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Season 7 Dev Blog #10
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Producer Steve "SalamiInferno" Ricossa, Jr. provides an overview of the upcoming Reputation System in this entry of the Season 7 News Dev Blog series.
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You should be earning xp FOR DOING THE MISSIONS and not forced to spend time and resources leveling it separately. The fleet system may work for DOFFs or the fleet missions but you're actually separating the game play from the rewards here... it doesn't make sense.
Why take marks, use them for projects, and use projects to make XP? It's still stupidly complicated compared to what it should be.
The only reason to structure the system this way is to slow the release of content over time. It works in large group projects, but in this case you're intentionally slowing individual player's progress, and I cant think of a single good reason to do that. If we want to grind STFs and Romulan space there should be no reason to prevent it.
The system works for hands off activities, but not something the player will be interacting with on a regular basis. Please, reconsider.
Although this Blog was posted by Mr Ricossa, Jr., I think it should be the Captain of the ship: Mr Stahl, who responds to comments.
Please people keep things civil if you want to receive any kind of feedback response.
And no I don't work for Cryptic now - lol - as some people have claimed over the last few days.
Or is it going to be like the trait respec that everyone's been asking for since launch, but we've still failed to receive.
Don't worry Levi3, there are some of us that do enjoy your activism.
As for the reputation system, I'll stick with being "curious" about how it plays out and how future seasons weave around these recent system changes.
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Why?
I mean that seriously, where's the reasoning behind the request (other than, understandably, for PVPers to get something)
That said bung some omega marks in Kerrat would make some sense and give the PVPers...something.
That was confirmed a few days back by Branflakes elsewhere
Realized I had no constructive criticism nor a positive response to the blog.
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seriously guys STOP it with the 5 Second buffs
you can scratch off 1 - 2 seconds of that for latency alone, 1 more for moving the mouse to the next button and 3 seconds for activating the first power that gets buffed by this and SWOOP your buff has expired before you even fired a shot.
come on, minimum for anything should be 10 - 15 seconds.
The idea that your captain will never fully max out all possible gear, reputation, skills, etc. really makes a lot of sense, and I think adds to the draw of returning to play.
On the down side, it means that you don't get to max out your captain in every conceivable way, and this irritates a lot of players. Of course then people get bored once they max everything out and complain that there's nothing to do. So it's kind of a lose-lose scenario.
Unfortunately any long-term change to a game that takes something that was easy and makes it more difficult will create a maelstrom of discontent, but I think it's a worthy trade-off if you get a more interesting system as a result.
I think the only real issue here is resource quantity needed to play through the system. If it is too high then it will seriously discourage players from starting up or working on alts, and indications are this may be the case with the current design.
Somebody could go a long way towards making players happier by cutting dilithium costs on this system by say 20% before it goes live. The system progression is still there and players will feel like at least some of their concerns have been heard.
RnD and upgrade needs less RNG. Less lottery. Something has to change.
My biggest concern is that these changes is that it removes any incentives for playing the STFs. Once a player has the nessisary marks to start a reputation 'mission' theres no reason to play again or put in an extra effort.
Granted, there is dilithium and gear rewards, but they've NEVER been a proper incentive. Lets face it, almost everything rewards dilithium and there's a daily limit and you would be hard pressed to find ANY gear that would sell for much more then it's vendor cost on the exchange unless it's MKXII purple. It's turning the missions from repeatable mission, chance of reward to: Show up, do forced grind, pick up reward at end of the week.
Your odds of picking up something good may SUCK with the current system but there's no limit to how much, or little, effort you can put in. If I wanted to spend 3 days straight trying to get a MKXII drop I could, the new system prevents that.
In addition, the missions them selves are going to have an extra cost... which is an extra cost that we have to deal with in addition to the Starbase and Embassy expenses going on in the fleets.
This is the same reason I HATED the S6 content released for the starbases. Instead of offering rewards for doing the new missions, they were introduced as a forced grind required to do the starbase projects. They may be entertaining, but when all the projects are filled when I get on... there's no reason for me to play them. I've played consistantly since STO was released and I have to say, I really had no interest in the new content with S6 because of this.
I dont enjoy running around looking for what is essentially 'Vendor trash' or wasting my time and EDCs trying to get the proper DOFFs from the exchange when I cant get them from recruitment missions. It's not why I play the game. I find it insulting that after running the STFs since before there was a borg set to get, it'll be FORCED to deal with it in order to have access to the endgame loot. It wont matter how many runs I do, or how effective I am, I didnt file the paperwork so no one cares.
Even from a Fluff perspective this system makes no sense to me. I find it extremely strange to think that destroying entire borg and/or tholian fleets has no effect on my standing but sending someone to show off a shiney peice of metal does? Really?
I know the architecture is convienent, pre built from the DOFF and Starbase system, but if the current version of the reputation system gets implemented it'll completely kill the game for me. I'm not going to bother playing when EVERY end game system is time sensitive and I'm required to collect trivial things to progress with. I'm ok doing that with the DOFFs and the starbase, I dont need to do that for every mission.
There are better ways to implement the system then slapping a pre-existing system on top and calling it progress. I'm honestly not sure why you wouldn't reward Reputation after completing an STF or Romulan event. At least people could get credit and progress for completing the content and not be limited by what projects they're running. You could still give some XP for completing projects, but dont make it the primary (and definately not the ONLY) way of progressing.
RnD and upgrade needs less RNG. Less lottery. Something has to change.
I would presume though that as you go up you would unlock part of a story to it all though. That would be the only downside is if there was nothing that you unlock that tells a story. Otherwise its just about higher stats to try to enjoy it at a faster or easier pace.
+100 sci stats for 5 seconds... what a fat lot of good that will do me... Between having to click the powers 3 or 4 times just to get them to activate or having them fire off like 5 seconds after I clicked them... it is useless. Fix the UI lag first please then introduce stuff that requires excellent timing.
So how is this reputation thing going to jive with that? Specifically, the special instances on New Romulus. Don't get me wrong, I'm all for restricted areas that you have to open up, but I want to play with my friends and help them (and me) earn Romulan Marks together.
I mean, Defera (on the Omega side) encourages/requires team play with the medium and hard missions in each section.
Teams. They're cool.
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The costs of leveling in the rep system are cheap enough from the looks of things, but actually buying gear will be a whole other ballgame.
do you know exactly, how much dil one will need to reach Tier5 (if we don't count any gear buying)?
RnD and upgrade needs less RNG. Less lottery. Something has to change.
Bear in mind it's a minimum 2 month grind due to the 40 hour completion time of each project.
thanks 4 the info by the way.
RnD and upgrade needs less RNG. Less lottery. Something has to change.
any info on prizes? someone said 80k dill for 1.st tier stuff - for ONE weapon there?
as i know them, they like it geometric, so that would make... too drunk to count.
Ok, so when is the Season 7 gonna hit and when do we get a playable Romulan faction?
This new colony are just a few separatists weak in their minds - cause as we know the new homeworld is on Rator III.
Reputation system - i like it. It is a good idea, albeit the "projects" can be a little annoying and will become even more annoying when there will be no "get them for free" doffs from the academy missions.. as i have read somewhere on this forum today (announcements)
Agreed, it's probably got a stupidly long cooldown as well.
Any "click power" that's going to take up a slot in your power tray needs to be worth something.
Yeah you can. I personally wouldn't though.
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