Lawyers don't usually admit to being lawyers because they don't want to include disclaimers with every post stating they're not giving legal advice in the post.
STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
Got to the first entry, saw how hilariously wrong it was, didn't bother with the rest of the article. The writer can't be bothered to learn the rather simple difference between gambling and lockboxes. It's not a "twisted yoga lesson of logic." It's as simple as this:
Lockboxes always give you something. Gambling doesn't.
Where the yoga logic comes in is when the lockbox = gambling crowd start trying to argue past this.
Or they make you think you are getting something when the item is actually worthless or little value. The trick is not what you get at the lower parts of the loot table, but the big prizes that have a tiny drop rate. So you spend more on "just one more key" trying to get the bigger prize. MMO's have been doing this for a long time, but now it involves real money. You don't open boxes for a low tier item, you open them to have a shot at the big prize.
Even if you don't agree, definitions change and I expect the term gambling to be modified in the coming years to cover the current workarounds applied by gaming companies to circumvent any laws. The process has started already.
You can throw as many insults and derogatory posts as you want. They won't work.
I should point out that you are able to use lockboxes without spending a cent of real money. in fact I almost never have to buy keys in the C-store. You can very easily buy all the keys you need on the exchange.
On the contrary, people are quite entitled to their opinions. You are free to defend lockboxes and posters in this thread have in fact posted some useful information about them (shame not all want to read it eh....?) Prime example, I now know how to remove the pop-up messages about Orb Weaver ships thanks to replies on here.
But, whilst you are correct in areas of the lockbox scheme being improved such as providing a constant reward in the form of Lobi Crystals, it still doesn't look like an honest enough scheme and my distrust of them is not confined only to STO. There are some downright awful lockbox schemes out there and companies really can't be trusted to run them, especially without regulation.
I also want to see efforts placed into new content. Again, I mentioned I am willing to pay money towards the game, but there is nothing worth paying for right now! Virtual keys are not on my shopping list.
have you ever played a card game? like magic.. or pokemon. if yes ithe lock boxs are the same thing. you can get something realy cool or some thing usefall.
Plus, the law specifies gambling as a game which awards money, or "money's worth".
It doesn't pay out in real world money, so, I guess it depends on how much the Crown of the United Kingdom values imaginary spaceships.
Actually, there IS a real world value to every item in the game.
Since there are C-Store items available on the exchange, a few simple equations shows the exchange rate of Zen to EC per item.
The average of 8 C-store items comes to 7,562.5 EC per Zen.
I looked at Caitian BOffs, Ferasan Boffs, Fluidic Space Tribbles, Polytrinic and Eisilum Hortas, Sehlat Cubs, Targs, and Keys. Keys was the ONLY item to have an emense sampling of prices. Leaving me to believe the price of Keys gives the more accurate number.
Based on Keys alone, the exchange rate varies between 10,000 and 11,000 EC per Zen.
Zen in the C-Store sells at $5.00 for 500z, $10.00 for 1,000z, $20.00 for 2,000.
Thus the Exchange rate of dollars to Zen is $0.01 for 1z.
So, with an exchange rate of 10,500 EC per Zen, simple math shows that Temporal Science Vessels (at the time of this post) selling for 78,000,000 EC is worth $74.29.
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Every few months some idiot newbie to the forums makes some thread about legal action against PWE or Cryptic over lockboxes.
Are your lives so pathetic and meaningless that you're going to waste all this energy over something so unimportant?
Seriously, get a life and stop playing video games if they get you this worked up over nothing.
There are way more important issues on this planet to spend precious energy on.
Lockboxes always give you something. Gambling doesn't.
Where the yoga logic comes in is when the lockbox = gambling crowd start trying to argue past this.
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Even if you don't agree, definitions change and I expect the term gambling to be modified in the coming years to cover the current workarounds applied by gaming companies to circumvent any laws. The process has started already.
You can throw as many insults and derogatory posts as you want. They won't work.
Ha. I plead the 5th.
Yes, they won't work.
Because people who refuse to accept that thier argument is flawed also refuse to accept any criticism of the defense of their flawed arguments.
Its the vicious circle of the I-am-always-right-despite-evidence-to-the-contrary forum poster.
But, whilst you are correct in areas of the lockbox scheme being improved such as providing a constant reward in the form of Lobi Crystals, it still doesn't look like an honest enough scheme and my distrust of them is not confined only to STO. There are some downright awful lockbox schemes out there and companies really can't be trusted to run them, especially without regulation.
I also want to see efforts placed into new content. Again, I mentioned I am willing to pay money towards the game, but there is nothing worth paying for right now! Virtual keys are not on my shopping list.
Since there are C-Store items available on the exchange, a few simple equations shows the exchange rate of Zen to EC per item.
The average of 8 C-store items comes to 7,562.5 EC per Zen.
I looked at Caitian BOffs, Ferasan Boffs, Fluidic Space Tribbles, Polytrinic and Eisilum Hortas, Sehlat Cubs, Targs, and Keys. Keys was the ONLY item to have an emense sampling of prices. Leaving me to believe the price of Keys gives the more accurate number.
Based on Keys alone, the exchange rate varies between 10,000 and 11,000 EC per Zen.
Zen in the C-Store sells at $5.00 for 500z, $10.00 for 1,000z, $20.00 for 2,000.
Thus the Exchange rate of dollars to Zen is $0.01 for 1z.
So, with an exchange rate of 10,500 EC per Zen, simple math shows that Temporal Science Vessels (at the time of this post) selling for 78,000,000 EC is worth $74.29.
There's your real world value!
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