAM is REALLY good. It's just that the Akira is arguably BETTER.

    Also, you'd never see them going into Multi-Vector outside of combat. You might in a social zone but somebody doing that is blowing a ten minute cooldown.

    Additionally, there are good reasons to use the free or Mirror Prometheus with an MVAM console.
  • seanftdseanftd Member Posts: 319 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    jumpingjs wrote: »
    Then that means many of the other ships should be free. Your annoyance , to me, is hard to understand
    PLUS: Where would Cryptica get there money from?

    He's not saying to get somthing for nothing
    , just
    that its seems a waste of time to buy a skin and cannons and then buy a cloaking device, these should be combined into one item, same with the galaxy and intrepid sets, for what you get the are a bit over priced when you have to spend about 3000 zen on them.
  • centersolacecentersolace Member Posts: 11,178 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    The Vulcan ship is by far the least popular max tier Fed ship. Nebulas and the Galaxy variants are rather sparse, but have their enthusiasts. The Oberth Class and Peregrine are extremely rare as well (though that's probably due to the former being only a T1 and the latter a shuttle).

    As for the least popular ship period, that would have to be the Ferengi shuttle. I have never seen it ingame. Not once.
  • seanftdseanftd Member Posts: 319 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    I think im in agreement with most that the vulcan ship is by far least popular, its one ship i have yet to see someone use.
    Im currently using a galaxy retrofit for one of mymain admirals, i gt that back when you still could choose any current vice admiral ship once you hit the cap, so as i only have access to it with one guy i decided to keep it.
  • savnokasavnoka Member Posts: 176 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    As for the least popular ship period, that would have to be the Ferengi shuttle. I have never seen it ingame. Not once.

    I believe I am the only person in the entire game using the Ferengi Shuttle. The special shield makes Vault runs a breeze
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  • zerobangzerobang Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    Hah i used the Ferengi Shuttle ONCE in fleet internal Shuttle only PvP...

    that shield is absolutely useless in PvP, you can't run, you can't shoot back, you only live a few seconds longer, and then you die.

    maybe i should try it in the vault next. but then i dont have use for Romulan Marks anymore... maybe not.



    i love my MVAM, but i fly it with a SCI captain, i can understand if TAC captains slot out of it after a while for something else, but my SCI captain loves the ship, MVAM + Holo Ships = nice pet spam.

    And imho the MVAM is BETTER than the Wells / Moebius combination that adds the 2 ships from future and the past, because they do not stay around as long and the cooldown kills it.
    have also upgraded my MVAM to the Fleet Version

    i only wish my MVAM pets would look like the parts from MY ship when reconnecting, and could fly away without the ship making a full stop, you know, like the Odyssey?
    i guess some have slotted out of it because the visuals start to get annoying after a while (if you are obsessive about it).
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  • centersolacecentersolace Member Posts: 11,178 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    savnoka wrote: »
    I believe I am the only person in the entire game using the Ferengi Shuttle. The special shield makes Vault runs a breeze

    Heh, well I've never seen you in game now have I? :P

    But yeah, I've seen every single ship including the Oberth and Aeon at least once.
  • kamiyama317kamiyama317 Member Posts: 1,295 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    I agree with the D'Kyr as being the most unpopular ship. I haven't seen one since when they first released it. It was funny, back then everyone wanted one, even Tacs were flying them. People used to complain about seeing them in STF's all the time.

    Fast forward to today and I can't remember the last time I saw one.

    I think its the 2 tactical consoles. No matter what ship you fly, you need at least 3 tac consoles to hold your own DPS-wise.
  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    seanftd wrote: »
    I think im in agreement with most that the vulcan ship is by far least popular, its one ship i have yet to see someone use.
    Im currently using a galaxy retrofit for one of mymain admirals, i gt that back when you still could choose any current vice admiral ship once you hit the cap, so as i only have access to it with one guy i decided to keep it.
    One of my chars uses it in a pyro build. It's a sci/eng ship and not a bad one.... The shuttle launch thing is nice too.
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  • theanothernametheanothername Member Posts: 1,511 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    I never ever saw a venture dreadnough.
  • suavekssuaveks Member Posts: 1,736 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    I agree with the D'Kyr as being the most unpopular ship. I haven't seen one since when they first released it. It was funny, back then everyone wanted one, even Tacs were flying them. People used to complain about seeing them in STF's all the time.

    Fast forward to today and I can't remember the last time I saw one.

    I think its the 2 tactical consoles. No matter what ship you fly, you need at least 3 tac consoles to hold your own DPS-wise.
    D'Kyr was actually a really decent sci ship back in the old days. That is, assuming we're talking sci ships, and not "Escorts Online" stuff. I personally enjoyed it and didn't have any issues during STFs. The Lt.Cmdr. Engineering slot was really something unique, and allowed for interesting builds. With proper weapon layout it could also hold its own quite well in a fight.

    But sadly, with the introduction of Lock Box ships and Fleet Ships the D'Kyr has become practically obsolete, so no wonder little to no people use it. It costs a lot, isn't really "better" than free DSSV/RSV, and doesn't have a fleet variant. Now it's actually better to just purchase a Vesta bundle or something, instead of this. Sad thing, really.
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  • red01999red01999 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    avarseir wrote: »
    The regents may just be in Sovvy skin. Since many here are trek-nuts, so its given if they wanna be in the ship that looks like the one in the movies!

    I'm sure you don't go around clicking on every Sovvy to check if its actually regent right?

    There're many regents out there, i can assure you.

    He may not, but I compulsively check to see who's flying what, and before that dumb "shuttle is my primary ship" bug and the "profile suddenly lags out" bug that came about a couple of months ago, there was a surprisingly small number of Regents out there. I would be surprised if more than 5% of the Assault Cruisers of any stripe I ran into were Regents, although oddly enough I have seen one or two AC's in Regent skins (I think, anyway - that is possible, isn't it, if you've bought the Regent?).
  • red01999red01999 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    xigbarg wrote: »
    Escort:

    Aquarius Destroyer-

    Haven't seen one anywhere and you still pay money for it so I still count it as a C-store ship. Otherwise, I would say this.


    To be fair, there is a fleet mark-only version available which is, technically, free (although any are technically free with 4 FSMs).

    However, considering I've heard it very repeatedly referred to as basically being a Bird of Prey with all the disadvantages and almost none of the advantages, plus the fact it was designed to be a little helper/flying coffin for the Odyssey in the first place, I doubt we'll ever see many of either version around. Among other things, it's just too frail to justify the price, and if you need it for RP reasons you might as well get the fleet mark version.
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