Rom ship in lockbox means no rom faction. The word of the Stahl.
As long there is a plan to make a rom faction there will be no rom ship in lockboxes. If we see them we know that the rom faction will not show up ever.
Pretty much... Unless they "cheated" on the Romulan lockbox and gave it a non-ship grand prize (ie. maybe something like multiple exotic Romulan BOs, all with unique powers) or something like Romulan redesigns of Fed/Klingon ships or a 31st century Temporal Cold War Romulan Timeship.
Now... If they did decide to reintroduce TCW Guy and give that plot a proper wrap-up, Romulan Timeships might make sense. He was intended by some on the production team to be Romulan and with the destruction of Romulus, I can see an interesting motivation, particularly if TCW factions turn out to be feuding over key events like that.
Pretty much... Unless they "cheated" on the Romulan lockbox and gave it a non-ship grand prize (ie. maybe something like multiple exotic Romulan BOs, all with unique powers) or something like Romulan redesigns of Fed/Klingon ships or a 31st century Temporal Cold War Romulan Timeship.
Now... If they did decide to reintroduce TCW Guy and give that plot a proper wrap-up, Romulan Timeships might make sense. He was intended by some on the production team to be Romulan and with the destruction of Romulus, I can see an interesting motivation, particularly if TCW factions turn out to be feuding over key events like that.
A TCW STF would rock.
How was the trip? and what do you think will be the next box if not Romulan?
Yes, it was dstahl a few months back said no d'deridex ship in a lock box, and suggested that they did not really want potential future faction ships to appear and that they probably should not have included the galor.
of course plans can and do change, but only expect the more unusual ships to appear.
Rom ship in lockbox means no rom faction. The word of the Stahl.
As long there is a plan to make a rom faction there will be no rom ship in lockboxes. If we see them we know that the rom faction will not show up ever.
Pretty much... Unless they "cheated" on the Romulan lockbox and gave it a non-ship grand prize (ie. maybe something like multiple exotic Romulan BOs, all with unique powers) or something like Romulan redesigns of Fed/Klingon ships or a 31st century Temporal Cold War Romulan Timeship.
Now... If they did decide to reintroduce TCW Guy and give that plot a proper wrap-up, Romulan Timeships might make sense. He was intended by some on the production team to be Romulan and with the destruction of Romulus, I can see an interesting motivation, particularly if TCW factions turn out to be feuding over key events like that.
A TCW STF would rock.
What an interesting idea...
Sorta puts a whole new spin on just what the whole TCW could have been really about.
Imagine the different 'Factions' of the the Future trying to 'Fix' or Keep from Being Fixed what happened to Romulus & Remus...
It could even involve trying to 'Time-Jump' across dimensions to the JJ-Trek Universe, chasing after Nero.
So many possibilities...
Meeting Daniels would be cool too.
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Smaller themed lockboxes released more often with more Lobi store emphasis (I feel like Temporal moves us that direction with the Mobius/Temporal set). Y'Know, Pakled, Husnock, First Federation, quasi-Irish Bringloidi, space hippie Catullan, etc.
I do hope we get a Abramsverse lockbox with a chance to get a Enterprise dreadnought that Alt Kirk is commanding (that thing in the spec notes is over 1800 meters long!!)
But all trends point to a Romulan box with lobi Romulan costume options, cross-faction console (feds get Siphon Drones), Romulan hybrid weapons, a Romulan ground weapon, a small prize of Mirror Escorts (PE with MVAE looks and console? Tasty) and the D'deridex grand prize.
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I've taken the liberty of copying the relevant part of this link out. It's in the second part of the two-part transcript posts if you'd like to search it down yourselves as well, about halfway down the second post.
(5:20:20 PM) dstahl: RE: D'deridex in a lockbox: That ship will be part of any future plan for a playable Romulan species and not a lockbox
I've taken the liberty of copying the relevant part of this link out. It's in the second part of the two-part transcript posts if you'd like to search it down yourselves as well, about halfway down the second post.
I read the portion, however; keep in mind that these were probably old plans for STO. With the recent comments regarding a 3rd playable faction, I do not see it coming. So folks like me who are hoping to play Romulans, shouldn't hold our breath.
I don't see a third faction being a viable option for STO. The ships should go into lock boxes in correlation to the season 7 stfs and events.
Its odd for them to place any Romulan ship on the Cstore.
Everything about season 7 spells Romulan lock box, also by the way, Cryptic does not necessarily have a decent track record in delivering on promises.
I'm going to go against the grain on this one, I think they'll eventually end up in a box.
I read the portion, however; keep in mind that these were probably old plans for STO. With the recent comments regarding a 3rd playable faction, I do not see it coming. So folks like me who are hoping to play Romulans, shouldn't hold our breath.
I don't see a third faction being a viable option for STO. The ships should go into lock boxes in correlation to the season 7 stfs and events.
Its odd for them to place any Romulan ship on the Cstore.
Everything about season 7 spells Romulan lock box, also by the way, Cryptic does not necessarily have a decent track record in delivering on promises.
I'm going to go against the grain on this one, I think they'll eventually end up in a box.
erm.. that was only a few months ago. They've pretty much said plans up through season 8 have basically been made. I don't think they'd change their course that far over 4 months.
erm.. that was only a few months ago. They've pretty much said plans up through season 8 have basically been made. I don't think they'd change their course that far over 4 months.
I hate to rehash an old argument, but they still need alot of work to do on the KDF first. In regards to what they said several months ago, I've learned NOT to take anything at face value when it comes to CRYPTIC.
Gonna play the Disciple Thomas here; I am not believing until I see it with my own eyes.
Simply put, they are not able to invest a whole lot of time in the KDF, because of the player population. Investing in the Empire is not cost effective, if thats the case, what makes you think a Rommie sub faction is around the corner (I am speaking in general of course, not directly to you).
If the Romulan vessels do not end up on a lock box, at least bring them to the CStore as a Cross faction buy.
We could get:
- a borg lockbox with assimilated iconic ship for instance.
- a breen lockbox
- an undine lockbox (provided season 8 gives us new undine missions)
- iconian lockboxes (if we get some iconian content)
- hybrid lockboxes and ships of all kind
- and for the lulz, a TRIBBLE lockbox, with panzer IV pets, since it's a recurring star trek theme.
Interesting discussion...but has anyone really thought about how a playable Romulan faction would work with the coming Romulan embassies for fleets and the Romulan reputation system? I mean why would a Romulan fleet need an embassy on the new Romulan homeworld or work to gain reputation with the Romulans?
To me, these coming changes with Season 7 hint at Cryptics future plans for playable Romulans - C-Store unlockable races (Romulan/Reman) that can be used for either Feds or KDF. Romulan ships hit the lockboxes/Lobi store with the lockbox ship being a D'deridex. Imagine the income possibilities from that?
Playable Romulans get brought into the game with the greatest of ease. PWE is happy with the income, Cryptic is happy with the income without a lot of hard work for either the KDF or the Romulans, players spend tons of cash in the C-Store to unlock the races and buy keys for the sought after Romulan ship along with a few other Romulan ships being added to the C-Store/Fleet Shipyards.
Anyone care to poke a few holes in my theory? Yes, I do know what Dan said about the D'deridex and the Galor and the KDF and PvP and STFs and STO in general. What I'm looking for is a different idea of how to bring playable Romulans into the game while keeping the faction within as much of the Romulan story as we have or will have after S7 hits.
I read the portion, however; keep in mind that these were probably old plans for STO.
Naturally. Plans change all the time, which is why I wouldn't bet the farm on no Romulan Lockboxes. But my approach to STO has always been cautious optimism.
Why do you say that? What I'm seeing is a brilliant setup for a Romulan mini-faction type deal where you level up ten levels then pick a side or something.
What I'm seeing is a brilliant setup for a Romulan mini-faction type deal where you level up ten levels then pick a side or something.
But with a playable Romulan mini-faction it requires a new interface, new racial content, new DOFFs and DOFF missions, BOFFs and several ships. Then you would need to provide for Romulan fleets to have a Romulan embassy on the new Romulan homeworld in order to grind rep with the Romulan factions!
Or will you decide to keep the playable Romulan mini-faction fleets away from enjoying the Romulan embassy content that is available to Fed/KDF fleets?
Would the Romulan/Reman fleets get embassies on Earth or Qo'nos to grind out Fed/Vulcan/Andorian/etc, etc, etc, reputation or maybe KDF reputation grind for Klingon/Gorn/Orion/etc etc etc?
Will Romulan/Reman mini-faction fleet star bases be assaulted by Romulan/Reman fleets?
Yea, doesn't sound all that logical to me either.
The "systems" in STO have to be able to be applied to all factions - doff, reputation, fleet, etc. With the course of the storyline coming in S7, I just don't see how Cryptic can bring in Romulans as a third faction without some major changes both to the game and to the story.
I'd rather wait and get a proper expansion or something. Heck I'm sure people would pay if given the option.
A free update with playable Romulans would be even better.
No lockboxes though. IF, and I mean IF the ships ever come over to Fed side for whatever reason I'd rather buy them outright than take my chances on a lucky dip thing.
But with a playable Romulan mini-faction it requires a new interface, new racial content, new DOFFs and DOFF missions, BOFFs and several ships. Then you would need to provide for Romulan fleets to have a Romulan embassy on the new Romulan homeworld in order to grind rep with the Romulan factions!
Or will you decide to keep the playable Romulan mini-faction fleets away from enjoying the Romulan embassy content that is available to Fed/KDF fleets?
Would the Romulan/Reman fleets get embassies on Earth or Qo'nos to grind out Fed/Vulcan/Andorian/etc, etc, etc, reputation or maybe KDF reputation grind for Klingon/Gorn/Orion/etc etc etc?
Will Romulan/Reman mini-faction fleet star bases be assaulted by Romulan/Reman fleets?
Yea, doesn't sound all that logical to me either.
The "systems" in STO have to be able to be applied to all factions - doff, reputation, fleet, etc. With the course of the storyline coming in S7, I just don't see how Cryptic can bring in Romulans as a third faction without some major changes both to the game and to the story.
Honestly, I see it probably as:
Romulan/Reman who starts at level 40. Plays ten levels. Defects to Feds or KDF. Has the extra option to fly Romulan ships.
Basically, it's a species bundled with a few ships and a handful of unique missions.
Probably more useful to think of it as a plus one approach to paid species, this time basically giving them a fifth trait that gives them extra dialogue options, access to themed stores, and ship options.
Imagine if they had done this with Bajorans. The idea would have been: pay to play a Bajoran. Get the Bajoran militia costume included in addition to Starfleet uniforms. Get a special store that sells Bajoran pistols. Get Bajoran ships. Then maybe non-Bajorans could get these things by buying the Bajoran expansion pack and grinding Bajoran rep.
Think of it like the species in WoW who come loaded with mounts, a few species specific quests, and other species specific things. In contrast with past species sales that were more like a costume.
I don't think a Borg lock box is in the cards - what ship could they use - not a cube - not a sphere, not a probe - that would be too confusing in an STF.
So that just leaves the Diamond - and I believe that is being used in the upcoming space "in to the hive" STF where the borg queen has a diamond.
I don't think a Borg lock box is in the cards - what ship could they use - not a cube - not a sphere, not a probe - that would be too confusing in an STF.
So that just leaves the Diamond - and I believe that is being used in the upcoming space "in to the hive" STF where the borg queen has a diamond.
Assimilated Galaxy/Negh'var. Basically, always on Borg set visuals and Borg power consoles.
Imagine if they had done this with Bajorans. The idea would have been: pay to play a Bajoran. Get the Bajoran militia costume included in addition to Starfleet uniforms. Get a special store that sells Bajoran pistols. Get Bajoran ships. Then maybe non-Bajorans could get these things by buying the Bajoran expansion pack and grinding Bajoran rep.
Think of it like the species in WoW who come loaded with mounts, a few species specific quests, and other species specific things. In contrast with past species sales that were more like a costume.
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Did they say that for sure?
Hmm when did they ever say that? Thats the only era Romulan ship I really care about. Not a huge fan of the Scimitar.
As long there is a plan to make a rom faction there will be no rom ship in lockboxes. If we see them we know that the rom faction will not show up ever.
Now... If they did decide to reintroduce TCW Guy and give that plot a proper wrap-up, Romulan Timeships might make sense. He was intended by some on the production team to be Romulan and with the destruction of Romulus, I can see an interesting motivation, particularly if TCW factions turn out to be feuding over key events like that.
A TCW STF would rock.
How was the trip? and what do you think will be the next box if not Romulan?
Yes, it was dstahl a few months back said no d'deridex ship in a lock box, and suggested that they did not really want potential future faction ships to appear and that they probably should not have included the galor.
of course plans can and do change, but only expect the more unusual ships to appear.
Exactly what I thought.
What an interesting idea...
Sorta puts a whole new spin on just what the whole TCW could have been really about.
Imagine the different 'Factions' of the the Future trying to 'Fix' or Keep from Being Fixed what happened to Romulus & Remus...
It could even involve trying to 'Time-Jump' across dimensions to the JJ-Trek Universe, chasing after Nero.
So many possibilities...
Meeting Daniels would be cool too.
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I think our best options are probably:
Borg (Look at it this way: The Borg storyline is going away for awhile)
Jem'Hadar/Dominion (We're coming up on the anniversary)
Temporal Cold War and/or Alternate Timeline (I feel like that's almost a natural progression from the Mirror stuff and Temporal boxes)
Series/Themed Lockboxes (TOS Themed, DS9 Themed, TNG Themed, etc.)
Smaller themed lockboxes released more often with more Lobi store emphasis (I feel like Temporal moves us that direction with the Mobius/Temporal set). Y'Know, Pakled, Husnock, First Federation, quasi-Irish Bringloidi, space hippie Catullan, etc.
But all trends point to a Romulan box with lobi Romulan costume options, cross-faction console (feds get Siphon Drones), Romulan hybrid weapons, a Romulan ground weapon, a small prize of Mirror Escorts (PE with MVAE looks and console? Tasty) and the D'deridex grand prize.
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I read the portion, however; keep in mind that these were probably old plans for STO. With the recent comments regarding a 3rd playable faction, I do not see it coming. So folks like me who are hoping to play Romulans, shouldn't hold our breath.
I don't see a third faction being a viable option for STO. The ships should go into lock boxes in correlation to the season 7 stfs and events.
Its odd for them to place any Romulan ship on the Cstore.
Everything about season 7 spells Romulan lock box, also by the way, Cryptic does not necessarily have a decent track record in delivering on promises.
I'm going to go against the grain on this one, I think they'll eventually end up in a box.
erm.. that was only a few months ago. They've pretty much said plans up through season 8 have basically been made. I don't think they'd change their course that far over 4 months.
I hate to rehash an old argument, but they still need alot of work to do on the KDF first. In regards to what they said several months ago, I've learned NOT to take anything at face value when it comes to CRYPTIC.
Gonna play the Disciple Thomas here; I am not believing until I see it with my own eyes.
Simply put, they are not able to invest a whole lot of time in the KDF, because of the player population. Investing in the Empire is not cost effective, if thats the case, what makes you think a Rommie sub faction is around the corner (I am speaking in general of course, not directly to you).
If the Romulan vessels do not end up on a lock box, at least bring them to the CStore as a Cross faction buy.
We could get:
- a borg lockbox with assimilated iconic ship for instance.
- a breen lockbox
- an undine lockbox (provided season 8 gives us new undine missions)
- iconian lockboxes (if we get some iconian content)
- hybrid lockboxes and ships of all kind
- and for the lulz, a TRIBBLE lockbox, with panzer IV pets, since it's a recurring star trek theme.
God, lvl 60 CW. 17k.
To me, these coming changes with Season 7 hint at Cryptics future plans for playable Romulans - C-Store unlockable races (Romulan/Reman) that can be used for either Feds or KDF. Romulan ships hit the lockboxes/Lobi store with the lockbox ship being a D'deridex. Imagine the income possibilities from that?
Playable Romulans get brought into the game with the greatest of ease. PWE is happy with the income, Cryptic is happy with the income without a lot of hard work for either the KDF or the Romulans, players spend tons of cash in the C-Store to unlock the races and buy keys for the sought after Romulan ship along with a few other Romulan ships being added to the C-Store/Fleet Shipyards.
Anyone care to poke a few holes in my theory? Yes, I do know what Dan said about the D'deridex and the Galor and the KDF and PvP and STFs and STO in general. What I'm looking for is a different idea of how to bring playable Romulans into the game while keeping the faction within as much of the Romulan story as we have or will have after S7 hits.
Put whatever.
Why do you say that? What I'm seeing is a brilliant setup for a Romulan mini-faction type deal where you level up ten levels then pick a side or something.
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But with a playable Romulan mini-faction it requires a new interface, new racial content, new DOFFs and DOFF missions, BOFFs and several ships. Then you would need to provide for Romulan fleets to have a Romulan embassy on the new Romulan homeworld in order to grind rep with the Romulan factions!
Or will you decide to keep the playable Romulan mini-faction fleets away from enjoying the Romulan embassy content that is available to Fed/KDF fleets?
Would the Romulan/Reman fleets get embassies on Earth or Qo'nos to grind out Fed/Vulcan/Andorian/etc, etc, etc, reputation or maybe KDF reputation grind for Klingon/Gorn/Orion/etc etc etc?
Will Romulan/Reman mini-faction fleet star bases be assaulted by Romulan/Reman fleets?
Yea, doesn't sound all that logical to me either.
The "systems" in STO have to be able to be applied to all factions - doff, reputation, fleet, etc. With the course of the storyline coming in S7, I just don't see how Cryptic can bring in Romulans as a third faction without some major changes both to the game and to the story.
No
No
NO
NO!
A free update with playable Romulans would be even better.
No lockboxes though. IF, and I mean IF the ships ever come over to Fed side for whatever reason I'd rather buy them outright than take my chances on a lucky dip thing.
Honestly, I see it probably as:
Romulan/Reman who starts at level 40. Plays ten levels. Defects to Feds or KDF. Has the extra option to fly Romulan ships.
Basically, it's a species bundled with a few ships and a handful of unique missions.
Probably more useful to think of it as a plus one approach to paid species, this time basically giving them a fifth trait that gives them extra dialogue options, access to themed stores, and ship options.
Imagine if they had done this with Bajorans. The idea would have been: pay to play a Bajoran. Get the Bajoran militia costume included in addition to Starfleet uniforms. Get a special store that sells Bajoran pistols. Get Bajoran ships. Then maybe non-Bajorans could get these things by buying the Bajoran expansion pack and grinding Bajoran rep.
Think of it like the species in WoW who come loaded with mounts, a few species specific quests, and other species specific things. In contrast with past species sales that were more like a costume.
So that just leaves the Diamond - and I believe that is being used in the upcoming space "in to the hive" STF where the borg queen has a diamond.
Assimilated Galaxy/Negh'var. Basically, always on Borg set visuals and Borg power consoles.
Thats... a good idea. I'm behind this.
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