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  • abrahamjohnson83abrahamjohnson83 Member Posts: 72 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    It creates the base for a full faction. Looking forward to next two episodes ;)
    Game development is no bunny hop. So I will be patient and curious for the future of STO!
  • nicha0nicha0 Member Posts: 1,456 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    People need to stop asking about Romulan factions, look at the state of the game? Its 3 years and the Klingons have a 1/4 of the content Feds do. You have to be an idiot to think that this company has the resources to put in a Romulan or any other race's independent faction ever.

    Playable Romulans will make it to the game, most likely we'll see them in Season 8, both Fed and KDF will be able to play them as they'll be a "divided" faction free to choose their path. They set this story up already, its going to happen.
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  • duaths1duaths1 Member Posts: 1,232 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    nicha0 wrote: »
    People need to stop asking about Romulan factions, look at the state of the game? Its 3 years and the Klingons have a 1/4 of the content Feds do. You have to be an idiot to think that this company has the resources to put in a Romulan or any other race's independent faction ever.

    Playable Romulans will make it to the game, most likely we'll see them in Season 8, both Fed and KDF will be able to play them as they'll be a "divided" faction free to choose their path. They set this story up already, its going to happen.

    The only problem i see with your scenario is if the CBS would approve it. I don't think so.
  • lincolninspacelincolninspace Member Posts: 1,843 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    Why do you want an Romulan faction? Cryptic is already devoting to much resources for the minimal Klingon faction. Resources which would better be spend on more Fed AWESOMENESS!!!






    No, really... Cryptic doesn't have the manpower to flash out 2 factions. And you want 3?... Oh my

    Exactly.:cool:
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  • nicha0nicha0 Member Posts: 1,456 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    duaths1 wrote: »
    The only problem i see with your scenario is if the CBS would approve it. I don't think so.

    You don't have to think, they have already stated this is how they want to do it, so that is how it is going to happen.
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  • duaths1duaths1 Member Posts: 1,232 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    nicha0 wrote: »
    You don't have to think, they have already stated this is how they want to do it, so that is how it is going to happen.

    link or it didn'T happen
  • emperormakemperormak Member Posts: 137 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    I hope we never get a Romulan faction.

    There's no reason to believe it would be any better developed than the KDF is right now. And it took an immense amount of complaining to get the devs to put any effort in that direction.
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  • flash525flash525 Member Posts: 5,441 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    duaths1 wrote: »
    The only problem i see with your scenario is if the CBS would approve it. I don't think so.
    Actually, I think CBS would. They've had to have been involved with the outcome of Season 7, Cryptic/PWE must have spoken to CBS about their long-term Romulan plans (else Season 7 would be worthless if CBS later says "no").

    I think that's exactly what is going to happen. The Romulan Empire (former) will be incorporated into the Federation and Half-Baked Klingon factions.
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  • daan2006daan2006 Member Posts: 5,346 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    flash525 wrote: »
    I think that's exactly what is going to happen. The Romulan Empire (former) will be incorporated into the Federation and Half-Baked Klingon factions.

    as i hope to Zeus you are wrong but i do not see it to far out the box
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  • flash525flash525 Member Posts: 5,441 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    daan2006 wrote: »
    as i hope to Zeus you are wrong but i do not see it to far out the box
    We shall have to remain optimistic, for all those souls lost with the destruction of Romulus. ;)

    One thing I don't get is their reluctance to go ahead with this Romulan Faction. It'll work, and it'll get people interested, plus (as with FED & KDF players) people will purchase Romulan Bank/Inventory slots, Bridge Officer slots, retrain tokens ect. It's more funding for them in the long run. :cool:
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  • vesterengvestereng Member Posts: 2,252 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    I think you are being overly optimistic

    I think we already got our romulan mini-faction.
    When they said they had an idea for mini-factions I am pretty sure you are looking at it :rolleyes:
  • duaths1duaths1 Member Posts: 1,232 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    vestereng wrote: »
    I think you are being overly optimistic

    I think we already got our romulan mini-faction.
    When they said they had an idea for mini-factions I am pretty sure you are looking at it :rolleyes:

    DS said somewhere that Romulus will evolve and we'll be SEEING the changes.
    That would mean that we'll see New Romulus GROW, seeing new buildings, new stuff, new missions... etc.. and in some 6-12 months there could be a new HQ somewhere on the map. Till then there will be one more KDF themed season.

    Then, and only then they could allow us to create Romulan captains and introduce the faction with all there shall be.

    This would make sense from the storytelling point of view too.
    We are battling Tal Shiar all the time in the Romulan FE. Then we help the Unificationists and Remans to build a new world.
    Those of you which played (SPOILER) the Tier 1 mission on New Romulus know the Tal Shiar does not sleep.

    There will be more missions available with each tier.

    So after helping them, and reaching the final reputation tier (you know the saying: biting the hand which feeds you) the New Romulus D'Tan government will be overthrown by Tal Shiar again
    (or D'Tan changes his mind) and the new faction launches..
  • bluedarkybluedarky Member Posts: 548 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    stark2k wrote: »
    Truth is, I feel that STO was incomplete during its launch. Atari and company first mistake was making it a subscription based game, it should have been F2P from the get go. Simply the game was not fully ready and had crude mechanics as well as balance issues. Proof of this was the half baked concoction that we call the KDF.

    I admit that they have come along way, but they are now stuck with the errors of development of Season 1 and even Beta. Rumors have it that Beta testers even gave Cryptic inputs on the game, imploring Cryptic not to launch. Cryptic did not listen and lo and behold we got a half baked game. Later on improvements were made and added, but thats after the fact.

    Truth is they should have started with a three faction game as per the traditional MMO's nowadays. There was no excuse not to. However; probably due to Atari and a Cryptic rush job, we're stuck with what we got.

    yes the game has improved since the Beta and season 1 - BUT at a high cost - The Romulan 3rd faction that many desire is now a literal pipedream.

    Cryptic made a statement that they didn't want to see any Rommie ships in a box, but guess what, they might not have a choice. Rommie gear and ships is a lucrative money grabber and they may be forced to plant them in lock boxes and on the Lobi store.

    So us Romulans fans now have to bow our heads in disappointment and hope that Cryptic hurry up and place the ships in a lock box - at least give me the honor of commanding a Romulan warbird or a Mogai.

    The biggest problem wasn't with ATARI or Cryptic, the biggest problem was that CBS only allowed Cryptic to take the franchise if and only if they stuck to the original deadline CBS had given Perpetual Entertainment.
  • flash525flash525 Member Posts: 5,441 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    bluedarky wrote: »
    The biggest problem wasn't with ATARI or Cryptic, the biggest problem was that CBS only allowed Cryptic to take the franchise if and only if they stuck to the original deadline CBS had given Perpetual Entertainment.
    And I don't suppose you'd know what that is?
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  • leviathan99#2867 leviathan99 Member Posts: 7,747 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    bluedarky wrote: »
    The biggest problem wasn't with ATARI or Cryptic, the biggest problem was that CBS only allowed Cryptic to take the franchise if and only if they stuck to the original deadline CBS had given Perpetual Entertainment.

    CBS didn't care when the game launched. They had a deadline set for license renewal.

    Cryptic couldn't afford to pay the license renewal without launching the game.

    It's not that CBS wanted a game. It's that they wanted their license renewal fee, which was coming due.
  • mousernovmousernov Member Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    It really is a shame, that for this long we have been discussing the addition of a new faction to this game. If it takes this much effort to realize a major game faction addition (The Romulans) , good luck with there being any new factions added to the game.

    I have been waiting for the addition of Romulans since launch, it has always been my favorite faction, They are more like modern day humans than the federation. The Klingons, though i enjoy them as well, never really blew me away as did the Romulans.

    (Put on funny cap) I just have always had a hard time envisioning "Klingon Warriors" patiently sitting through physics, literature, interpersonal communication, klingon rotc and a host of other studies patiently. The Romulans for me were easier to identify with, warriors with a alien code of honor and morality, cunning, crafty, patient, passionate and at times impatient and dangerously violent when threatened. Which given their national paranoia was near always, the perfect antagonist for a more evolved human federation.

    If STO doesnt add the Romulans i will be sorely dissapointed obviously, but im not holding out hope anymore. Not for a Romulan or any other faction tbh. If something doesnt grow and evolve it's usallly surpassed and left behind. The additions they have made to the game thus far have been good, very good actually, but they should not rest on their laurels and get too relaxed imho.
  • bluedarkybluedarky Member Posts: 548 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    CBS didn't care when the game launched. They had a deadline set for license renewal.

    Cryptic couldn't afford to pay the license renewal without launching the game.

    It's not that CBS wanted a game. It's that they wanted their license renewal fee, which was coming due.

    Either way, it works out as launch or no STO.
  • crunch2600crunch2600 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    Based on the nature of their updates to the game, I don't think creating a new faction in and of itself would make STO a better game. Creating a faction with at least the quality of the Klingon faction would take too much time and resources from real and important changes to the game. It's an empty goal that won't pay off unless they really give it their all, but that would be too risky. Just look at the Klingon faction, it doesn't make sense to divide the player base in that fashion in a half-assed attempt to fit in a new faction. And we're seeing KDF players queuing with FED players now. Even improving basic PvP should be higher up on the list. They should work on improving what's there and making updates that have a real impact on how much fun people are having with the game.
  • neohunter200neohunter200 Member Posts: 101 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    Personally, we should not be thinking about having a playable Romulan faction. There are still a couple of problems with the game itself.

    Off the top of my head:

    1. The ridiculous Reputation system

    2. Low res graphics that appears despite having a good PC and in-game graphical settings set to max for Texture Quality

    3. When you enable armor visuals on Klingon characters, it does not show up


    I'm pretty sure there are a couple more and I may not know about them.
  • daan2006daan2006 Member Posts: 5,346 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    i gave up on one when cryptic did that poll for <<<<playble>>>>> romulans :(
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  • duaths1duaths1 Member Posts: 1,232 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    There are still a couple of problems with the game itself.

    Off the top of my head:

    1. The ridiculous Reputation system

    2. Low res graphics that appears despite having a good PC and in-game graphical settings set to max for Texture Quality

    3. When you enable armor visuals on Klingon characters, it does not show up
    .

    1 - i see no problem with the reputation system
    2 - that is a problem for programming devs, Romulans would be an issue for story and designing devs
    3 - yeah, that is because they have not created KDF visuals yet, and never will. So no bug. Who needs them anyways?

    IMHO if Cryptic needs money, they should SELL something worthwhile.
    I would buy no new ships, cause all my toons i want to play (and also the ones i do not play often or not at all) have a Zen Store ship, or a lockbox ship, some have 2.

    I've bought every bundle except for the Bortas'qu, Vesta and the third. Ill not buy another FED or KDF ship again.


    I understand there are people which do have vaste amounts of Dill and Zen.
    But i do not see why there are no new
    - costumes for FED and KDF
    - PLENTY of off-duty uniforms, which can be CROSS-FACTION (and orion would wear the Vedek outfit too, don't you think?)
    - plenty of Hair options to buy
    - stuff you could add to your quarters or bridge or ship personalisations...

    Also a Romulan faction could do a nice dollar, as people would buy EVERYTHING new!
    The basic opportunity to play as Romulan would be free (that is the PWE policy).
    But you would get only one ship at lvl 45, every other shinie you would have to buy.

    So if they cry for money, this is the way to go!
  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    I really want to be able to play as a Romulan Faction member. But the longer they wait the less likely it seems.
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  • lostusthornlostusthorn Member Posts: 844
    edited November 2012
    The real question however is,
    do you want to regrind a new starbase, reputation, embassy, etc on the romulan side?
  • mrtoken_1390846233mrtoken_1390846233 Member Posts: 58 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    The real question is what would make you happiest:

    1) Romulan colony with reputation points that eventually allow you to play Rommies as KDF/FED.

    2) Push a half finished Romulan faction out similar to how they did the Klingons, re-using a lot of the maps and characters already in the game to save time.

    3) Wait three years for them to build a Romulan faction.

    I bet right now the recent survey results have convinced Cryptic #3 isn't an option and are looking at either #1 or #2.

    I would want number 3, but my way
    Hire new staff, get it working in a year, sell romulan Faction as an add on for the price of a new game. Hand over work to "value added" department, start working on new faction / next major purchasable update.

    Everyone wins, we get new stuff we just have to purchases it as upgrades (i am not talking about seasons/issues updates or ships etc, I am talking about stuff we would never get if we don't do it this way i.e. new factions, full playable major zones i.e. delta/gamma etc).
  • chelmsford123chelmsford123 Member Posts: 12 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    I've made a Romulan KDF side (seemed msot appropriate ship wise, if least appropriate allegiance wise). I have spent a lot of time and effort on it and would hate to have to restart from scratch

    ... but it would be worth it, just to have a true Romulan to play :)
  • daan2006daan2006 Member Posts: 5,346 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    The real question however is,
    do you want to regrind a new starbase, reputation, embassy, etc on the romulan side?

    not every one need that that is for fleet ppl dont get me wrong i would have a fleet but i dont need it fleet base and so on dont make the game go round
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    This! Their ability to outdo their own failures is quite impressive. If only this power could be harnessed for good.
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