ok, putting PR to the side the game is good in my humble opinion, but could be much better.
I hope is not more grinding and similar repetitive missions, New Romulus was good just to many simple mini games. The simple scan and pick up or shoot to kill is ok as long as there is variety.
At the moment it is set in the Star Trek universe but has not got Star Trek spirit but getting there slowly.
I refer you to the answer I gave earlier with regard to lieing.
And I'll refer you to this post, containing multiple quotes from Stahl in relationship to what S7 would be (prior to the fixes made to undo cryptic's stupidity).
There are a few reasons why I don't play STO. There are too many bugs in this game that go unfixed for far too long, there is no way to turn off the local boxes from dropping for me, and everything at max level is just a grind. I stick around the forums hoping something will change but it never does. I must be the only Trek fan that won't throw money at Cryptic for nothing in return.
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There are a few reasons why I don't play STO. There are too many bugs in this game that go unfixed for far too long, there is no way to turn off the local boxes from dropping for me, and everything at max level is just a grind. I stick around the forums hoping something will change but it never does. I must be the only Trek fan that won't throw money at Cryptic for nothing in return.
I still play but I pretty much have to accept that I will get nothing more for a fed diet as a KDF player but they pretty much give me everything for free. I'm just not suppossed to expect much out of them because it is free lol.
The only thing that I find objectional are some of the purile and immature whining that we see from the basement nerds on some threads and in particular this one. Fortunately the DEVs have thick skins and are able to ignore the "push button get bacon" brigade and cater for the wider less obnoxious majority of the fans out there.
Keep up the great work Brandon, Jeremy, Dan and the rest of you, congratulations on your 3rd year anniversary, looking forward to the next 3 years
Highlighted in red incase you miss it. Me thinks you should take heed of your own words before you tell others no?;)
Straight from the mouth of one of the leaders of the CDF - "I tell you what, Haven't spent any money either - I'm a lousy freeloader" - Jonsills 17/12/2014
@Branflakes ~ Mentioned in part of this interview was reviewing problems that have existed since the launch of the game, right? Any chance of us actually seeing the Benzite Bridge Officer available to us at some point?
Once again mate you're struggling to understand the difference between a generalisation and a specific insult. We know who the Devs are, we know their names, we know what they are doing roughly and they are being insulted, perhaps not by name, although sometimes we see that too, but certainly as a small collective group.
Unless you are saying that the type of people I generalised over do not exist in this world then you must also note that I singled out nobody in particular, I mentioned that I had seen it in this thread and in others, it is up to you to decide whom I was implicating.
I am amused that you keep trying to turn this around, there is simply no excuse for rudness, it is not the way I was raised and it should not be the way others are raised. Unfortunately it is prominent in all aspects of the society we live in around the world today and the younger generation, the push button collect bacon brigade, are the most intolerant in general, not all, but generally speaking.
Are you for real? An insult is an insult.
I too am amused that you are trying to "justify" being rude, but then say your not being rude and "it's not the way I was raised".
You really don't get it do you, what you said. Go back and read again what you have posted.
Straight from the mouth of one of the leaders of the CDF - "I tell you what, Haven't spent any money either - I'm a lousy freeloader" - Jonsills 17/12/2014
I can see I am wasting my time here lol :rolleyes:
Yep, you are:)
3-0...;)
Straight from the mouth of one of the leaders of the CDF - "I tell you what, Haven't spent any money either - I'm a lousy freeloader" - Jonsills 17/12/2014
You're right with much of what you say, the issue I have is with your use of the word "lie". This is a deliberate falsification of the truth for whatever reason. I think that far more often these guys and gals are firefighting, they have tough deadlines and mistakes are made.
My original post much like your "nerds in a basement" generalization I assert the generally well known fact in the software sector that most companies will inflate (lie about) the number of users for marketing purposes, indeed in all honestly this is a business practice that has been going on for centuries. That is why I don't believe them.
With regards to Stahl's now infamous debacle over end-mission dilithium in STF's as I said it was either a lie, deception or misinformation. Either way it was wrong.
We pay their salaries indirectly but the people who pay them directly are the ones calling the shots. If they hear that, for example S7 has not been released, there would be hell to pay and people's heads may roll. On the other hand if the Devs release S7 in the best state they can given the time constraints it is us that start crying, but they know we won't leave and as long as they make efforts to put right the issues people have, all will be well: ergo S7 launches, paymasters are happy, devs can clean up the mess in the following few days which they did.
The problem here is that it was handled so poorly that it created a lasting negative impression of both the team and the company one which I have expressed to those interested in both Neverwinter and STO. Simple put reputation is what gives a good business longevity (as long as the demand is there).
The other issue is that if PWE/PW have unrealistic timeframes this must be communicated by the dev team if they truly believe in this project beyond the profit margin and if they truly believe in their PR spiel about making the best Star Trek game ever and treating the fans right then they should be protecting the brand and future long term profit by delivering a professional service not releasing a shambles 2 months too early because Big Brother upstairs has no clue about the realities of this specific market and user base.
It's very easy to be an armchair critic, try stepping into their shoes and see how difficult it is to juggle the demands of their paymasters, the players and their own personal lives.
This is the issue I have with the, as a poster said above, virulent posts that are appearing here. Nothing that has happened has been game breaking with the exception of yesterday's technical connection problem, there was lots to learn about and explore whilst the devs fine tuned the release. The problem is a severe lack of understanding and tolerance from what I suspect are fairly young contributors.
Actually prior to Season 7 ground STF's were broken for an entire week as were the introductory mission and a whole load of other missions. This took them a whole week to fix.
With regards to the lack of tolerance, whilst I don't condone threats or forum rage, it does give me a good indication of how a number of people have become unhappy with aspects of the game and the developers perceived lack of interest in pushing the game beyond what it currently is which is a mess of systems and heap of bugs and at it's core a system of relentless revenue acquisition through ships and lockboxes. Though these less mature users may not have the right words or express themselves in a polite manner I understand and empathize with the underlying frustration.
i'll tell ua the state of the game, its still broken after yesterdays disaster. though i played it for a good few hours it suddenly went capluey. so hope yall get it worked out soon.
I'm surprised they keep posting these as at least 50% of what they say never ends up happening. Or if it does, its some bastardized version of the original idea.
If you were a Federation player, it was a great year. If your a KDF player, well, we pretty much lost everything that was unique to the KDF side, given to whiney Fed players who had to have it all.
But hey, we got the Bortasq! We should be thankful we got something anyways..XD
I wonder if they'll fix the pop-up decloaking bug this year. That'd be something useful for the Klingons for a change.
"Critics who say that the optimistic utopia Star Trek depicted is now outmoded forget the cultural context that gave birth to it: Star Trek was not a manifestation of optimism when optimism was easy. Star Trek declared a hope for a future that nobody stuck in the present could believe in. For all our struggles today, we haven’t outgrown the need for stories like Star Trek. We need tales of optimism, of heroes, of courage and goodness now as much as we’ve ever needed them." -Thomas Marrone
So really....STO had major issues yesterday that affected millions due to non existent backup plan. Any network specialist can see where to start with the problem by looking at least the tracert logs....Anyway no use complaining about it because it won't do any good..Anyway to the point though...Why would you guys run tests and effectively crash it for everyone else instead of looking at your logs and other useful tools that most Network specialist would use. It baffles me to know that i now can't login due to this error"Couldnt get map names from map manager" Really??? :eek: This is really getting old fast. Also i might add this isnt the first time this exact problem has presented itself with the launcher. This at least the 3rd time so if it has happened before..Why wasn't the tests done the first and second time to resolve the issue so it doesnt happen and 3rd and more times....Just simple questions that a tech savvy person is asking because...the answers we are getting are not adding up. At this point pretty disappointed that i am getting plain jane answers in hope of shutting me up so i dont complain. And again as many others have stated the people that are affected should be compensated in someway for this issue. Also does not do well for the Anniversary event either unless it is a marketing stunt :eek:
If they make something idiot proof. They will come out with better idiots
Well I for one have no major complaints about the state of the game, sure there are some annoying things such as bugs and server disconnects etc but u get that on most games , there is no such thing as a perfect game. I am happy overall with the way STO is and look forward to it getting better over the next year and beyond.
I am also happy with Star Trek Online, Cryptic, and even Perfect World Entertainment.
Sure, they have issues they struggle with. We get disconnected sometimes. I want my Borg Cutting Beam to show up. And I want my t5 ship to not have useless Boff station slots. And there should be a dozen terradome-like missions that give unique rewards, but there's just the one with no cool loot. KDF is OP in PvP but have so much less content than Fed. Yes, there are issues. All the little 'undesirable' aspects affect gameplay in STO.
But the dev team listens, and they fix it all eventually. And overall, this has evolved into one of the best games of all time. Especially related to our beloved Star Trek. And really, they just love to surprise us with the newer content, which is awesome more often than not.
Keep the game fixes and new content flowing, dev team. You're alright in my book.
The sad part is that in this set-up, "meh" would get the KDF further ignored as without the "numbers" .... they move on.
In reality, the only thing that truly helps the KDF cause are those pointy-eared Romulan-wannabee players as Cryptic can't really launch a third faction until the second faction is "complete."
The real question is what in the eyes of Cryptic is considered "complete" ?
But going back to "meh" ... That's honestly about how I feel about KDF development as I've gotten tired of waiting for them to get around to it.
I love the KDF faction ... but Cryptic's development of it is something else entirely.
DStahl's responses about our faction definitely left me feeling evening more meh as I feel like we are looked at as foolish children who will know no better.
I've gotten to where I skip over his responses to our faction as I don't really care about his responses any more.
When I see true development in game on the KDF front, then I'll perk up and pay attention again.
Well "meh" certainly has more for the Devs to think on than just yelling at them, which has not worked at all for the KDF.
SO start any complaint with "meh" and a less howlering sort of reasons to why one is "meh" on a subject.
Well "meh" certainly has more for the Devs to think on than just yelling at them, which has not worked at all for the KDF.
SO start any complaint with "meh" and a less howlering sort of reasons to why one is "meh" on a subject.
Basically I too am just feeling "meh" as well.
Never stop, never stop fighting till the fight is done. ~Elliot Ness
He may have just been a human but there is wisdom in those words.
Jack Emmert: "Starfleet and Klingon. ... So two factions, full PvE content." Al Rivera hates Klingons Star Trek Online: Agents of Jack Emmert All cloaks should be canon.
Guys, I hate to break it to you but this launcher issue has been ongoing since May 2012, it has something to do with Ip blocking. You might need to try a hotspot shield to get the launcher up then patch and login. After that once you are in it can be disabled. As forthe anniversary event avent missed one yet I guess it will end my 2 month hiatus from the game.
You people who complain...
Complaints about content, ships, free, ships, C-store prices and at the devs.
FREE!
Do you people (directed to those that whine and complain) that play this get alot of stuff that is worth alot, for free in your life?
This is a free game.
As such you choose to play the content that the devs make_available_for_you.
The problem here, no one is sitting and doing this game for free for You.
Everyone need to gets paid.
And as such, they also need content that are priced.
You choose if you want to buy that "stuff".
IF You choose to do so, keep in mind that you then are actively contributing to the game.
That will help the devs to create more "stuff" to the STO Universe.
You are ungrateful.
And you do not show any apreciation at all for this game.
Do you play it so you can behave like this?
Or do you play it because it is fun and that you like Star Trek?
If it is the latter, show some apreciation for what you are getting, for free.
If it is the first mentioned, perhaps you really need to re-think why you are here...
This game is not 'perfect', most of us who have played it for a while know this.
But tell me, because i certinly dont know any perfect MMO out t here, do you?
There are MMO's out there that perhaps get patched 1 time p month, or less, and get updated content once every 6 months, or more.
Every MMO has problems, MMO's are huge to keep in order and make to work.
So actualy, keeping in mind that this game is free, i think the devs are doing a more than great job!
All that lovely whining from you has just gone to waste...:)
If you're happy with the game, why not just play it and leave the forums alone if all the "whining" bothers you so much?
Your post is just as useful as any other "whine" thread;)
Straight from the mouth of one of the leaders of the CDF - "I tell you what, Haven't spent any money either - I'm a lousy freeloader" - Jonsills 17/12/2014
State of the game. That's simple. IN TROUBLE. S7 is a disaster, while some of the new items are nice the rep systems is TRIBBLE, the need for dilithium is up and thus as a good friend predicted zen price is down in exchange, THoilian Red Alert is buggy, Besides from the mirror ships (Note Mirror Carrier is awesome) KDF ignored, No Romulan playable side. Borg Crit is ridiculous. KDF doesn't get Zen discount for fleet ships if you have zen version of ship, AND you lost sunscribers due to S7 so defiantly not good. My suggestions are as follows.
1: Fix actual bugs in game rather than mess with what's currently working.
2: Get rid of Fed character requirement on KDF you will see more KDF players that way.
3: Make a playable Romulan side, you have the perfect enviroment for arich campaing for the Rommies. Heck you can add the choice on which Rommie faction to support, Tal Shiar or theNRommi Republic. And devs just think about it. Zen Scimitar, how many would want such a ship. And remeber the alpha quadrant is a trinity Fed, KDF, and Rommie. You need all 3 playable to really succeed. A friend of mine you love to fly the Romulan D'Deridex.
Actualy stating facts 'once' is not whining.
Stating something multiple times about same thing IS whining.
Does that work, really?
"Oh he is noob, he doesn't know anything, we dont listen to them"
I'm not sure what is more laughable, the whining or that kind of attitude.
New or not, what i said is based on facts.
Lol, I love how when a "defender" of the game whines, it's not whining, but when someone is not happy and posts about it, it is.
Granted some posts go other the top (done a few myself), however to say that people who don't like various aspects of the game and post why are whiners, well it joins the list of things the defenders always bring out in their posts.
1. It's free, so don't have any right to diss the game.
2. It's a small team.
3. You don't have to pay a penny to play.
4. At least the Devs talk to us.
5. All games have grind.
6. I'm sick of people whining.
What's worse about your particular "whine" is that it was ranty too;).
Check out the various definitions of whine. The one I like best is - To complain or protest in a childish fashion, but their are various ones and I think most people who post whine in some shape or fashion or have done.
I'm not sure what is more laughable, you rushing onto the forums to defend Cryptic or that you cannot see that your original post was a whine...;) See what I did there m8...
Straight from the mouth of one of the leaders of the CDF - "I tell you what, Haven't spent any money either - I'm a lousy freeloader" - Jonsills 17/12/2014
Lol, I love how when a "defender" of the game whines, it's not whining, but when someone is not happy and posts about it, it is.
Granted some posts go other the top (done a few myself), however to say that people who don't like various aspects of the game and post why are whiners, well it joins the list of things the defenders always bring out in their posts.
1. It's free, so don't have any right to diss the game.
2. It's a small team.
3. You don't have to pay a penny to play.
4. At least the Devs talk to us.
5. All games have grind.
6. I'm sick of people whining.
What's worse about your particular "whine" is that it was ranty too;).
Check out the various definitions of whine. The one I like best is - To complain or protest in a childish fashion, but their are various ones and I think most people who post whine in some shape or fashion or have done.
I'm not sure what is more laughable, you rushing onto the forums to defend Cryptic or that you cannot see that your original post was a whine...;) See what I did there m8...
Actualy i'm not your 'm8', i dont even know you so that is impossible.
1. Ofcourse you can diss the game as much as you want, and so far that has brought you what?
2. What team? Dev team?
3. You dont.
4 They do, they probably do that at other MMO's also.
5. Yup.
6. Nope, i'm not, just dont understand how ungrateful people can be, especially when something is for free.
Yes that is what "whine" usually means, nice of you that you needed to look it up.
I could have said that "you" i'm using that word losely here, are spoilt pampered brats and ungrateful ones on that.
What is laughable is that you take fact as a whine and then whine about it.
So, how much do you get for free in your life?
You computer?
House/Apartment?
Car?
MS Windows?
Food every day?
Well if "you" are a kid, the obvious answer is yes for most of the Q's there.
And if you do get something, your mom and dad has probably taught you how to say "thank you" for what you get...
And, you are a grown up, you should still remember it.
And no, i am not running in here and trying to protect Cryptic.
They dont need me for that, their system of use is alot better, they just ignore the whiners.
I like the game, i know it is not perfect (find an mmo that is), but i like it and i play it.
I also use the forums to read the news, tips and tricks and to get some helpful hints on game play.
You give courage to your convictions, i'll give you that, but you have now started to sound a bit "preachy".
Still no idea why you feel the need to post about people "whining". It seems to be effecting you in a big way, with all the long "not whiney" posts you are doing, but I sill don't see the harm it's doing if people are posting their dislike.
My response to you at first was about you "complaining" about people "complaining" and I just found it ironic.
You seem to be sticking to the fact that you are not whining, but every post you do, sounds like a whine and a rant, with a little bit of holier than thou chucked in on the side.
If your happy with the game, great. Come on and post how much you love it and how great Cryptic is, but remember, forum dwellers will come on and pick holes or disagree. The point is not tell do what you have done and call their posts whines.
Anyway, bed now. I will respond to your "not whine" response tomorrow.
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Straight from the mouth of one of the leaders of the CDF - "I tell you what, Haven't spent any money either - I'm a lousy freeloader" - Jonsills 17/12/2014
You give courage to your convictions, i'll give you that, but you have now started to sound a bit "preachy".
Still no idea why you feel the need to post about people "whining". It seems to be effecting you in a big way, with all the long "not whiney" posts you are doing, but I sill don't see the harm it's doing if people are posting their dislike.
My response to you at first was about you "complaining" about people "complaining" and I just found it ironic.
You seem to be sticking to the fact that you are not whining, but every post you do, sounds like a whine and a rant, with a little bit of holier than thou chucked in on the side.
If your happy with the game, great. Come on and post how much you love it and how great Cryptic is, but remember, forum dwellers will come on and pick holes or disagree. The point is not tell do what you have done and call their posts whines.
Anyway, bed now. I will respond to your "not whine" response tomorrow.
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Preachy?
Not the least, i am just sure in my conviction that 'you' should not be ungrateful for things you get.
I was not complaining at all.
More or less i was trying to convince people that "whining" / "complaining" constantly wont help, and as this game is free to play, i see it as being ungrateful in comparison of what they already is getting.
It's like taking the kids with you shopping.
They see something they want, you say no, not this time, and they continue to want it, and as kids, they whine when they dont get what they want.
So in this, you would say that the parent is just as whiney as the kids?
And this is what i see in many of the posts.
People acting like children because they are not getting what they want.
"Fix that" Give us this" "if not i' wont play anymore" "Craptic" "You broke something again!"
And this, i dont know where you found this
Originally Posted by thowas View Post
/Rant not whine stuff.
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there is that. And this game (bugs and all) is way better then BSGO.
and others too numerous to name...
I hope is not more grinding and similar repetitive missions, New Romulus was good just to many simple mini games. The simple scan and pick up or shoot to kill is ok as long as there is variety.
At the moment it is set in the Star Trek universe but has not got Star Trek spirit but getting there slowly.
When it's an appropriate descriptor to use, it's entirely accurate. Or did you forget Stahl's magical mystery tour around the S7 STF-gate debacle?
And I'll refer you to this post, containing multiple quotes from Stahl in relationship to what S7 would be (prior to the fixes made to undo cryptic's stupidity).
Please explain how he's not lying.
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I still play but I pretty much have to accept that I will get nothing more for a fed diet as a KDF player but they pretty much give me everything for free. I'm just not suppossed to expect much out of them because it is free lol.
Highlighted in red incase you miss it. Me thinks you should take heed of your own words before you tell others no?;)
Edit: Actually TBH I have graduated to upstairs!
Are you for real? An insult is an insult.
I too am amused that you are trying to "justify" being rude, but then say your not being rude and "it's not the way I was raised".
You really don't get it do you, what you said. Go back and read again what you have posted.
Yep, you are:)
3-0...;)
My original post much like your "nerds in a basement" generalization I assert the generally well known fact in the software sector that most companies will inflate (lie about) the number of users for marketing purposes, indeed in all honestly this is a business practice that has been going on for centuries. That is why I don't believe them.
With regards to Stahl's now infamous debacle over end-mission dilithium in STF's as I said it was either a lie, deception or misinformation. Either way it was wrong.
The problem here is that it was handled so poorly that it created a lasting negative impression of both the team and the company one which I have expressed to those interested in both Neverwinter and STO. Simple put reputation is what gives a good business longevity (as long as the demand is there).
The other issue is that if PWE/PW have unrealistic timeframes this must be communicated by the dev team if they truly believe in this project beyond the profit margin and if they truly believe in their PR spiel about making the best Star Trek game ever and treating the fans right then they should be protecting the brand and future long term profit by delivering a professional service not releasing a shambles 2 months too early because Big Brother upstairs has no clue about the realities of this specific market and user base.
Actually prior to Season 7 ground STF's were broken for an entire week as were the introductory mission and a whole load of other missions. This took them a whole week to fix.
With regards to the lack of tolerance, whilst I don't condone threats or forum rage, it does give me a good indication of how a number of people have become unhappy with aspects of the game and the developers perceived lack of interest in pushing the game beyond what it currently is which is a mess of systems and heap of bugs and at it's core a system of relentless revenue acquisition through ships and lockboxes. Though these less mature users may not have the right words or express themselves in a polite manner I understand and empathize with the underlying frustration.
#2311#2700#2316#2500
If you were a Federation player, it was a great year. If your a KDF player, well, we pretty much lost everything that was unique to the KDF side, given to whiney Fed players who had to have it all.
But hey, we got the Bortasq! We should be thankful we got something anyways..XD
I wonder if they'll fix the pop-up decloaking bug this year. That'd be something useful for the Klingons for a change.
Did you forget? That's not a bug - it's "working as intended".
"Critics who say that the optimistic utopia Star Trek depicted is now outmoded forget the cultural context that gave birth to it: Star Trek was not a manifestation of optimism when optimism was easy. Star Trek declared a hope for a future that nobody stuck in the present could believe in. For all our struggles today, we haven’t outgrown the need for stories like Star Trek. We need tales of optimism, of heroes, of courage and goodness now as much as we’ve ever needed them."
-Thomas Marrone
Sure, they have issues they struggle with. We get disconnected sometimes. I want my Borg Cutting Beam to show up. And I want my t5 ship to not have useless Boff station slots. And there should be a dozen terradome-like missions that give unique rewards, but there's just the one with no cool loot. KDF is OP in PvP but have so much less content than Fed. Yes, there are issues. All the little 'undesirable' aspects affect gameplay in STO.
But the dev team listens, and they fix it all eventually. And overall, this has evolved into one of the best games of all time. Especially related to our beloved Star Trek. And really, they just love to surprise us with the newer content, which is awesome more often than not.
Keep the game fixes and new content flowing, dev team. You're alright in my book.
Well "meh" certainly has more for the Devs to think on than just yelling at them, which has not worked at all for the KDF.
SO start any complaint with "meh" and a less howlering sort of reasons to why one is "meh" on a subject.
Basically I too am just feeling "meh" as well.
R.I.P
Never stop, never stop fighting till the fight is done. ~Elliot Ness
He may have just been a human but there is wisdom in those words.
Al Rivera hates Klingons
Star Trek Online: Agents of Jack Emmert
All cloaks should be canon.
You people who complain...
Complaints about content, ships, free, ships, C-store prices and at the devs.
FREE!
Do you people (directed to those that whine and complain) that play this get alot of stuff that is worth alot, for free in your life?
This is a free game.
As such you choose to play the content that the devs make_available_for_you.
The problem here, no one is sitting and doing this game for free for You.
Everyone need to gets paid.
And as such, they also need content that are priced.
You choose if you want to buy that "stuff".
IF You choose to do so, keep in mind that you then are actively contributing to the game.
That will help the devs to create more "stuff" to the STO Universe.
You are ungrateful.
And you do not show any apreciation at all for this game.
Do you play it so you can behave like this?
Or do you play it because it is fun and that you like Star Trek?
If it is the latter, show some apreciation for what you are getting, for free.
If it is the first mentioned, perhaps you really need to re-think why you are here...
This game is not 'perfect', most of us who have played it for a while know this.
But tell me, because i certinly dont know any perfect MMO out t here, do you?
There are MMO's out there that perhaps get patched 1 time p month, or less, and get updated content once every 6 months, or more.
Every MMO has problems, MMO's are huge to keep in order and make to work.
So actualy, keeping in mind that this game is free, i think the devs are doing a more than great job!
Stopped right there as the irony was too much.
New to the forums I see.
All that lovely whining from you has just gone to waste...:)
If you're happy with the game, why not just play it and leave the forums alone if all the "whining" bothers you so much?
Your post is just as useful as any other "whine" thread;)
1: Fix actual bugs in game rather than mess with what's currently working.
2: Get rid of Fed character requirement on KDF you will see more KDF players that way.
3: Make a playable Romulan side, you have the perfect enviroment for arich campaing for the Rommies. Heck you can add the choice on which Rommie faction to support, Tal Shiar or theNRommi Republic. And devs just think about it. Zen Scimitar, how many would want such a ship. And remeber the alpha quadrant is a trinity Fed, KDF, and Rommie. You need all 3 playable to really succeed. A friend of mine you love to fly the Romulan D'Deridex.
Actualy stating facts 'once' is not whining.
Stating something multiple times about same thing IS whining.
Does that work, really?
"Oh he is noob, he doesn't know anything, we dont listen to them"
I'm not sure what is more laughable, the whining or that kind of attitude.
New or not, what i said is based on facts.
Lol, I love how when a "defender" of the game whines, it's not whining, but when someone is not happy and posts about it, it is.
Granted some posts go other the top (done a few myself), however to say that people who don't like various aspects of the game and post why are whiners, well it joins the list of things the defenders always bring out in their posts.
1. It's free, so don't have any right to diss the game.
2. It's a small team.
3. You don't have to pay a penny to play.
4. At least the Devs talk to us.
5. All games have grind.
6. I'm sick of people whining.
What's worse about your particular "whine" is that it was ranty too;).
Check out the various definitions of whine. The one I like best is - To complain or protest in a childish fashion, but their are various ones and I think most people who post whine in some shape or fashion or have done.
I'm not sure what is more laughable, you rushing onto the forums to defend Cryptic or that you cannot see that your original post was a whine...;) See what I did there m8...
Actualy i'm not your 'm8', i dont even know you so that is impossible.
1. Ofcourse you can diss the game as much as you want, and so far that has brought you what?
2. What team? Dev team?
3. You dont.
4 They do, they probably do that at other MMO's also.
5. Yup.
6. Nope, i'm not, just dont understand how ungrateful people can be, especially when something is for free.
Yes that is what "whine" usually means, nice of you that you needed to look it up.
I could have said that "you" i'm using that word losely here, are spoilt pampered brats and ungrateful ones on that.
What is laughable is that you take fact as a whine and then whine about it.
So, how much do you get for free in your life?
You computer?
House/Apartment?
Car?
MS Windows?
Food every day?
Well if "you" are a kid, the obvious answer is yes for most of the Q's there.
And if you do get something, your mom and dad has probably taught you how to say "thank you" for what you get...
And, you are a grown up, you should still remember it.
And no, i am not running in here and trying to protect Cryptic.
They dont need me for that, their system of use is alot better, they just ignore the whiners.
I like the game, i know it is not perfect (find an mmo that is), but i like it and i play it.
I also use the forums to read the news, tips and tricks and to get some helpful hints on game play.
I like you m8:)
You give courage to your convictions, i'll give you that, but you have now started to sound a bit "preachy".
Still no idea why you feel the need to post about people "whining". It seems to be effecting you in a big way, with all the long "not whiney" posts you are doing, but I sill don't see the harm it's doing if people are posting their dislike.
My response to you at first was about you "complaining" about people "complaining" and I just found it ironic.
You seem to be sticking to the fact that you are not whining, but every post you do, sounds like a whine and a rant, with a little bit of holier than thou chucked in on the side.
If your happy with the game, great. Come on and post how much you love it and how great Cryptic is, but remember, forum dwellers will come on and pick holes or disagree. The point is not tell do what you have done and call their posts whines.
Anyway, bed now. I will respond to your "not whine" response tomorrow.
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Preachy?
Not the least, i am just sure in my conviction that 'you' should not be ungrateful for things you get.
I was not complaining at all.
More or less i was trying to convince people that "whining" / "complaining" constantly wont help, and as this game is free to play, i see it as being ungrateful in comparison of what they already is getting.
It's like taking the kids with you shopping.
They see something they want, you say no, not this time, and they continue to want it, and as kids, they whine when they dont get what they want.
So in this, you would say that the parent is just as whiney as the kids?
And this is what i see in many of the posts.
People acting like children because they are not getting what they want.
"Fix that" Give us this" "if not i' wont play anymore" "Craptic" "You broke something again!"
And this, i dont know where you found this
Originally Posted by thowas View Post
/Rant not whine stuff.