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I thought STO was supposed to be a Space MMO?
born2bwild1
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There is only really 1 reason that I come here: Starships
Why is every season now focasing more and more on ground stuff??
Last season 5 new grond missions - the Big Nukara Ground zone?
This season the New big Focas is New Romulus Ground Zone? Plus tons of other ground stuff.
What the heck?
In Season 8 - is the next update a 1000 Zen point Retrait where Q gives you a choice of 4 magical powers?
Why is every season now focasing more and more on ground stuff??
Last season 5 new grond missions - the Big Nukara Ground zone?
This season the New big Focas is New Romulus Ground Zone? Plus tons of other ground stuff.
What the heck?
In Season 8 - is the next update a 1000 Zen point Retrait where Q gives you a choice of 4 magical powers?
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And ground content isn't the only content we've received. Much of the new Romulan missions take place in space, with Tholian ships attacking various things. New Romulus is simply the new biggest zone, the focus of all your efforts spent in space patrolling.
Been playing STO since Open Beta, and have never regarded anything as worse than 'meh', if only due to personal standards.
-Just because you only come here for starships, doesn't mean its the same with us all
-Ground maps are for exploration, space are more combat heavy
-Dev's decision
-Dev's Decision and progression of storyline
the last bit is silly and has nothing to do with the rest your gripe about new content having ground missions, hence no response
I guess the reason the big updates have focused more and more on ground content is to bring it up to par with the starship content, which since day one, has always been touted as the far more enjoyable aspect of the game.
The devs just want to make sure that both aspects of a player's career are enjoyable and fun, not just one.
Also, how is one expected to explore "strange new worlds" while holed up in your starship? Personally, I don't mind the ground expansions and refinements. The starships are always going to be my personal favorite side to play (as I suspect they will for many other players), but now being on the ground doesn't feel like the chore it once was.
And frankly, New Romulus is gorgeous. Nukara is also pretty fun.
In any case, this comment...
... frankly mystifies me. I'm not quite sure what you are insinuating, or if you are trying to make some kind of off-handed insult.
Personally, I love space and ground combat equally. The monotony of space needs to be broken up for me. I know other players absolutely hate and loathe ground combat, and I can certainly see why if they want STO for just the space part.
But STO is Star Trek Online. Star Trek had both space and ground material.
And to be quite honest, for those of us who have been here since the beginning, ground combat was very very... well... unfun. Ever since the ground combat overhaul, Cryptic has been adding more and more ground content to make it more appealing and playable, just as much as space combat is.
Not saying they're doing a fantastic or horrible job at it, but from what I gather that's what their goal is. To make a richer ground experience. Because the ground combat experience was very very dismal from the start.
In fact, I think there are a few posts around this forum complaining that there are too many things to do in space ... or maybe it was the repetition of space things to do. Yeah, that's probably it.
Truth be told you can advance quite a ways without even playing ground missions. I became interested in STO after I played Star Trek Legacy, so I understand what someone might have been wanting from STO. I have played plenty of the episode missions, but if I want to play straigght up space fights, I'll go to warzones, fleet battles or even pvp. Iknow that some stuff don't open up until certian levels, so stick to war zones until pvp opens up.
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Alas, what we have now is a PWE Sci-Fi game, very loosely themed on Star Trek
However, do keep in mind all of the Patrols in Tau Dewa are spaced based, so there is new space action, including the Tholian Red Alert and Azure Nebula, so there is new space stuff, you just have to go out and find it, but it is there, almost every planet has a space Patrol. I would like to see space and ground be even in the game, perfectly balanced. I think Cryptic just likes making new social zones
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And to be honest: as it's also a RPG. So I am very thankful for the chance to create a toon for ground because for me it's important to identify with my character/avatar and have something to do with him instead of just seeing his picture on the UI.
To me immersion is very importat and that is much easier with a humanoid beeing rather than a ship - even if it has also it's own "personality"
Ship outfitting is fairly simple, space combat is simple and fairly straightforward, but that's about all there is to do in space. Just adding new star systems and new sector blocks won't really help there.
Truth is, though, I don't know what they could substantially add or change in space that wouldn't require basically rewriting everything they've already done for the space engine.
From day one, the game has always been split with ground and space, arguably with a slant more towards ground. star trek the series is more about the people on the ship than seeing space battles so that fits as well.
and the new season has an entire sector block of space missions, a space stf and 2 space events. even last season had more fleet events in space than ground. the big zones like nakura and new romulus have been ground but you can do so much more with ground than you can with space.
the fact is making space missions, while technically easier to make, is actually tricky to make as creatively as ground as you can generally do more with the story, the mission types, the environments etc.
yeah, one wonders why they didn't add a new sector block with daily patrols; another space based STF, and more space based Fleet events in Season 7..... oh. wait...
Sorry, but I don't see how you can say they're giving more focus to ground when they did in fact add a lot of stuff to the space-based game as well.
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Pretty much every season pre-season 7 has been space centered...
So a little more ground is getting added... The majority of content still is space.
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See the maps, the ground ones can be excellent in STO, but the space ones are extremely poor and limited. Also, space allows one type of mission only: combat. Is Star Trek about this?
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Ok I get everything everyone has said. I guess I just think the game is becoming more and more like other MMO's and less Trek - hence my adding magical powers joke.
The fact is TOS was the only show heavily ground focased and according the Gene the ONLY reason for that was limited budget. After TOS actual one the ground made up les than 20% of the shows. The Bulk - more than 50% happend inside the ships/stations - etc
And 95% of the ground stuff in Star Trek always a story or a mystery to solve - not collecting rocks over and over again.
That's all I ment - it just seems like the game is getting less and Less Star Trek and more and more generic MMO every season.
Am I totally wrong?
That's odd, I thought I had 106 people up on my ship I could boss around...
If anything I feel like the con officer I guess.
No. 1 thing that kills the trek feeling for me is not being able to pilot from your bridge though.
And adding to that is knowing exactly what is around the next corner, every corner.
Take a note from eve's book, make some clusters open-ended gameplay, unregulated space where people actually get to do what they want.
In a sense that would become unlimited content because you'd never know what was going to happen and you'd have to explore and adapt in crisis situations.
Put rewards out on other players or try to transport cargo, whatever, plenty of oppertunities, just make it open to add the element of the unknown.
Letting the players be the content explore their creativity
How long will collecting water and rock samples be "fun" for you?
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Can't tell if serious or not..... What is in game that is not rooted in Star Trek?
Also, I'm here for Star Trek and play it because it is Star Trek... If you are playing this game to just play another Space MMO, you will probably be disappointed. There was another thread that asked if you would play this game if it wasn't based on Star Trek... and the answer is no...lol I just wanted to point that out to possibly save you some time and to avoid seeing your ship in sector space with the name U.S.S. D3A+h p3Ni5
This game doesn't have the space combat that other games do eg StarFleet Command.
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http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Second_Battle_of_Chin'toka
http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Battle_of_Wolf_359
http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Battle_of_Cardassia
http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Battle_of_Sector_001
http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/First_Battle_of_Deep_Space_9
http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Second_Battle_of_Deep_Space_9
There are new ships releasing with S7. There are several 5 man space missions coming with S7, there are brand new (and rather fun too) space patrol missions coming with S7. All of which reward you with Romulan marks, so you can progress through that system without touching ground content.
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My point was there was an episode of ground combat, its not always space battles!
What is this soppose to mean most of the time they were on away or landing team parties?
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*facepalm* Yeah that's what it means....lol :rolleyes:
You need to actually -watch- the episodes involving the Dominion War. Which is most of Seasons 6-7 of DS9. DS9 had some of the best space battles in all of Trek.