Id love to see the Pathfinder Class in game. I used to do sims with Federation Sim Fleet and I remember fondly using this ship as the background to our Roleplaying.
Obviously another my ship is bigger and better then yours design. But the overall visual design is very appealing to me.
That's actually not that bad of a kitbash, it looks rather nice actually.
This looks a lot like the 1000-day veteran reward Starfleet ship. Or was that the point...
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
Former/Cryptic Name: Captain_Hans_Langsdorff
Founding member, Special Service Squadron
"Fear God and Dread Nought." First Sea Lord, Adm. Jacky Fisher
Armament
■18 Type XV Phaser Arrays:
■10 Class III Pulse Phaser Turrets: 165,000 TW output
■2 Rapid Fire Quantum Torpedo Tubes
■4 Pulse Fire Quantum Torpedo Tubes
■3 Type IV Burst Fire Photon Torpedo Tubes: 1,200 rounds
I never viewed the Nebula as a Kitbash, because I view Kitbashes as ships created from different pieces of other ships to make a new ship. The Nebula is just a restructured Galaxy with new original parts (like the Sensor Array). The Miranda and Centaur are the same as well.
Why are the windows on that "Excalibur" class so much bigger than the windows on the Sovereign? As though they took a ship Sovereign's size, and just made it bigger for no reason?
Why are the windows on that "Excalibur" class so much bigger than the windows on the Sovereign? As though they took a ship Sovereign's size, and just made it bigger for no reason?
/questionanswered
It's a STO ship - the decks are 25 meters high instead of 3.
Serious answer: creator fails at inverse square law.
The page says it was originally the size of the Sovereign and they increased its mass by 50%... which somehow increased linear dimensions 200% based on its new length...
Inverse square law will eat your children if you try something like that. Double one dimension, square two, cube three - that's an 800% increase in volume (and assuming approximately the same density mass), not 50%.
On the same note, the crew count is just sad for a ship this size. The Galaxy is already way below the space/crew curve compared to other Star Trek ships, and this thing is far enough off that the Galaxy isn't even an outlier anymore. To maintain the space/crew ratio of the Sovereign, it'd need a crew of 6400-8000.
I never viewed the Nebula as a Kitbash, because I view Kitbashes as ships created from different pieces of other ships to make a new ship. The Nebula is just a restructured Galaxy with new original parts (like the Sensor Array). The Miranda and Centaur are the same as well.
Sorry, but Ex Astris is just another fan site with their own set of opinions. So basically you are countering my opinion, with someone elses opinion. :rolleyes:
If you think the Miranda and Nebula or whatever are Kitbashes, then that's what you believe. But I literally take the term "kitbashing" with Star Trek ships as literally mix-matching parts of different ships to create a new one.
I'd like to see a quick way for ship designers to submit a design for a ship and hand over the rights for the ship to cryptic, maybe with a significant stipend if the ship is used. The designer gets to name it(if the name is appropriate) and they get their name put in the description of the ship as its designer. Something like a year round(next enterprise) contest.
This would likely help to fill in the obvious gaps in many MANY race's ships.
I'd like to see a quick way for ship designers to submit a design for a ship and hand over the rights for the ship to cryptic, maybe with a significant stipend if the ship is used. The designer gets to name it(if the name is appropriate) and they get their name put in the description of the ship as its designer. Something like a year round(next enterprise) contest.
This would likely help to fill in the obvious gaps in many MANY race's ships.
The term "kit-bash" is a behind-the-scenes term used to describe a ship or a station created by the production staff from already existing parts of other ship, and station studio models, and/or additional model kits (not necessarily Star Trek-related). Kit-bashing has been a common method for creating filming models in the science fiction genre, such as in the movie Alien, where they served as the hero models. In Star Trek, however, kit-bash models served primarily as (deep) background elements, the method lending itself for quick and cheap assembly when additional elements were required in a very short time.
So if you want the view the Miranda and such as a Kitbash, who am I to stop you. After all I said it was my opinion a few posts ago.
Basically, it was the same as the original TOS Connie with the glowing sensor dish instead of the one with the antenna. I believe there were some other minor alterations (the secondary hull was more rounded, as it ended up on the final model), but not a great deal.
As I say, it was something the modellers came up with and dubbed the Excelsior class. As it predates all the other versions, I tend to think of it as the most authentic version (though still not canon).
Well I'll have to look at it. Sounds promising if we could mix match the Consitution and Refit section parts in the starship modeler.
Comments
Anyway, was very cool. Shame that it won't ever appear in the game.
http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/USS_Excalibur_%28NCC-1664%29
and this one
http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/USS_Excalibur_%28NCC-26517%29
This is what you posted.
http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Sovereign_class
USS WARRIOR NCC 1720 Commanding Officer
Star Trek Gamers
They are not that are actual models the ones we use in game are kitbashes.
sorry for dble post.
USS WARRIOR NCC 1720 Commanding Officer
Star Trek Gamers
You two are my new favourite people.
That's actually not that bad of a kitbash, it looks rather nice actually.
Actually only a few are Kitbashes.
New Oreleans
Springfield
Challenger
Niagra
Yeager
Elkins
Curry
Freedom
The rest are either original or modified of an original model.
Nebula.......
Former/Cryptic Name: Captain_Hans_Langsdorff
Founding member, Special Service Squadron
"Fear God and Dread Nought." First Sea Lord, Adm. Jacky Fisher
That real "Super Battleship" Class, but have others informations :
■Comissioned: 2382-
■Crew: 1,650
■Mass: 7,432,000 metric tons
■Role: Battleship/Explorer
Dimensions
■Length: 2,100m
■Width: 863m
■Height: 295m
■Decks: 78
Armament
■18 Type XV Phaser Arrays:
■10 Class III Pulse Phaser Turrets: 165,000 TW output
■2 Rapid Fire Quantum Torpedo Tubes
■4 Pulse Fire Quantum Torpedo Tubes
■3 Type IV Burst Fire Photon Torpedo Tubes: 1,200 rounds
Defenses
■Regenerative Shields: 7,875,000 TJ capacity
■22cm Ablative Armor
Warp Speeds
■Class utilizes quantum slipstream drive.
http://sgvst.wikia.com/wiki/Excalibur_Class
-satisfy their megalomania
-compensate for obvious short...comings
I never viewed the Nebula as a Kitbash, because I view Kitbashes as ships created from different pieces of other ships to make a new ship. The Nebula is just a restructured Galaxy with new original parts (like the Sensor Array). The Miranda and Centaur are the same as well.
/questionanswered
It's a STO ship - the decks are 25 meters high instead of 3.
Serious answer: creator fails at inverse square law.
The page says it was originally the size of the Sovereign and they increased its mass by 50%... which somehow increased linear dimensions 200% based on its new length...
Inverse square law will eat your children if you try something like that. Double one dimension, square two, cube three - that's an 800% increase in volume (and assuming approximately the same density mass), not 50%.
On the same note, the crew count is just sad for a ship this size. The Galaxy is already way below the space/crew curve compared to other Star Trek ships, and this thing is far enough off that the Galaxy isn't even an outlier anymore. To maintain the space/crew ratio of the Sovereign, it'd need a crew of 6400-8000.
Ex-Astris disagrees.
Sorry, but Ex Astris is just another fan site with their own set of opinions. So basically you are countering my opinion, with someone elses opinion. :rolleyes:
If you think the Miranda and Nebula or whatever are Kitbashes, then that's what you believe. But I literally take the term "kitbashing" with Star Trek ships as literally mix-matching parts of different ships to create a new one.
It is a criuser not a BB and can support cannons look at my link.
USS WARRIOR NCC 1720 Commanding Officer
Star Trek Gamers
This would likely help to fill in the obvious gaps in many MANY race's ships.
Sorry, but Cryptic can't legally do that.
You should actually be using this link:
http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Studio_model#Kitbash
1. It's fanfiction. So it isn't. Even in the fictional Star Trek univerese it's fictional.
2. I was referring to the "other" fanfiction stats the person above me linked to:
http://sgvst.wikia.com/wiki/Excalibur_Class
Well I'll have to look at it. Sounds promising if we could mix match the Consitution and Refit section parts in the starship modeler.