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Thank you for putting the Dilithium back!
maliusnight
Member Posts: 30 Arc User
I just want to say I am very pleased that you guys have decided to put the dil reward back in. I'm certain that was the right choice, I think this whole thing has gone a long way to restoring my faith in the devs.
Thanks!!
Thanks!!
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Yes thank you for TRIBBLE up so much of the game and fixing the one part
lmfao so very true
system Lord Baal is dead
Daizen - Lvl 60 Tactical - Eclipse
Selia - Lvl 60 Tactical - Eclipse
That's pretty much how I feel about the whole thing.
I do appreciate them adding it back, but after playing 1 STF I decided not to play another, or indeed anymore, and as a result to forget about the reputation system too.
So really they shot themselves in the foot and this reverse is just damage limitation.
Besides that, I am looking forward to playing the new content and think that New Romulus is a good update that I am very much looking forward to exploring. So yes, a "thank you" is in order, but it's not one of overwhelming gratitude like it could or should have been.
Actually in all fairness I played the fleet actions a lot today. It is not a bad way to get dilithium. It was pretty fun. I even got blown up a few times, Wish they would have actually made improvements to them. There were times I had to sit doing nothing waiting on enemy fleets to spawn. I am assuming that is why nobody liked them in the first place. While it says 20 to 30 minutes play time, you spend about 10 waiting on the spawns to happen.
Even with all my Season 7 criticisms, the 1440 dilithium reward for the fleet action is actually something they did right. Lowering it to 480 I doubt I will ever do another one, unless I need very rare loot drops for a new character.
Not when you are doing the monthly subscription or lifetime
I guess I'll have to trust you on tier 5 because on tier 0 you get 0 dilithium. The only thing we currently get dilithium from are 20 man fleet battles.
At tier 0 you can still do BNP turn ins for 10 BNP to 1000 dil. Thats still 1060 a run which is 40 less I admit then back in the day, But it is something. Combine it with a quick 480 SB24 pick a quick VR console and your doing pretty good.
Well, your math is off. It was 1100 dil + any edc/salvge/tech you turned in, once I got 8012 dilithium from one ISE run because I turned in 3 Proto Salvage.
pwebranflakes: this system is currently in place and working the way it should.
moradum: I got banned for saying "I started my day with cutting off 3 MM off of the bottom of my cabinet"
Once again, I have to say, I don't thank someone for repairing something which got broken on purpose in the first place. However, I thank for the effort that has been brought to the Tau Dewa sector block which is a good place to fly around these days, and I thank for the lowering and easing of duff requirements in fleet projects.
Original Join Date: January 30th, 2010
And how many times did you just get EDCs?
Its not impossible. But its even if they do just enjoy watching the forums burn down every new season it strikes me as both totally unlikely, and it doesn't reflect well on them. The forums are never the cleanest happiest place but they are positively toxic during this launch. It doesn't look good to new players, i can't look good to PWI investors.
If we want them to make the changes we want, then We must reactive positively when they do so. Its that simple. Positive re-inforcement is more likely to achieve the desired out come then endless pages of flame.
As a cynic, I'm in accordance with many who've stated their belief that Cryptic knew what they were going to do well in advance. For me, the REAL reason behind the STF changes was the number of players getting rich off them through drops (EC) rather than dilithium, and have used the dil return as cover for their true purpose.
Cryptic, if you praise them now, come out smelling of roses for breaking what wasn't broken instead of creating new, enticing content for players to spend on.
Your praise now they can use as fuel for the next mega-nerf after which they'll give 10% back as a pat on the head for the good little players. Lies and deceit from developers must not be permitted, and must NEVER be forgotten nor forgiven.
I never get "just edcs" - I either got 2-3 blue items or enough edcs to pile up and buy some borg parts in order to sell them for ec. It was well over 100k ec on average. And sometimes I got items that I sold for millions.
In addition to killing largest dil income source they killed largest EC source as well. Don't you see it?
pwebranflakes: this system is currently in place and working the way it should.
moradum: I got banned for saying "I started my day with cutting off 3 MM off of the bottom of my cabinet"
Now it seems that people are STILL unhappy.
People, ever heard of being magnanimous in victory? Seriously, a little maturity. I'm sure your egos can withstand making a little less imaginary money in an imaginary world.
Where is the like button for your comment ? :-)
Really? You always got 2-3 blue as well as 2 EDCs? Those items sold for over 100k on average? That is amazing!
Cause I have done literally Hundreds of elite STF runs, and Certainly have not seen anything like that level of return on average.
Yes there were lucky runs, and there lucky drops. But If you averaged over 100k worth of drops your so lucky you must have gotten your full MkXII set on the first run each and every time.
Let me simply rephrase that its impossible to have come that average. No one got 100k average worth of drops in ESTFs. Not if you really ran them. I have seen more then one MkXII (Acc x3) weapon drop, and those sell of loads of cash. But believe me it still wouldn't average out to 100k per run.
Of course I see that we lost the loot bag. But I don't care, to be honest, the drops from that have been mostly worthless for 2 seasons. The buff to loot to FA is honestly much more valuable, and they aren't going to give that back that drop, we knew that in the testing phase. We don't need EC to run STFs. We do need Dil. They gave us back Dil and that means we can go on as we have been. We can make all kinds of money off FAs instead.
+1
I'm glad I'm not alone.
Cryptic made changes, but lied first about said changes. This caused the greatest upset IMO.
Cryptic knew from the beginning there would be outcry, hence the ruse to placate the few who get their dil back.
There was no victory in which to be magnanimous. Cryptic did not apologise for the lies. Cryptic have still sent dil needs soaring whilst lowering the availability of "easy/fast" dil, which they claim they weren't trying to do. Another lie but there we go.
I'm terribly sorry to break this to you, but anything they put on Tribble or announce on forums is subject to change. This doesn't mean they've lied. It means they decided to change something.
Also, you do understand that they're not actually obligated to tell you their intentions, don't you? Not unless you're a stockholder. Are you a stockholder?
Indeed they aren't, but they allow for discussion and dislike, so I described my dislike in the forum. You understand what a forum is, right?
As was their intention all along. You know this because they told you? You know this because you can read minds? You know this because you're a soothsayer? If I were you I'd be buying lottery tickets!!
Yes, a forum is a place where hopefully-rational people discuss things. There was discussion to implement a change. That change was implemented. I fail to see why the discussion needs to continue as the goal was achieved. There's no more to gain out of this.
By any chance do you believe the world owes you something? Hold on to something now... It doesn't!!
Yes, i agree, Thank you Cryptic, pwe, DaStahl
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is that you can't properly teabag your defeated opponent
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Wrong. Say that in one run you get 2 edc, one blue shield. 3 edc and some crappy console in second. Sell your shield for ~45k, crappy console for 9k, buy a borg engine with edcs and sell it for 100k. Which means in 2 sub-aversge runs you have 154k, which means average of 77k. And in this example drops were really crappy. Usually I came out with better stuff.
Say that you get a decent dmg console - its worth about 340k. I used to get one in 3-4 runs. Or get a blue mk xii shield and a blue mk xi deflector, thats about 90k. Notice the fact I am not even mentioning purple drops.
And no, I didn't get "all mk xii stuff" in first run. Despite that I have enough [Borg] weapons and full mk xii sets to just laugh at this sad repetition system. I was playing 3-4 E-STFs per day, 4-5 days in a week. Now compare it with "rewards" in new system.
pwebranflakes: this system is currently in place and working the way it should.
moradum: I got banned for saying "I started my day with cutting off 3 MM off of the bottom of my cabinet"
Its not free only, some us pay, pay alot.. so STFU with, free is free