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Vesta Cannons Worth It
paxottoman
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Dual Heavy Cannons MK XII Phaser [Acc]x2 [Dmg]xlol drawing power from auxilery is very ideal for increased sustained DPS.
Although the Vesta may not be as attractive, but it would seem as though the cannons are worth it.
I will be testing DPS averages on a ship with 4 DHCs through weapon power drain, and then on cannons drawing power from Aux.
Also, if this was done for the Vesta, can we do it too for the Quad Phasers too? Currently Quads drain power from not only engines -10 but also weapons -10. Double edged fail, since well you may have already heard the arguments but lower engine power more difficult to get 45' arc on someone. Also, [Dmg]x4roflcopter is, well, exactly that, roflcopter fail.
Yes, I know it seems like I'm trying to take a mile when I've been given an inch, but it will be more reason for people to buy this item from your C-Store, so really you would be getting the 'mile'. Thanks Bran.
Although the Vesta may not be as attractive, but it would seem as though the cannons are worth it.
I will be testing DPS averages on a ship with 4 DHCs through weapon power drain, and then on cannons drawing power from Aux.
Also, if this was done for the Vesta, can we do it too for the Quad Phasers too? Currently Quads drain power from not only engines -10 but also weapons -10. Double edged fail, since well you may have already heard the arguments but lower engine power more difficult to get 45' arc on someone. Also, [Dmg]x4roflcopter is, well, exactly that, roflcopter fail.
Yes, I know it seems like I'm trying to take a mile when I've been given an inch, but it will be more reason for people to buy this item from your C-Store, so really you would be getting the 'mile'. Thanks Bran.
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VM. If the VM hits aux, youre twice as ****ed.
PaxOttomana: gawd mirror event is like fighting a tsi premade, they keep comin and comin!
*Waves engineering team and inertial dampeners flag proudly*
When you're viral'd, you're viral'd. Engines too will effect your cannons. How many times have we heard the following:
"I can't turn, my eyes are cross eyed, that and I'm viral'd"
or
"I'm viral'd, afk 5 seconds"
and my favorite
"I'm lagging, send engineering team"
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Ye true, but youre forced to use/commit ET when you dont want to, aka youre being controlled before something else nasty comes your way e.g sub nuke. When 2 systems are reliant on 1, youre very vulnerable.
PaxOttomana: gawd mirror event is like fighting a tsi premade, they keep comin and comin!
Otherwise, the lower power level will kill your overall DPS.
And you want the Quad Cannons to draw power from aux rather than engines?
In canon, it drew power from the engines. It should stay that way. The weapon comes on the Sao Paolo, and they don't have a whole lot of reason to be running high aux or sci heavy abilities. It was a warship, not meant for exploration.
Well on the MVAE, you can run weapons and aux. Since you really don't need engine power on a ship that moves just as fast as a bugship with low engine power.
So really, that particular ship will make this a successful run.
Canon? Since when was anything about this game Canon? Dudes running down ESD with a spider running after them is canon? Let's not open the canon can of worms lol.
Premades with Tholian, Cardassian, Ferengi, Jem Hadar ships is hardly 'canon' I don't see why this is any different to change.
But as I said, running high auxillery on the MVAE is possibly the more worth while thing.
I will be testing it regardless, and let you guys know if you should buy it. I do not work for Cryptic/PWE.
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wouldnt it be better to only test 3 DHCs since you can only have 3 aux ones on the vesta??
Quote of the week:
Aux cannons are now vesta restricted. FYI
"live long enough to be assimilated, resistance is futile"
For a lot though, it's an absolutly horrid combination since we'll have people treating those cannons as I WIN slots and be shooting far less powerful science/aux dependent abilities while those cannons drain the life out of that aux power. Some too will probably keep power in the weapons too further reducing the power to aux.
"We are the Borg. We will add your biological and technological distinctiveness to our own. Resistance is futile."
Sincerely,
The Cube Assimilating Your Ship Right Now
Well that's just great... They killed it now. I think this thread might undo that? Or did that happen after this thread happened? LoL I'd laugh really hard if that was the case.
"Pax got an idea, quick nerf it more" -Devs
Alright well, I guess that's that then... The ship does look nice though..
Sorry guys, I wish I could experiment with this ship and what it has to offer. Hopefully they'll unbound them cannons.
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Hull Strength: 28,000 (was 27,800)
Base Turn Rate: 12 degrees per second (was 13)
Aux Phaser Dual Heavy Cannons Mk XII [Acc]x2 [Dmg] (may only be equipped on a Multi-Mission Science Vessel) (was [Acc] [Dmg]x2)
Nerfed Turn Rate
Restricted cannons
Saves me $50
"live long enough to be assimilated, resistance is futile"
It is doable, with the proper build and component setup. You can make the science vessel DPS rather well.
Just understand, it is purposefully nerf, by Cryptic, to never equal the DPS of an escort. But it is not far behind either.
Will be very interesting to see the builds that some will come out with for this. Should be fairly exciting.
Sweet no-HP aux heals, low turn rate with the engine sucked dry, and totally light on DPS with only 3 DHC-type weapons? Man... it won't even feel OP in an STF.
http://www.stowiki.org/Phaser_Quad_Cannons
It was established a few days ago, I believe, that it was going to be restricted to the Vesta.
I had that exact same thought when talking about the Vesta to my brother last night.
That said folks, if you want to run high-weapon power, you can. There's a few Science (!) powers out there that don't rely on aux at all (VM and the suddenly ubiquitous TBR come to mind). In a 2 Aux2bat setup with a pocket RSP 2 or EWP 1 you can get a ton of crowd control without needing Aux... and oh yes, there are Danubes, too. Seriously, I've seen acrobats less flexible than this ship.
who cares, when you have +50 to looking badass who needs actual dps?
Do you even Science Bro?
Oh yeah. This game totally needs badass ranks!
My stomach is clear and my mind is full of bacon!
I would buy it if they hadn't restricted the AUX cannon to that one ship. Maybe some day, if they want to make the sale, they'll come to their senses.
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Can I stack 3 of them forward if I wanted to? or 2 + whatever else?
You can slap 3 forward or 2 whatever.
PaxOttomana: gawd mirror event is like fighting a tsi premade, they keep comin and comin!
Lol people have been doing it with the Excel for yonks dude, you're spoiled.
vids and guides and stuff
[9:52] [Zone #11] Neal@trapper1532: im a omega force shadow oprative and a maoc elite camander and here i am taking water samples
Then use beams. Don'T let some item dictate your playstyle, if you are not comfortable with it!
vids and guides and stuff
[9:52] [Zone #11] Neal@trapper1532: im a omega force shadow oprative and a maoc elite camander and here i am taking water samples
How are you suppose to to eat and pilot at eh the same time with this thing? Use to be you see an enemy going by put the ship in reverse and start leading their pass, then you reach over grab your sandwich take a bite put it down take a drink, then reach over and put the ship in forward and hit a tack skill, reach back over and grab some chips eat them and then stop turning and you should be lined up just about right behind your target.
I do that with the vesta now and just end up pointing off in weird directions