Enterprise-J and V'Ger in STO?

ricosakara · February 2013

Now that we got all the Enterprises of the series, You think we'll ever see the Enterprise N.C.C.-1701-J in game someday?

I personally think it would be nice to feature the titanic-size ship as a "Super Dreadnought," "Titan," or "Super Titan," like they class their ships in the old PSOne Colony Wars series.

Although personally, if they were to feature the EJ, it would be HUGE - as big as a starbase in game or the Vault in the space map of the mission.
Heck, the ships would be it's own moving starbase in and of itself, IMO.

Also, since the borg have those V'Ger type command ships, you think we could get the original V'Ger to be featured in the game as well someday? I heard from another thread that if V'Ger were feature, it should have it's own sector block for the cloud layers.

What do you think? You think we'll see these two titans?

bohiap · February 2013

AFAIK CBS vetoed Enterprise-J. If that's true, then no Enterprise-J.

I'm thinking that the borg command ships are all we're going to get for V'ger. Cryptic seems to be moving the story forward- when they move the story. If they do reach back in time, I doubt it will be from one of the two least popular TOS films.

keshmarch · February 2013

Personally, I'd like to see Enterprises G, H, and I before we see J.

And I haven't even seen F in the game at all.

smokeybacon90 · February 2013

Of all the ships, the presence of the Ent J would be the hardest to justify. It is not from the same time period as the Wells class.

wilusa · February 2013

if you do the sector patrol in the new romulus zone the ent-f randomly appears to help you.

jstewart55 · February 2013

wilusa wrote: »

if you do the sector patrol in the new romulus zone the ent-f randomly appears to help you.

So cool when that happens.

anazonda · February 2013

Officially CBS nixed them both...

Unofficially STO can't handle large objects.

markhawkman · February 2013

keshmarch wrote: »

Personally, I'd like to see Enterprises G, H, and I before we see J.

And I haven't even seen F in the game at all.

Play the last episode of the Dominion FEs...

The Unimatrix vessels play a sound effect lifted from V'Ger when they warp into the map.

centersolace · February 2013

Good god, I hope not.

collegepark2151 · February 2013

Might be interestng to fly a moving starbase but as said before it would break the game.

twg042370 · February 2013

I believe V'ger became a space god so it and similarities to the Unimatrix are coincidental.

psycoticvulcan · February 2013

Playable? Definitely not.

As NPCs? I don't see why not. They would be huge, but we already have those ginormous Borg Command Ships.

starkaos · February 2013

kalecto wrote: »

[10:54] [REDALERT] <Dev> Oaks@dstahl: Ent J is not going to happen according to CBS

Enterprise J is definitely out due to size, but smaller Enterprise H that looks similar to Enterprise J is possible. V'Ger has been mentioned by dstahl before that he would like to see it, but might be one of those might see it in a few years thing.

admgreer · February 2013

If you google V'ger images, the ship does look very much like the Borg Unimatrix Captial ships. Here is a Little V'ger back Story, The Race of AI that created it are known as "The Body Electric" They believe carbon base life is like how we view bacterial life, One led to the other but AI is the only "True life", and Carbon based life forms are just the precursor to "True life" The goal of the Body electric is to create a mathmatical symbol (like an infinity symbol) in the heavens by rearranging super clusters of Galaxys into a shape that could be seen from anywhere in the universe. So for the remaining existance of the universe all life would be able to see it and know that "True life", powerful life that can move Galaxies existed. So they bascialy wanted to spray paint a "V'ger was here message on the cosmos. So they sent a another V'ger type ship to the center of our Galaxy and started opening worm holes and sucking in Stars and solar systems and flinging them into the super massive black hole at the center of our galaxy. This goal was to increase the size and mass of our black hole and then open worm hole and connect it to the Andromeda galaxy to combine the 2 black holes. Part of it's uber galatic art project. Lucky for us Travler Wesley and Dr. Noonian Singh (he wasent dead, he pulled an Ira Graves and uploaded himself into a very nice andriod body) Were able to gather together other sentiant AI's from our galaxy and convince it to change its plans. For more to the story ready Cold equations book 1 and 3, skip book 2 its just about the Breen trying to take over the Gorn.

psycoticvulcan · February 2013

admgreer wrote: »

If you google V'ger images, the ship does look very much like the Borg Unimatrix Captial ships. Here is a Little V'ger back Story, The Race of AI that created it are known as "The Body Electric" They believe carbon base life is like how we view bacterial life, One led to the other but AI is the only "True life", and Carbon based life forms are just the precursor to "True life" The goal of the Body electric is to create a mathmatical symbol (like an infinity symbol) in the heavens by rearranging super clusters of Galaxys into a shape that could be seen from anywhere in the universe. So for the remaining existance of the universe all life would be able to see it and know that "True life", powerful life that can move Galaxies existed. So they bascialy wanted to spray paint a "V'ger was here message on the cosmos. So they sent a another V'ger type ship to the center of our Galaxy and started opening worm holes and sucking in Stars and solar systems and flinging them into the super massive black hole at the center of our galaxy. This goal was to increase the size and mass of our black hole and then open worm hole and connect it to the Andromeda galaxy to combine the 2 black holes. Part of it's uber galatic art project. Lucky for us Travler Wesley and Dr. Noonian Singh (he wasent dead, he pulled an Ira Graves and uploaded himself into a very nice andriod body) Were able to gather together other sentiant AI's from our galaxy and convince it to change its plans. For more to the story ready Cold equations book 1 and 3, skip book 2 its just about the Breen trying to take over the Gorn.

As interesting (and confusing) as that sounds, the novels aren't considered canon.

Then again, neither is STO.

centersolace · February 2013

starkaos wrote: »

Enterprise J is definitely out due to size, but smaller Enterprise H that looks similar to Enterprise J is possible. V'Ger has been mentioned by dstahl before that he would like to see it, but might be one of those might see it in a few years thing.

I have no idea what we would use V'Ger for.

neoakiraii · February 2013

centersolace wrote: »

I have no idea what we would use V'Ger for.

Naked probe Robot bridge officer.

maxvitor · February 2013

The way things are scaled in this game V'ger would be the size of several planets parked end to end to keep it to scale with our ships, so the Borg Command ships are as close as we will likely get. The J is just too big and the H is almost as big. CBS has nixed the J so we won't being getting that, but that is just CBS's J. Our Enterprise F is a unique design made by Cryptic, not part of Star Trek cannon so any ships after F could also be Cryptic designs and bear no resemblance to any that may have been intended for one of the series. I don't see any more Enterprises being likely, maybe different variants, different ship class names etc., but the Odyssey is a brand new design that should last for fifty to a hundred years and any new ship couldn't be christened Enterprise as long as the current one exists.

lonnehart · February 2013

keshmarch wrote: »

And I haven't even seen F in the game at all.

I have. It saved my nacelles during a mission in the Cardassian story arc (because those Jem Hadar carriers are murder).

artan42 · February 2013

The Unimatrix Command ship is around 12,000 metres compared with a 3,000 metre Tac Cube.
V'Ger is 78.000 metres long.
The command ships look like the front half of V'Ger and mirrored.

A V'Ger system in the Gamma Orionis sector Block would be great, with the 'planet' at the centre been the ship, and the 'system' been the purple cloud.
Cryptic can make some really pretty backgrounds like fluidic space.

As for the Enterprise J, it has a length of what 2000 metres, the Atrox is about 1600 metres. Hell the Tarantula Class is larger than the J at 2070 metres.

cjtombraider · February 2013

collegepark2151 wrote: »

Might be interestng to fly a moving starbase but as said before it would break the game.

I recall reading that the Enterprise-J is too large and would "break" the game. So here is my question...just how big is the Enterprise-J that it would break the game? Bigger then a Borg Cube? Bigger then the Borg Command Vessels? Bigger then Earth Spacedock? And here is another question I have; how can the physical size of a movable vessel in the game cause it to "break?"

artan42 · February 2013

scimitar2 wrote: »

Just how big is the Enterprise-J that it would break the game? Bigger then a Borg Cube? Bigger then the Borg Command Vessels? Bigger then Earth Spacedock? And here is another question I have; how can the physical size of a movable vessel in the game cause it to "break?"

See My post just above yours.

collegepark2151 · February 2013

http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/USS_Enterprise_(NCC-1701-J)

The J is speculated to be about 2 miles long, which would be closer to 4000 meters.

Edit: Fixed broken link.

markhawkman · February 2013

artan42 wrote: »

The Unimatrix Command ship is around 12,000 metres compared with a 3,000 metre Tac Cube.
V'Ger is 78.000 metres long.
The command ships look like the front half of V'Ger and mirrored.

A V'Ger system in the Gamma Orionis sector Block would be great, with the 'planet' at the centre been the ship, and the 'system' been the purple cloud.
Cryptic can make some really pretty backgrounds like fluidic space.

As for the Enterprise J, it has a length of what 2000 metres, the Atrox is about 1600 metres. Hell the Tarantula Class is larger than the J at 2070 metres.

Actually.... Drexler said: "Two miles sounds about right to me"

this would be more like 3.2km.

darkenzedd · February 2013

Not sure why cryptic are fond of bringing out the CBS excuse card, I suppose it's the "easy" way out for them I guess. Much like when they originally brought it out to cover up them wanting to charge $150 for a lockbox ship instead of putting it into the cstore, yet here we are with space full of non faction ships....

The Ent J could never be as the game is not setup for such a huge ship. It makes esd look small lol

justleroy · February 2013

anazonda wrote: »

Unofficially STO can't handle large objects.

All things considered, that's funny.

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hanover · February 2013

apocalypse2001 wrote: »

exactly. Thank you.
Its not a time ship, so it's illogical for it to appear in the 25th century.

Wouldn't be too far outside this games history to have your character travel forward to the time of the J for some reason, though.

psycoticvulcan · February 2013

hanover2 wrote: »

Wouldn't be too far outside this games history to have your character travel forward to the time of the J for some reason, though.

That would be cool ... traveling into the 26th century to help the Federation fight off the Sphere Builders. The Enterprise-J could be similar to the Borg Command Ship in size and strength, only fighting on our side for a change.

kamiyama317 · February 2013

There should only be one V'Ger in the game, and I should have it. It should also give me Dev powers that let me delete random objects from the game, like ESD or other player's starships.

Don't you see? It's completely fair. The complete fairness should be obvious to everyone.

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Enterprise-J and V'Ger in STO?

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