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born2bwild1
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With this new Dominion lock box coming out(which I am a fan simply because of the Dominion focas - not the lock-box focas) - will you be playing "Lock-Box Online"(trademarking this:P)
Also with so many non-faction ships in the game why do I have to be part of the Fed or KDF?
This makes no sense - I am "buying" a used ship from the Ferengi - which no Starfleet Adm would have to do to get a ship - then I now an independant - I have left starfleet.
Why can't I be a former Starfleet Adm - now retired - trading or fighting for hire or whatever in one of my "used" Dominion ships????
I mean I "bought" a used ship with my own money why do I have to be part of Starfleet or the KDF???
Also with so many non-faction ships in the game why do I have to be part of the Fed or KDF?
This makes no sense - I am "buying" a used ship from the Ferengi - which no Starfleet Adm would have to do to get a ship - then I now an independant - I have left starfleet.
Why can't I be a former Starfleet Adm - now retired - trading or fighting for hire or whatever in one of my "used" Dominion ships????
I mean I "bought" a used ship with my own money why do I have to be part of Starfleet or the KDF???
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Not true I am making EC by trading in the galactic market - and latinum and lobi - I can hire my own crew to man the "used" ship that I purchased.
With adding so many non-starfleet ships - they have made being part of Starfleet forever - irrelivant.
Cryptic should open up a non-aligned faction!
As for the rest of your post, that is the way I play my adopted main character. He was an alien tac officer until he got lucky to get a Galor. I then modeled him into a Cardassian who was assigned to Starfleet as part of a cooperative military program. Sort of an expanded officer exchange program if you will. This background story was then actually reinforced by the 2800 Featured Series.
Sorry But by making it so that half of Starfleet is flying ships from NON -UFP members - Starfleet has lost all credibility and is nothing like Star-Trek any more - no debating that.
The issue is with all these lock-box ships Cryptic could make a excellent case and take advantage of a Non-aligned player faction.
dont think it would work that way... cant just attack people at random in a game full of Queue's for everything from single combat to fleet actions.
Halliburton and Blackwater and what have you, but in space.
Lower tiers - retrofitted freighter, something like a statistically gimped tuffli
Medium tiers - selection of kdf and fed hand-me-downs (preferably with the option of 'worn and battered' armor style)
Top tiers - Maybe a Ferengi vessel, a selection of KDF/FED ships one can get 'on a long lease' (say, a BoP, the patrol escort, a battlecruiser and a dssv) and the lock box ships all factions can get. Definitely put firm restrictions in, as full access to all kdf/fed ships would be both overdoing it and unrealistic - you don't put your most advanced and powerful tech in the hands of contractors. C-store: selection, mostly (based on) older fed/kdf models. Maybe the Breen ship.
Starbases styled in the vein of Drozana, which would serve just fine as a starting point too.
Then, some minor tutorial and access too most Federation missions, minus the black ops arc, seeing as one wouldn't use outside contractors for that, and the FE's. Can queue on both sides in PvP.
Wouldn't require a lot of new assets or programming, would introduce a whole new flavor.
*shrug*
Not going to happen, but an interesting thought experiment.
if the stats and visuals appeal to me that is, i have not seen it all yet, but so far it looks promising.
but i'm sitting on 180 million EC and 5000+ Zen, so getting the 2 Ships should not be a problem, i'm more concerned about the Lobi bind on pickup items that can't be traded (i hate those, i don't want to support those, but i just WANT them... argh i hate these consumer unfriendly marketing tactics), that will require opening boxes and i have no idea how many.
anyway my other 9 chars will not touch it at all, nothing in there for them.
Step one (optional): sell some zen-bought keys on the exchange now, while prices are up
Step two: wait 4 weeks
Step three: get ships/items wanted from the exchange
Step four (optional): buy back some keys once prices dropped, open some boxes for lubi, get bind-on-pickup items.
I once both plenty of ships from C-Store, not because they were more powerful than the previous version, but because I could play something different. Now, I have shipyard full of starfleet ships, that have a lockbox copy with better stats.
I wonder, where the line will be drawn ?
Are you serious? Why can't Fed and KDF players attack each other at randon? They are at war - but can only fight each other in very limited places - and everywhere else they have to fight alongside each other?? What Kind of freaking war is that??
So there is a war but 95% of the time you actually fight for and defend each other?? That's some wacky S*** right there!!
actually i think i do the exact opposite...
open boxes until i get the lobi that i need, and buy the ships with EC after that
the ships will only fall on the exchange, the lobi pricetag stays the same
the LockBox will probably stay around for 3 months again, so plenty of time to grind it out.
and last time i *kinda* tried it your way, and guess what i got a 2nd D'Kora when i opened boxes to get the Lobi Set, which i then had to sell for less than i paid for mine (was a few weeks later).
anyway time to grind more EC and dil for the moment. i will not spend money on this game anymore until there is some actual content released regularly (i still want weekly FE's).
Lol, ok, fair enough.
My reasoning was based on the price of keys now (1,6 mil), vs the price of keys in a few weeks' time (back to 1,3 mil?).
I have very little love for the lockbox system, so I don't have a clue how many boxes you'd be opening to get the lobi you need - and what the odds are of getting a ship in that number.
Hope those keys would go up in price...2 or 3 mil instead. Usually when lockboxes come out ...key prices jump up since lots of people will be trying to do the alternate and paying EC in lieu of cash dollars. Either way someone is going to make a good profit...the top of the food chain is Cryptic who found a better system to keep STO F2P...who can blame it for it. Still lots of people who want to get the latest and the newest...appealing to our mere sense of lust...not bad for profit making...arrgh they must be real Ferenguis :cool:
I feel ya, i personnally hate the lock boxes. I think they should just sell the ships in the c-store. I have bought my share of c-store ships and will again i am sure. But I hate to gamble. Its such a let down. Every time I see a lock box I feel Cryptic/PWE is trying to hustle me. It used to mess with my immersion big time. Now I just ignore them.
But if they have to have em, put them in their own map. Or give me the option to turn them off. They are so abundant they might as well just hand them out to anyone who wants them.
I would like to say though to all the haters, one reason I came back to sto is that this game DOES run better than the other MMO's I have played, for whatever reason. AND Cryptic has done alot of good work and tied up alot of loose ends since I was playing sto last about 8 months ago.
I will never agree with the lockbox system, more so now that the rules surrounding why they had to be rare ended with the Breen ship.
I would buy every one of the ships and other items in the Lobi store if they were put in the cstore. I would even do so if they were per character, but so long as they are contained within lockboxes I will never spend a penny on them.
I own a Bug ship and a Mobius, but these were bought from the exchange where it required no monetary donation from me
They do not. Lockboxes drop as a separate drop table. You will NEVER get a Lockbox instead of another item; you will only get them in addition to other items.
Nope
Yes, because, in a time of war, Starfleet was NEVER shown using other faction's ships...oh, wait...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZftmQWox8qk
and
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OaCdFL_ZeCA
(IE go back and rewatch DS9's first two Season 6 episodes - "A Time to Stand" and "Rocks and Shoals" - they (Star Fleet officers are flying/commanding a Jem Hadar sttack ship (aka 'bug ship'.)
PWE ARC Drone says: "Your STO forum community as you have known it is ended...Display names are irrelevant...Any further sense of community is irrelevant...Resistance is futile...You will be assimilated..."
This is why the best choice is just no faction change. If you want a KDF you may roll a new char, char slots are damn cheap anyway.
God, lvl 60 CW. 17k.
Well then I'd prefer the option of dropping normal loot instead, for people who hate the lock box TRIBBLE. At least I can sell a crappy impulse engine for decent EC.
I know, I know, it's a source of income and will never go away, but I can dream.
Having said that, the more I've thought about it I don't really have any great issue with them. This is a F2P game. And compared to a lot it's actually a fairly well designed one, in that even though I am not personally paying money to play, I *could* access almost everything, I just have to do it over time. A lot of F2P games are actually rubbish that lock you out from like half the game. This doesn't.
In theory I could cash in Dil for keys. Or just sell everything and use EC to get keys. Will never be as fast as just paying... but I see that as fair enough. People who pay have the edge. That's how the system is supposed to work. And if I choose to ignore boxes altogether, that's my choice. There's still plenty of fun in the game...even if I admdit I'd like that Tholian Orb Weaver someday (and maybe I'll still get it).
I actually think this whole lockbox thing is a better designed "reward for pay players" system than some people give it credit for.
I'd much rather have a F2P game that works this way (essentially making "bonus" material easier for pay players to access but we all play the same game), than one which locks you out of half the actual game content. This is far more sustainable in the long run.
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(* or rather, the possibility of getting stuff, which is so much more lucrative than just letting us buy it outright.)
Personally, with one notable exception out of five characters, I don't fly non-Starfleet or KDF ships. (The one being a Tuffli-class freighter, whose captain was specifically created for that ship/concept and to not be regular KDF.) I didn't even bother to pick up my free Chel Grett. I do think it's a bit silly to see so many people flying around in them, or in Wellses, as they did before in Recluses and Atroxes and so on. (And later this year, maybe, they'll be flying Mogais or D'Deridexes or Andorian cruisers.) But really, it's no sillier than half a dozen other immersion-breaking things I see daily on ESD or in sector space.
I've seen fads and flavors-of-the-month come and go before, in other games; seen the plaza of CoH's Atlas Park full of elves with bows, guys in trenchcoats, captains with shields, and so on. Once added to the available options, they never go away entirely, but after something else comes out their numbers dwindle until they're no more common than anything else. It's natural, it happens, and I try not to let it bother me.
(Especially since more options means there's a chance, however slight, that I might someday get my wish for a proper Gorn cruiser - not a science vessel - for the aforementioned "simple freighter captain.")
I used to space them but collecting them now. Won't open one unless I KNOW what my chances of winning are (like thats ever gonna happen), and even my old stash of discontinued boxes are questionable as cryptic could nuke the loot table without telling anyone, and nobody would know, but they get your 125 zen for the key anyway.
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