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sunday- TOS WARS!

maicake716maicake716 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
edited December 2012 in PvP Gameplay
thats right, this sunday (23rd), at around 1pm est i'll be hosting TOS WARS!


Everyone interested in joining needs to be on drozona (i totally spaced out and forgot klingons cant go to k7 lol) for the event by 1pm EST. well be making our matches from there. Hopefully at least one- 2 matches will be able to be done.

feel free to join the chat channel- organizedpvp to find me if theres any questions. @matteo716 i'll be on my kdf toon- Mai Bad


what is tos wars you might ask?

well.. basically it only allows ships from TOS (the original star trek) and pits them into matches!

heres the ship restriction list-

fed side-(im sorry but i think i'll be leaving the nx class out of this era battle)

miranda (miranda only look only)
oberth
tos connie class
type f shuttle... (but seriously.. why!?)

teir 2 connie (connie refit look only)


klingon side-
brel (starter ship) (also note, this is not the Brel refit or the Brel retrofit)(also seems this ship is no longer available to new players :( but if you have it feel free to bring it on!)

teir 2 bop- quldun (skin it to be b'rel ish)
teir 2 cruiser the k'tanco or something (forgive me for not knowing its name)

weapons and items restrictions-

if it wasnt in the original star trek, it cant be used-

phasers (the connie ones sound best on the connie but are not required) and photon torps for the feds,

distruptors and photon torps for the klingons.

no fancy gear, no fancy consoles. you want that then make your own funday.

the mk of the gear doesnt really matter for this. just no fancy consoles you get from ships.





other theme battles that'll attempted to be held are the-

star trek 6 2v1 battle (the teir 2 enterprise and the teir 3 excelsior vrs a teir 5 brel refit)

weapons for that match-

feds- phasers and photon torps

klingon- photon torps

no hull heals allowed for the klingon, only native hull regen.

and the feds can use the heat seaking torp console.


sign up here or hit me up on sunday!
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    snoge00fsnoge00f Member Posts: 1,812 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Awesome idea. :)

    Sign me up.

    I hope I don't oversleep. lol.
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    glassguitarglassguitar Member Posts: 427 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    This sounds fun, it just might make me buy an enterprise!!!
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    sollvaxsollvax Member Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    That Enterprise comes with the Blue phasers by the way
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    glassguitarglassguitar Member Posts: 427 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    OKay, THIS I had to take part in!!!!!!

    Connie purchased!

    A little clarification please:

    Are we sticking to all original equipment? (i.e. shield, deflector, engine weapons?)

    How would this affect the BoPs? (limit to MK XI Blues?)

    As far as consoles go, are we placing a limit on those as well? (if so, MK XI Blue again seems to match up well with the Blue Phasers power)

    Thanks!! Count Buffy the Borg Slayer in!!!
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    thepleasuredomethepleasuredome Member Posts: 308
    edited December 2012
    Hm almost makes me wish I re-installed the game after my last hardrive failure.

    Other than some of you guys, my starships and these occasional fun days I have to say I don't miss the game much at all.
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    lordmalak1lordmalak1 Member Posts: 4,681 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    What a cool idea, but I'm NOT buying that K'Tanco just to play. The D7 was around back then, the B'Rel wasn't.

    Too bad the D7 is "more than a match for poor Enterprise".

    :P
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    aquitaine985aquitaine985 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Can I request the NX Class? Obviously the Steam Runner training wheel addition is out, but the NX maybe?

    What sort of time did you have in mind?

    What level items are we to have equipped?
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    stardestroyer001stardestroyer001 Member Posts: 2,615 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    I know it isn't a TOS ship, but I'd rather not buy more ships...

    Can the NX-class Light Escort count? (As a predecessor to TOS) It will abide by the same rules as above, no grappler if you wish.
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    maicake716maicake716 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    OKay, THIS I had to take part in!!!!!!

    Connie purchased!

    A little clarification please:

    Are we sticking to all original equipment? (i.e. shield, deflector, engine weapons?)

    How would this affect the BoPs? (limit to MK XI Blues?)

    As far as consoles go, are we placing a limit on those as well? (if so, MK XI Blue again seems to match up well with the Blue Phasers power)

    Thanks!! Count Buffy the Borg Slayer in!!!

    basically anything goes mk wise, and gear so long as its "era" appropriate (ie no fancy powers consoles allowed)

    lordmalak1 wrote: »
    What a cool idea, but I'm NOT buying that K'Tanco just to play. The D7 was around back then, the B'Rel wasn't.

    Too bad the D7 is "more than a match for poor Enterprise".

    :P

    the brel was in the movies i believe. (star trek 3 the search for spock) which is why i'm also allowing the oberth and the miranda class's for the feds.

    I know it isn't a TOS ship, but I'd rather not buy more ships...

    Can the NX-class Light Escort count? (As a predecessor to TOS) It will abide by the same rules as above, no grappler if you wish.

    id personally prefer to keep it to the era its set in.......
    if you still have your miranda that is available.
    Can I request the NX Class? Obviously the Steam Runner training wheel addition is out, but the NX maybe?

    What sort of time did you have in mind?

    What level items are we to have equipped?

    the time will be roughly 1pm EST with the matches starting at the latest 2pm EST.

    however this highly depends on then number of klingons available as well. :)
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    stardestroyer001stardestroyer001 Member Posts: 2,615 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    the brel was in the movies i believe. (star trek 3 the search for spock) which is why I'm also allowing the oberth and the miranda class's for the feds.

    In ST:III, the Excelsior-class was in there too, is that allowed?
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    maicake716maicake716 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    In ST:III, the Excelsior-class was in there too, is that allowed?

    No, as in th movies we see that the poor ship is "broken" and not able to take part. :P

    But seriously, no. It's a tier 3 ship compared to the tier 2's and 1's being allowed.

    No excelsior class.
    mancom wrote: »
    Frankly, I think the only sound advice that one can give new players at this time is to stay away from PVP in STO.
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    illcadiaillcadia Member Posts: 1,412 Bug Hunter
    edited December 2012
    But the D7 is fine though, right?


    EDIT: The D'kyr was in Enterprise, so it's an era relevant ship.
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    maicake716maicake716 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    illcadia wrote: »
    But the D7 is fine though, right?


    EDIT: The D'kyr was in Enterprise, so it's an era relevant ship.

    i dont think theres a d7 :(

    the dykr in enterprise was 100 or so years before TOS, and the one in the sto is "based" on its designs but is still a modern ship

    come'on. i listed the allowed ships.

    either you pick one of those with the weapons restrictions and gear restrictions... or this event isnt for you :)
    mancom wrote: »
    Frankly, I think the only sound advice that one can give new players at this time is to stay away from PVP in STO.
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    stardestroyer001stardestroyer001 Member Posts: 2,615 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    maicake716 wrote: »
    i dont think theres a d7 :(

    the dykr in enterprise was 100 or so years before TOS, and the one in the sto is "based" on its designs but is still a modern ship

    come'on. i listed the allowed ships.

    either you pick one of those with the weapons restrictions and gear restrictions... or this event isnt for you :)

    The D-7 class (aka the K'Tinga) is in the game as the Commander level Battle Cruiser. http://www.stowiki.org/K'tinga
    It has the D-7 skin seen in the TOS episodes, and the K'Tinga skin seen in TMP/Star Trek VI.

    Also, you have to realize, some of us don't have the resources right now to buy the ships you limit us to. I'll try, but it's a short deadline, and not a whole lot of time to gather the ZEN for the Constitution class.
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    maicake716maicake716 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    The D-7 class (aka the K'Tinga) is in the game as the Commander level Battle Cruiser. http://www.stowiki.org/K'tinga
    It has the D-7 skin seen in the TOS episodes, and the K'Tinga skin seen in TMP/Star Trek VI.

    Also, you have to realize, some of us don't have the resources right now to buy the ships you limit us to. I'll try, but it's a short deadline, and not a whole lot of time to gather the ZEN for the Constitution class.

    i understand that, and if the d7 was a teir 2 id ok it. but im really wanting to keep the number of usable powers in combat limited. and tier 2 and below is the best for a first go at this.

    i understand people wont be able to afford it, so all i can say is.. if it works this sunday look forward to another in the future.
    mancom wrote: »
    Frankly, I think the only sound advice that one can give new players at this time is to stay away from PVP in STO.
    Science pvp at its best-http://www.youtube.com/user/matteo716
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    stardestroyer001stardestroyer001 Member Posts: 2,615 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    maicake716 wrote: »
    i understand that, and if the d7 was a teir 2 id ok it. but im really wanting to keep the number of usable powers in combat limited. and tier 2 and below is the best for a first go at this.

    i understand people wont be able to afford it, so all i can say is.. if it works this sunday look forward to another in the future.

    So how will the KDF players participate if they are limited to only the B'Rel (T5)?

    After farming on all my toons, I've managed to scrape together the resources to buy the Connie. Looking forward to the event. Where are we meeting tomorrow, exactly? (This may be an issue if we have a lot of people participating, the game would like to throw everyone in different instances)

    EDIT: Sorry, misread the first post, I guess the "starter B'Rel" will be eligible (although I never got to choose which ship I fly in at the start of the KDF track).
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    maicake716maicake716 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    So how will the KDF players participate if they are limited to only the B'Rel (T5)?

    After farming on all my toons, I've managed to scrape together the resources to buy the Connie. Looking forward to the event. Where are we meeting tomorrow, exactly? (This may be an issue if we have a lot of people participating, the game would like to throw everyone in different instances)

    EDIT: Sorry, misread the first post, I guess the "starter B'Rel" will be eligible (although I never got to choose which ship I fly in at the start of the KDF track).

    If I'm not mistaken every Klingon starts with a bop (starter ship) unless they removed that as well... Ill have to check after work to see.
    mancom wrote: »
    Frankly, I think the only sound advice that one can give new players at this time is to stay away from PVP in STO.
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    brandonflbrandonfl Member Posts: 892
    edited December 2012
    maicake716 wrote: »
    If I'm not mistaken every Klingon starts with a bop (starter ship) unless they removed that as well... Ill have to check after work to see.

    I was actually wondering about this as well. KDF toons start at T3 now, if I'm not mistaken. I don't know if anyone even still owns a T1 B'Rel, and I'm fairly certain you can't get one even if you wanted to.
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    maicake716maicake716 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    brandonfl wrote: »
    I was actually wondering about this as well. KDF toons start at T3 now, if I'm not mistaken. I don't know if anyone even still owns a T1 B'Rel, and I'm fairly certain you can't get one even if you wanted to.

    If you can check if be much happy. I think the key is to beam out before you "select" your ship if your able too.

    If you can't ill check when I get home from work and go from there.

    I myself will be able to do Klingon if there's not enough, so that's at least one Klingon for the Feds to kill lol
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    Frankly, I think the only sound advice that one can give new players at this time is to stay away from PVP in STO.
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    brandonflbrandonfl Member Posts: 892
    edited December 2012
    maicake716 wrote: »
    If you can check if be much happy. I think the key is to beam out before you "select" your ship if your able too.

    If you can't ill check when I get home from work and go from there.

    I myself will be able to do Klingon if there's not enough, so that's at least one Klingon for the Feds to kill lol

    Unfortunately I'm all outta character slots otherwise I'd have been more than happy to check, and I haven't made a new KDF toon since S5 launched. Sorry.
    LOLSTO
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    maicake716maicake716 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    brandonfl wrote: »
    Unfortunately I'm all outta character slots otherwise I'd have been more than happy to check, and I haven't made a new KDF toon since S5 launched. Sorry.

    It's all good. If ya could hit up a few people ingame and see I'd owe ya one. If not its coo :)
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    Frankly, I think the only sound advice that one can give new players at this time is to stay away from PVP in STO.
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    brandonflbrandonfl Member Posts: 892
    edited December 2012
    maicake716 wrote: »
    It's all good. If ya could hit up a few people ingame and see I'd owe ya one. If not its coo :)

    Well, you definitely can't purchase the T1 B'Rel from the Ship Vendor. If there's some way of getting it by creating a new character and not selecting a ship, I'm unable to test. However, if that is a viable method, then you'd be at a severe disadvantage (no good gear/rep passives, etc...).

    Edit: Just looked and guess what, I didn't discharge mine. So that's at least 2 klingons that can bring a B'Rel.
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    stardestroyer001stardestroyer001 Member Posts: 2,615 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    http://www.stowiki.org/B'rel_Bird-of-Prey
    From the page I linked above:

    As the starting level for Klingon Defense Force characters was raised to level 20 (Lieutenant Commander) with Season 5, this vessel is no longer available to Klingon players.

    Unfortunately that means only P2P players from before Season 5 have that vessel... and I bet a large percentage have stopped playing or threw out that vessel.
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    aquitaine985aquitaine985 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    maicake716 wrote: »
    either you pick one of those with the weapons restrictions and gear restrictions... or this event isnt for you :)

    It's not for me then, I fly escorts, not cruisers and science ships. It's rather a shame, this could have been fun.
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    maicake716maicake716 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    It's not for me then, I fly escorts, not cruisers and science ships. It's rather a shame, this could have been fun.

    ask cryptic to introduce more lower level ships from TOS era :P


    lol maybe you'll be around for the dominion wars event im thinking of holding as well.
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    Frankly, I think the only sound advice that one can give new players at this time is to stay away from PVP in STO.
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    stardestroyer001stardestroyer001 Member Posts: 2,615 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    maicake716 wrote: »
    ask cryptic to introduce more lower level ships from TOS era :P


    lol maybe you'll be around for the dominion wars event im thinking of holding as well.

    Cryptic probably won't introduce more TOS ships. Those ships are now ~150 years out of date. :)

    And if this goes well, I'm totally up for a Dominion Wars or TNG themed event. My Galaxy-class Exploration Cruiser Retrofit is collecting dust - er, "microbes"- in the shipyard.
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    glassguitarglassguitar Member Posts: 427 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Well, I was PLANNING on being available both sides and was going to go ahead and buy the Lt Cmndr BoP for 15K dilithium, but apparently that isn't allowed? I would actually use that for other fun PvP events but no way I am buying the battlecruiser, which BTW is SO overpowered compared to the connie, so hopefully it will be one of those vs two connies or something like that.
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    maicake716maicake716 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Well, I was PLANNING on being available both sides and was going to go ahead and buy the Lt Cmndr BoP for 15K dilithium, but apparently that isn't allowed? I would actually use that for other fun PvP events but no way I am buying the battlecruiser, which BTW is SO overpowered compared to the connie, so hopefully it will be one of those vs two connies or something like that.

    That's why the Connie refit is allowe as well as the original Connie.

    Yeah, short sidedness of me wanting an event immediately so ill be able to consider future "themed" battles with. Little mor research in mind.

    All in all we have at least 2 Klingons for sure so... I think it'll be fun either way :)
    mancom wrote: »
    Frankly, I think the only sound advice that one can give new players at this time is to stay away from PVP in STO.
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    glassguitarglassguitar Member Posts: 427 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    The main reason I would not get the BAttlecruiser for this is I have no desire to own a cruiser .... LOL. Wasn't meant to be a complaint about OPness. Just more a hope that you would consider letting us use the itty bitty BoP for this. May not be EXACTLY the right ship, but still, it;s a BoP and theme apporapriatte and would make for some EPIC fights with the Connies.
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    maicake716maicake716 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    The main reason I would not get the BAttlecruiser for this is I have no desire to own a cruiser .... LOL. Wasn't meant to be a complaint about OPness. Just more a hope that you would consider letting us use the itty bitty BoP for this. May not be EXACTLY the right ship, but still, it;s a BoP and theme apporapriatte and would make for some EPIC fights with the Connies.

    right, if there was a tier 2 bop it can be used! (im so lacking in klingon information)

    just try to make it skined like the b'rel if possible for flavor.


    because this is supposed to be FUN :)
    mancom wrote: »
    Frankly, I think the only sound advice that one can give new players at this time is to stay away from PVP in STO.
    Science pvp at its best-http://www.youtube.com/user/matteo716
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