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Concerned about the "Kompu gacha" mechanic in Q's Winterland
aelfwin1
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Here is a quote from Dev bolog #25 :
Here's a description of the "Kompu gacha" mechanic that is banned in Japan :
Info on Japan's ban on the "Kompu gacha" mechanic can be seen here .
Another description of the "gatcha" mechanic can be seen here :
Now , at the risk of either total apathy (or one more s%^&t storm) from the community -- I'm actually making this post for the Devs .
They should be informed (if they are not informed already) -- and perhaps requested that they refrain from using the "Kompu gacha" mechanic if possible .
Last note -- it could very well be that while using the "Kompu gacha" mechanic as a basis , Cryptic has retooled it somewhat .
We won't know that until Branflakes much touted "Next Blog" sees the light of the internets -- where we will (hopefully) see how Cryptic will monetize the whole "parts to help build the best prize of all" thing .
I've decided to make this post prior to that Blog to inform Cryptic -- instead of having to post a rant after the fact .
Have a nice day .
(and don't make me say "I told you so" . Please .
)
Most importantly, be sure to run the "Fastest Game on Ice" race, because this will reward you with winter gift boxes that may contain parts to help build the best prize of all . . .
Here's a description of the "Kompu gacha" mechanic that is banned in Japan :
"Kompu gacha" took the system a step further, requiring multiple rare prizes to be won from the random "gacha" system before the grand prize would be awarded. While the ban in Japan is specifically only on "kompu gacha,"
Info on Japan's ban on the "Kompu gacha" mechanic can be seen here .
Another description of the "gatcha" mechanic can be seen here :
game players pay for virtual goods without knowing exactly which particular item they?ll receive via the exchange. It could be the final piece they need to assemble some larger tool that helps them succeed in the game environment, or it could be an item they already have and/or don?t need.
Now , at the risk of either total apathy (or one more s%^&t storm) from the community -- I'm actually making this post for the Devs .
They should be informed (if they are not informed already) -- and perhaps requested that they refrain from using the "Kompu gacha" mechanic if possible .
Last note -- it could very well be that while using the "Kompu gacha" mechanic as a basis , Cryptic has retooled it somewhat .
We won't know that until Branflakes much touted "Next Blog" sees the light of the internets -- where we will (hopefully) see how Cryptic will monetize the whole "parts to help build the best prize of all" thing .
I've decided to make this post prior to that Blog to inform Cryptic -- instead of having to post a rant after the fact .
Have a nice day .
(and don't make me say "I told you so" . Please .
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The lockbox came very close to that dynamic, but it sounds like the winter event is going the whole hog so to speak......
this does not bode well
a history of sto pvp: 2010 - 2011
a history of sto pvp: 2012 - 2013
Normal food suited for humans was banned in Japan and I dont see anyone making threads about that.
Normaly things get banned because people are too stupid to know what is good or bad for them and need someone (who in theory is smarter) to ban the things for them to protect them from their own stupidity.
Now I know I wont loose any part of my body opening boxes and I know that one of the things I hate most about stupidity in humans is the thingy called "ban" .Why the F*** someone needs to ban something?If you cant stop yourself to open boxes you need help and to spend some serious time with your parents (thats needed for reeducation).
Kids remember: No one can protect your from your own stupidity....not even bans.
Also i will not join the wonderland if the prize is going to be like stated
Spoken like a good little shill.
Well, we have to see what the Blog is going to reveal.
Spoken like a good little illiterate who has no clue what "shill" means.
I was briefly interested in doing the winter wonderland stuff until I saw they were going to incorporate more of their stupid money grubbing BS in it. I really hope someone gets sick of this and starts taking PWE and Cryptics practices to various governments around the world. Most of them take dim view of games of chance online...
and thats defenetly not alowed especialy not because they ask for money.
they should realy rethink some of there "game" meganics.
Also i wonder what it ads to the game....oh wait they found a new way to get our money....
Yes when you log in they come at your door with a gun and force you to buy keys to open boxes.
While raising awareness of possible awfulness is not a bad thing, this thread itself is jumping the gun and raising alarm about things that we don't know anything about yet.
Personally I'm saving the rage until I know what I'm actually raging about.
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And even though they dont force you to buy lock box keys, the system itself is illegal in moost countrys
Unless they monotize it, it is no different than the old STF gear drop system. Getting random prizes for racing in a game that you are paying $0.00 to participate in does not qualify.
That said I hope they don't, it would be a little rediculous (even for PWE) to put a price tag on participating in a winter race..
Lets just hope the blog is just talking about the same thing and not some McDonalds Monopoly type game where they only make X amount of the grand prize.
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That's it, exactly. The original winter boxes didn't require keys. If the new ones don't either, which I suspect will be the case, STO's somewhat in the clear.
I say somewhat, as they did sell the top tier of boxes on the C-store the first time around, and you rarely got the top tier boxes by chance. Best (probable) case scenario, that's what they'll do again. The top boxes will likely still be as rare as before, ensuring that the odds of getting all the components needed for the grand prize from these free ones, on one character or across alts, are virtually zero. And if you all but have to buy extra off the C-store to have a remotely reasonable shot at this, then yeah, it gets a little dubious. In the old way you could luck out and get the Jem'Hadar ship from one of the very few top tier boxes you got across all alts, but now, this way, even if you get lucky, you only have half or a third or a quarter of a ship. The idea probably being that this way they don't lose a potential box-buyer when someone accidentally 'lucks out' on the free ones, and in fact, with one-third of a (probably) Breen ship sitting in the bank, people will be more motivated to get the other bits for it.
This is of course entirely presuming that their 'Best prize of all' is indeed the ship, and not something nice, maybe even awesome, that will from a gameplay point of view be of relatively little consequence. (For example, maybe these parts are for a special starbase project. Or a FrankenEpohh.)
If they're crazy enough to tie the master keys into the boxes you get from the Q dailies, though... Well, I don't think it'll make much of a difference for me. I've recently conclusively decided whatever's in those boxes, I can live without. I run in the starbase development wheel now, and good news; when people start buying zen again to get either boxes or keys, I'll be able to trade in the zen I bought at 110 dilithium for more dilithium again.
But I look forward to watching the forums blow up.
Guess that's why we need a new one.
JJ Abrams style, eh? ^^;
"Last Engage! Magical Girl Origami-san" is in print! Now with three times more rainbows.
Support the "Armored Unicorn" vehicle initiative today!
Thanks for Harajuku. Now let's get a real "Magical Girl" costume!
Sending the writers to do that could explain why they haven't gotten around to finishing the Iconian story line.
I wouldn't be surprised, stuff thats been brought to the U.S. attention has been borderline weird.
Hey thats a different story (some pun intended
Is it bad that watching US politicians try to talk about online gaming would likely be more entertaining than most of what you can do in STO?
Because a well-regulated marketplace is a healthy one. Some business practices do need to be banned.
Not that there's a ship up for grabs for certain but there will be in the future, depending how this here goes. It's a guinea pig project on us just like last year's winter boxes that turned into lockboxes. If people bite at it, you can expect to see it the standard in the coming year. Whether this event is free or not is irrelevant. The point will be to test the waters with their next money making scheme. Which, btw, I would never complain about ever if they stopped clowning around and gave us more content. I'm tired of this game being stuck in limbo while they make money. Playing for free means jack**** when there's nothing to play. New romulus being the only meaningful addition since at least March is not what I call okay, and I seriously hope it did not take them all year just to give us New Romulus or this game is screwed. I await season 8 to make a final judgment.
Some?You mean the ones you dont like.
You either work for the church or your are a dictator who plays the game :rolleyes:
You may be someone who watches only Fox News, with that kind of deregulatory attitude. Business practices that are more akin to scams that are run by criminal organizations should be banned, be they kompu gatcha or the infamous derivatives market.
Theres no Fox News here in Europe.
Most people like to go to schools and teach their kids to know how to choose.It seems in your country you need a "daddy" figure to tell you what you re allowed to buy and what not to buy because you are not fit to decide and protect yourself for the evil unarmed "salesman" .
First: "...winter gift boxes that may contain parts to help build the best prize of all...:
When you read the word "may", it's not meant to be taken as a synonym for "have a chance to". I could see how you might do that from the context, but it's actually a "hey, you never know *wink* *wink*" may. Simply, when you do X to get the "parts" for Y, it's a guaranteed thing -- and, best part of all, it will be free. Just log in to play and you may just find yourself with a pretty nice Y (see what I did there?
Based on that, everyone will be able to get Y without having to worry about a chance (other than a chance that you won't be able to log in for an external reason), but X will need to be done. Y is the "best prize of all", and X is pretty simple. There are also a ton of other rewards, and while those use the same items as last year (Targ Earmuffs, Candles, etc.), the mechanic on how that works is being changed so it will be a lot easier to get the items you'd like as souvenirs.
I think players are going to be pleasantly surprised after reading the blog today
Cheers,
Brandon =/\=