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Will STO be here after season 7?
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I know that the majority of Star Trek TV series only ran for 7 seasons. Does this apply to STO?
Will there be some new version STO.TNG or something to take its place?
Will there be some new version STO.TNG or something to take its place?
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No there will not be. The game is slated to shut down December 21st.
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OP, I am curious what makes you doubt STO's staying power past S7?
IMO, the only reason Star Trek shows end after 7 seasons is that there is nowhere else for the writers to go or the show has been going for so long that it's time for a natural end and to put another series on the air, and as this isn't the case for STO (at least from a Mission Content viewpoint) it won't be going anywhere soon
Let's look at some stuff:
TNG, Voyager, and DS9 all each lasted for 7 seasons each. Enterprise and TOS lasted for 4 and 3 respectively, for a total of 7 as well.
There were 6 movies for the TOS area, the 7th bridging that and TNG. The next three were all TNG. And the latest is the one from 2009 for eleven movies total.
So...what does all that mean in comparison to the game?
I could give a long spiel on what I think it could mean, but that'd be silly. So I'll stick with this:
Ending at season 7 means that the game would be following canon, however slightly, and as we all know, this game doesn't like to do that at all.
That, or it's just gonna be around for awhile most likely until PWE tires of it.
I'm pretty sure They are already planning stuff for this game, to coincide and tie into, the movies release...
(granted it probably won't be anything major, but They'd be foolish NOT to take advantage of all the Trek hype and hoopla that'll be going on.)
Somewhere around Season 8 would be my guess...
I could even see them attempting to negotiate a deal to add some kind of FE or quick mission, that takes the player into and back from, the JJ-Trek Universe for a quick adventure...
Though more likely, it might only be a uniform, or a starship variant or some fancy console.
So NO, Season 7 Will Not be the end of STO.
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of course it doesn't.
there is a world of difference between a tv show and a computer game. seasons in game are just a name. they could call them updates or patches, or anything they like. it has nothing to do with how long the shows ran for. they are not going to close the game down and then just make a new one.
They bought CRYPTIC for 50... That dosen't nessacarily mean that STO was of interest to them... merely that it was a bonus game where they could rip off naive people.
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At anyrate, No... The Devs have several times mentioned Seasons 8 and 9 for several other projects. And as far as I can see, the storyline with the Iconians are not going to be finished anytime soon.
Also, a season of television is a year of content. A "season" in STO is once every 3 months or so, and has more game elements than plot.
Another thing to consider is that Television series have a definite ending when the writers decide that the story is finished and there is nothing left to tell. An MMO ends when the Devs. publishers, and the gamers themselves decide that the game has run it's course and the server is shut down.
Don't worry. Still plenty of Klingons to Send to Sto'va'kor
Take from that what you will.
You shouldn't worry about season 7, it's just a major patch number. But here is some food for thought if you like to speculate:
STO is almost running out of famous and interesting canon ships. Most of the well-known ones are already in the c-store. The lockbox ships can't be any random ship seen in the shows. It has to be related to a major faction or race; I'm not sure people would try to get a pakled ship for instance. They may have 10 lockboxes opportunities or so left. The devs can decide to raise the level cap to sell new ships, which means they can make some money for a few more months. But what could happen after that, when the IP is dried out of interesting content?
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By that comparison, STO has had it's season 7, 2 years ago, since pretty much everything is re-runs theese days.
Chris from STOked claimed PWE bought STO, Champs, and Neverwinter for the tech as opposed to buying them with any serious thought of making a profit off them; hence, he claimed, the reason that since the PWE takeover was finalized, the only content updates we have really seen have been lockboxes and grind. He also claimed that STO is considered an 'R&D project only' per their most recent financial releases.
I believe TNG set the pattern because the actors had a 6 year contract and some of them were interested in moving on, so they added one more season. This became the "standard" for DS9 and Voyager, but when Ent rolled around, due to numerous blunderings and the aftermath of Voyager, interest pretty much tanked, ergo ending it relatively early.
As per STO sticking around I think it's got staying power. I've heard fairly consistent doomsday reports during my time here. Clearly, none have panned out, at least not yet; the game still seems to be chugging along. I still hope that the lack of content is something that's still being addressed, and what we've seen so far is essentially the result of Atari's poor running of Cryptic in general combined with several other major bumps.
I will say that they ARE "running out" of ships, so I'm pretty sure they're working on other ways to monetize the game in the long term. That said, a Pakled ship might draw more attention than you'd think; I would bet a lot of people would have said 'who would want a Ferengi ship' in March, yet we have D'Koras going for obscene prices on the Exchange. (Besides, they are smart. They make things go.) I've wondered about this myself. And some of the things they've done to monetize the game will probably come around to bite them later.
I would not, personally, put too much faith in what one podcaster says; Chris did leave STOked, after all. While he might have "insider" information, he might not, as well, and even "insider" information may not be accurate. That said, he could be entirely accurate; there's no way to know at this time.
However, as I don't particularly want to get into doomsday speculation, and hope STO sticks around for a long time to come, I'll just end by saying that the run of the shows, the number of the "season" of the game, and the run of STO have nothing to do with one another, and ultimately no one here REALLY knows what's going on behind the scenes to a large extent, so basically all of this speculation is just that - speculation.
Of course it wouldn't stop the devs from referring to later patches as movies.
The IP will never run out of interesting content simply due to its nature. sure, they are going to have to create their own ships, their own uniforms at some point but they have been doing that since day 1 to a degree, so its not exactly like its going to be a problem and its not even a bad thing. new ships may not be iconic but they will still sell.
star trek has evolved for the last 4 decades because people kept making new ships and races.
Well continued lack of regular content that is not a lockbox since going F2P certainly makes it look like PW have no intrest in investing in this game....the longer this goes on the more it becomes apparent.
At this rate we might see a season 8 round about December 2013.....if we are lucky. lol
The 1 reason that TNG ended in season 7 : Money!
The actors - particularly Patrick were asking for extreme amounts of money to carry it into an 8 season - he was entertaining movie offers and asking for millions per episode.
It was more profitable for them to just shut it down and run it in syndicated re-runs then to carry on with an 8th season
If the actors had gone with the same salary as before then season 8 of TNG would have been done.
It's always about money - story writers and producers can always come up with new stuff if they want to.
As with STO it's the same how long it lasts is due to 1 thing : money
F2P launched in jan, there was a FE series in feb, plus some smaller events in march and april, season 6 was in july, season season 7 is next month.
so with a 3-4 month gap between major updates, why exactly do you think season 8 will be over a year away?
They are making experiments for PW on the western maket with Cryptic existing games. That's just a guess though but it's rather blatant: pay to win items, how to make the gambling system looking acceptable for the playerbase, how to adapt time-gating system to make people play on specific hours for a specific amount of time, what kind of farming we like, etc. You see it's a R&D project since they made a lot of changes on these systems.
This game will exist as long as they have new stupid ideas to try out here, and as long as it makes some profit, so I don't mind if it's just "a R&D project", as long as I can play this project. I don't mind either if PW's only goal is to publish a western version of their "LOLOL super fantasy game online". As long as research has to be made STO will survive, in this perspective.
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