Nope. An exclusive escort with better hull than fleet ships, two special powers from one console, and two universal boffs, all seems pretty powerful to me. Overpriced and too often flown by idiots maybe (not always, or even majority, but enough to make me nervous when I'm teamed with one), but the ship itself looks pretty powerful to me.
Anyone else thinks so? Especially with the new Vesta coming out.
Chimera/Pegh'u should be the most powerful in-game ship. Period.
I actually don't agree with this at all that much, especially since they made it a lifer perk and not a vet reward. I agree that it's not very impressive since it was originally supposed to be a lot more B>A> than it is, It's done pretty well for me, but if i were to have it done differently i'd have made 3 variations, that way it unlock as a class based ship depending on the character class allowing a normal mode that is shared between the three as well as a class mode which would in turn help you be more efficient as the class you are.
Also have Maco Mk12 Set, don't feel much stronger than the Omega one.
Honestly this thing excells as a multi target ship. try swapping the ltc for a sci and take grav well. Or you can make it prety tanky with a ltc eng and an aux2bat to keep your skills up most of the time.
Also you didn't mention consoles or what type of weapons you are using. OR what captain for that matter.
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Anyone else thinks so? Especially with the new Vesta coming out.
Chimera/Pegh'u should be the most powerful in-game ship. Period.
Let me say this as simply as I can.
No. Especially to the Italicized and Bolded portion.
While we're at it, why don't we just make the Light Cruiser and Lt Level B'rel BoP have 27 consoles and teleport abilities with no cd. Also let's make the Odyssey and Bortasque have only 1 console each and unable to turn. AND let's take the Fleet Defiant and Fleet Qin and put all their tactical consoles and into science and engineering. Lastly, let's take the Vesta, take away ALL of it's consoles, weapons, deflector, shields, and device slots.
Because each of those above ideas are about as sensible as what you are suggesting.
It is said the best weapon is one that is never fired. I disagree. The best weapon is one you only have to fire... once.
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Chimera/Pegh'u should be the most powerful in-game ship. Period.
What hereticknight said.
Just being a lifetime subber doesn't mean you should have all the best stuff by fiat.
If STO were TRULY as "Pay-to-win" as its critics insist, then it would be the people who would spend the most money that would deserve to pay for the best in-game ship.
And the truth is, the people who spend the most money are probably NOT the lifetime subscribers.
Not counting C-store purchases, if you've had you're lifetime sub since day one or shortly after, then you've certainly spent less money than a person who subscribed monthly and stayed that way until today. In fact, if you've been playing lifetime, your sub has long paid for itself through free game time played as well as the monthly stipend.
No no, what lifers "deserve" is a really cool ship that no one else will have. The Chimera and the Peghu are exactly that.
I threw out that console and replaced it with a phaser relay, I have en engineer at lt with empts and engineering team, and have my second tac at ensign with TT.
I think it's a tough little ship and it doesn't need a buff, especially since it is a exclusive ship.
A contract is a contract...(but only between Ferengi).
The shields feel a little funky on my Sci/Peghqu' but other than that it's an awesome ship - I have the Chimera on my Tac but I don't enjoy playing that anywhere near as much as the Sc/Peghqu' combo - maybe because for a Tac the 1000-day ships just feel like a slightly more sluggish Escort (and maybe I just miss that Battle Cloak)...
But in answer to the OP's question - no, they don't need anything added - they're just fine and quite unique as they are.
While we're at it, why don't we just make the Light Cruiser and Lt Level B'rel BoP have 27 consoles and teleport abilities with no cd. Also let's make the Odyssey and Bortasque have only 1 console each and unable to turn. AND let's take the Fleet Defiant and Fleet Qin and put all their tactical consoles and into science and engineering. Lastly, let's take the Vesta, take away ALL of it's consoles, weapons, deflector, shields, and device slots.
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I think you have gone a little OTT with that one... (The Oddy can't turn anyway).
As for the OP, you can't make it the most powerful thing in the game without knocking the bug off it's throne... imagine the outrage... no, it's just fine as it is
For additional detail, Aux2Batt gives a blanket power boost for weapons, shields and engines temporarily, a good deal for nearly any situation. If Scotty "cannae have the power", with Aux2Batt, you're gonna get some power and jam it in there.
It's a slightly exotic build and takes some skill to play, but using it properly can make some ships that considered "useless" perform at god-tier.
If you're an engineering captain you can actually get away somewhat without it, since you have a number of native powers that can circumvent or reduce your need to constantly be boosting your power levels, like Nadion Inversion (negates weapon power drain, wonderful for making alpha strikes), EPS Power Transfer (basically a mega-Aux2Batt + Emergency Power to Aux), and Rotate Shield Frequency (a blanket shield resist and regen boost). Those abilities all have a longer cooldown, but can save your butt with the right timing.
I actually don't agree with this at all that much, especially since they made it a lifer perk and not a vet reward. I agree that it's not very impressive since it was originally supposed to be a lot more B>A> than it is, It's done pretty well for me, but if i were to have it done differently i'd have made 3 variations, that way it unlock as a class based ship depending on the character class allowing a normal mode that is shared between the three as well as a class mode which would in turn help you be more efficient as the class you are.
You know I never bought a lifer account, but I do have more than one toon with Pengu's.
If you are a pickle in a pickle jar you know every pickle's different, sort of, but really they're all just pickles...
Yeah, it's a 1000-day vet perk, but if you buy a lifetime (either during the sale or maybe now, I'm not sure), you get instant access to all the perks.
For additional detail, Aux2Batt gives a blanket power boost for weapons, shields and engines temporarily, a good deal for nearly any situation. If Scotty "cannae have the power", with Aux2Batt, you're gonna get some power and jam it in there.
It's a slightly exotic build and takes some skill to play, but using it properly can make some ships that considered "useless" perform at god-tier.
If you're an engineering captain you can actually get away somewhat without it, since you have a number of native powers that can circumvent or reduce your need to constantly be boosting your power levels, like Nadion Inversion (negates weapon power drain, wonderful for making alpha strikes), EPS Power Transfer (basically a mega-Aux2Batt + Emergency Power to Aux), and Rotate Shield Frequency (a blanket shield resist and regen boost). Those abilities all have a longer cooldown, but can save your butt with the right timing.
You left out the abusive part. With 3 tech doffs you get 30% reduced cooldown on all boff skills including Aux2Batt. While I find 1 Aux2Batt works for me, others combine it w/epta for some lolz cooldown.
Edit: To the OP the KDF ship in particular is very good. It's a hybrid between a Raider and a Destroyer.
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You left out the abusive part. With 3 tech doffs you get 30% reduced cooldown on all boff skills including Aux2Batt. While I find 1 Aux2Batt works for me, others combine it w/epta for some lolz cooldown.
Edit: To the OP the KDF ship in particular is very good. It's a hybrid between a Raider and a Destroyer.
True, but I'm too cheap to buy purple techs. Maybe I'll try the build when I'm rich and famous :P
I remain empathetic to the concerns of my community, but do me a favor and lay off the god damn name calling and petty remarks. It will get you nowhere.
I must admit, respect points to Trendy for laying down the law like that.
Yeah, it's a 1000-day vet perk, but if you buy a lifetime (either during the sale or maybe now, I'm not sure), you get instant access to all the perks.
Well yeah, i earned mine as the 1000 day as well, but i've been a lifer since they started selling them. I just don't agree with the fact that the vet rewards have a price tag now. it kind of defeats the term "veteran rewards". As for the ship though i also think it would have been nice to get a little more variety, like have it eng/sci/tac based on your character class, but that's just me.
They're not bad ships, but they're not great either. They have some unique perks, and look kinda neat. They don't feel particularly powerful, but maybe that's just because I feel a broadside-focused ship is just all around more durable and reliable.
It's tricky to keep stuff in a 45 degree arc constantly all the time - especially if you want to be moving. Just my two cents anyway.
Well yeah, i earned mine as the 1000 day as well, but i've been a lifer since they started selling them. I just don't agree with the fact that the vet rewards have a price tag now. it kind of defeats the term "veteran rewards". As for the ship though i also think it would have been nice to get a little more variety, like have it eng/sci/tac based on your character class, but that's just me.
Does it really matter? Not that many people will pay for a lifetime, so even as a day 1 lifetimer, anyone crazy enough to pay for a lifetimer may as well be a veteran.
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Lt. Comm Tac: Tac1, Volley2, Volley3
Ensign Engineer: Epts1
Comm Tact: Tac1, CRF1, CRF2, Omega3
Lt. Engineer: Eng1, RSP1
Lt. Sci: HE1, Pol1
Also have Maco Mk12 Set, don't feel much stronger than the Omega one.
I actually don't agree with this at all that much, especially since they made it a lifer perk and not a vet reward. I agree that it's not very impressive since it was originally supposed to be a lot more B>A> than it is, It's done pretty well for me, but if i were to have it done differently i'd have made 3 variations, that way it unlock as a class based ship depending on the character class allowing a normal mode that is shared between the three as well as a class mode which would in turn help you be more efficient as the class you are.
Honestly this thing excells as a multi target ship. try swapping the ltc for a sci and take grav well. Or you can make it prety tanky with a ltc eng and an aux2bat to keep your skills up most of the time.
Also you didn't mention consoles or what type of weapons you are using. OR what captain for that matter.
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Let me say this as simply as I can.
No. Especially to the Italicized and Bolded portion.
While we're at it, why don't we just make the Light Cruiser and Lt Level B'rel BoP have 27 consoles and teleport abilities with no cd. Also let's make the Odyssey and Bortasque have only 1 console each and unable to turn. AND let's take the Fleet Defiant and Fleet Qin and put all their tactical consoles and into science and engineering. Lastly, let's take the Vesta, take away ALL of it's consoles, weapons, deflector, shields, and device slots.
Because each of those above ideas are about as sensible as what you are suggesting.
What hereticknight said.
Just being a lifetime subber doesn't mean you should have all the best stuff by fiat.
If STO were TRULY as "Pay-to-win" as its critics insist, then it would be the people who would spend the most money that would deserve to pay for the best in-game ship.
And the truth is, the people who spend the most money are probably NOT the lifetime subscribers.
Not counting C-store purchases, if you've had you're lifetime sub since day one or shortly after, then you've certainly spent less money than a person who subscribed monthly and stayed that way until today. In fact, if you've been playing lifetime, your sub has long paid for itself through free game time played as well as the monthly stipend.
No no, what lifers "deserve" is a really cool ship that no one else will have. The Chimera and the Peghu are exactly that.
I think it's a tough little ship and it doesn't need a buff, especially since it is a exclusive ship.
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Except when using 2x AtoB, then its the most powerfull ship in game.
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But in answer to the OP's question - no, they don't need anything added - they're just fine and quite unique as they are.
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Maybe he read some of the sense in the thread and is hiding his head in shame
Shame really, I wanted to see what he had to say to our comments.
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I think you have gone a little OTT with that one... (The Oddy can't turn anyway).
As for the OP, you can't make it the most powerful thing in the game without knocking the bug off it's throne... imagine the outrage... no, it's just fine as it is
srsly...4 cannon abilities is 2 too much, 3 team abilities is 1 too much...missing TSS
and thats only what i can take from the BOFFs, might be even more sub optimal when i see the full build with consoles, etc...
then, omega set works only with certain weapons + skill, and even then the full set is kind of "meh"
What is AtoB?
For additional detail, Aux2Batt gives a blanket power boost for weapons, shields and engines temporarily, a good deal for nearly any situation. If Scotty "cannae have the power", with Aux2Batt, you're gonna get some power and jam it in there.
It's a slightly exotic build and takes some skill to play, but using it properly can make some ships that considered "useless" perform at god-tier.
If you're an engineering captain you can actually get away somewhat without it, since you have a number of native powers that can circumvent or reduce your need to constantly be boosting your power levels, like Nadion Inversion (negates weapon power drain, wonderful for making alpha strikes), EPS Power Transfer (basically a mega-Aux2Batt + Emergency Power to Aux), and Rotate Shield Frequency (a blanket shield resist and regen boost). Those abilities all have a longer cooldown, but can save your butt with the right timing.
You know I never bought a lifer account, but I do have more than one toon with Pengu's.
You left out the abusive part. With 3 tech doffs you get 30% reduced cooldown on all boff skills including Aux2Batt. While I find 1 Aux2Batt works for me, others combine it w/epta for some lolz cooldown.
Edit: To the OP the KDF ship in particular is very good. It's a hybrid between a Raider and a Destroyer.
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True, but I'm too cheap to buy purple techs. Maybe I'll try the build when I'm rich and famous :P
You can get easy purple Techs actually.
B'tran Support mission gives them if you crit em, and Ferra (and I would guess S'tass) can sell purples too.
That aside, The 1000 day ships are good I feel. You can run them more or less how you want to.
Well yeah, i earned mine as the 1000 day as well, but i've been a lifer since they started selling them. I just don't agree with the fact that the vet rewards have a price tag now. it kind of defeats the term "veteran rewards". As for the ship though i also think it would have been nice to get a little more variety, like have it eng/sci/tac based on your character class, but that's just me.
It's tricky to keep stuff in a 45 degree arc constantly all the time - especially if you want to be moving. Just my two cents anyway.
Does it really matter? Not that many people will pay for a lifetime, so even as a day 1 lifetimer, anyone crazy enough to pay for a lifetimer may as well be a veteran.