If the Vesta does indeed come with dual cannon capability, then she will have to have a very similar turn radius as the Titan, or she will just be another lolboat like the Gal-X is with dual cannons...
I welcome another science ship, preferably with at least a lt cmdr tac station instead of the eng stations as on the Nebula & D'Kyr.
Massive amounts of people flying around in the New Vesta and quite a few Flying around in the Wells as a 1k vet award - and a handfull of KDF players flying around in a new ship - while all the rest have no hope of getting a new one for a long while - lots of happy KDF players in Sept I expect!
highly doubt you'll see 'massive' ammounts of vesta , hardly anyone knows what it is :rolleyes:
So true, I had to look it up just to see what it was. I never heard of it until a few told of it on this game.
As for me getting one when it comes out. I don't like the looks of it from what pics I saw on other trek sites. And I'm waiting on a better ship I been waiting for. Like the Ambassador, New Orleans, or Niagara.
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The majority of people buying it will be fans who currently use T5 Science ships. The Intrepid R and Luna are popular because they have decent turn rates. As large as the Vesta is it will end up being a slow-turning Science ship like the Nebula. That's a turn-off to a lot of players.
STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
Yeah. I used the same line when the Nebula was released, long, long ago.
STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
would be nice if it gets a decent turnrate , but im not so sure , its a couple meters shy of a sovereign in length , so unless they give a turn rate like the excelsior , those cannons may not see much use
would be nice if it gets a decent turnrate , but im not so sure , its a couple meters shy of a sovereign in length , so unless they give a turn rate like the excelsior , those cannons may not see much use
Yeah. I think people who want to use a slow-turning cannon ship will go with the Galaxy Dreadnought due to it's 8 weapon slots. The Science captains who want a slow-turning Science ship probably gravitate toward the Carriers now.
STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
Yeah. I think people who want to use a slow-turning cannon ship will go with the Galaxy Dreadnought due to it's 8 weapon slots. The Science captains who want a slow-turning Science ship probably gravitate toward the Carriers now.
well doesnt bother me so much as ill be running 4 phaser beam arrays , tholian torp forwards , tricobalt torp back , same as my other science ships
would be nice to have an escort build on a science ship though , just for the novelty value alone
If they give the Vesta a turn rate of about ten that would be nice. Currently, the fastest-turning Starfleet cruiser is the Excelsior with a turn rate of 8. The massive Negh'var gets 9 and the Vor'cha 10, so...some kind of mashup between science and cruiser or science and escort would be neat. Something like the Recon Science Vessel but maybe with a slightly lower turn rate and more versatility (universal BOFF slot?).
Anyhow, I am looking forward to it, and will probably buy it upon release, just like I bought the Regent. I hope they have a new KDF C-store ship in the works...it's just been waaaay too long.
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If they give the Vesta a turn rate of about ten that would be nice. Currently, the fastest-turning Starfleet cruiser is the Excelsior with a turn rate of 8. The massive Negh'var gets 9 and the Vor'cha 10, so...some kind of mashup between science and cruiser or science and escort would be neat. Something like the Recon Science Vessel but maybe with a slightly lower turn rate and more versatility (universal BOFF slot?).
Anyhow, I am looking forward to it, and will probably buy it upon release, just like I bought the Regent. I hope they have a new KDF C-store ship in the works...it's just been waaaay too long.
I don't see what the KDF is complaining about - how does the Negh'var which is same lenght of Sov but 2x as wide - have a turn of 9? That thing is a monster and turns better than anything the Fed crusiers have.
I don't see what the KDF is complaining about - how does the Negh'var which is same lenght of Sov but 2x as wide - have a turn of 9? That thing is a monster and turns better than anything the Fed crusiers have.
I've been wondering this myself. Those things are massive! I'm okay with Klingons having an edge somewhere, but not when it seems to break canon or physics.
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I've been wondering this myself. Those things are massive! I'm okay with Klingons having an edge somewhere, but not when it seems to break canon or physics.
Mass itself is not the issue.
It's what it's used for.
Example would be the real-life (yes I know some people hate RL examples) R-Type Battleships (Revenge class) and Battlecruisers (Renown class).
I've picked those two because the Renowns were basically slightly stretched Revenge hulls.
So the Renowns were a few meters longer and even a few thousand tons heavier at full load...and nearly 50% faster.
The reason is that the Renowns had far less armor and devoted a far greater percentag of their mass to propulsion.
Since in Star Trek the impulse engines are actually verctorized engines that are used for maneuvering my guess is the Klingons devote a lot of their volume to propulsion than their Federation counterparts.
Who devote their volume to guest quarters the size of my appartment.
My personal thought on the matter is that the Negh'var we have in this game has little to do with the Negh'var from DS9 and more with the more agile version we saw in "All good Things".
That thing had a rather impressive acceleration.
Federation cruisers are dual role starships. they are both explorer and military ships and excel at both. Please stop saying silly stuff.
If you remember the episode of TNG called Yesterday's Enterprise you remember that the Federation was losing that war against the Klingons. Why? Probably, in part, because the KDF builds warships while the Federation builds Exploration ships.
STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
I have to agree , likening starfleet to the kdf is even sillier :rolleyes:
with the exception of maybe the defiant , prometheus and a couple game only ships , all starfleet ships carry weapons designed for defence .wheras all klingon ships have cannons for example ...
Star Fleet had ships mainly for exploration. However they was equipped to defend themselves. As at times you will encounter hostile situations. Just like any Away Team, they usually always pack a weapon. You never know what you might run into. Over the years they made improvements on weapons and defenses. However it wasn't until the Borg showed up and the heavy defeat at Wolf 359. Then that got the attention that their usual set up of ships wasn't equipped to deal with that kind of threat. That is when they started to develop ships to deal with the threat. And the Defiant was the first of Federation's warship. Later the Dominion War started and this really showed they needed some kind of ships to deal with threats. As the Defiant and new similar ships proved it. This is going by the shows. However going by the the books, they did mess around with "Dreadnoughts" using 3 nacelles and such. But most of them never made it to full production.
Star Fleet has always been more exploration driven. Now the KDF, well they was battle driven. Look at their ships and how their crew is full of warriors or soldiers.
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Whats the point....not much to do at level cap, i guess you can fly around a say "look at my bright shiny new ship" but when it comes down to it does anyone else really care.
And if the KDF folks complain its because they have alot to complain about (or is that little to complain about literally). The feds just got a new cruiser vesta is completely unnecessary and (sorry about this) not very nice looking either IMO.
Whats the point....not much to do at level cap, i guess you can fly around a say "look at my bright shiny new ship" but when it comes down to it does anyone else really care.
And if the KDF folks complain its because they have alot to complain about (or is that little to complain about literally). The feds just got a new cruiser vesta is completely unnecessary and (sorry about this) not very nice looking either IMO.
I hope people will remember that the Vesta will not be a "god ship" in STO. Balance trumps [soft] canon. Your Galaxy-X's phaser lance didn't annihilate Negh'Vars and your transphasic torpedoes won't one-shot a Borg Cube. The Vesta will be just this: a nice model, a science vessel (with presumably a different boff lineup than other ships), and a special console. So please, do not expect an "I win" vessel.
I hope people will remember that the Vesta will not be a "god ship" in STO. Balance trumps [soft] canon. Your Galaxy-X's phaser lance didn't annihilate Negh'Vars and your transphasic torpedoes won't one-shot a Borg Cube. The Vesta will be just this: a nice model, a science vessel (with presumably a different boff lineup than other ships), and a special console. So please, do not expect an "I win" vessel.
But... but... but... If I'm going to grind all month to get it for free it MUST BE I WIN!
STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
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I welcome another science ship, preferably with at least a lt cmdr tac station instead of the eng stations as on the Nebula & D'Kyr.
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Massive amounts of people flying around in the New Vesta and quite a few Flying around in the Wells as a 1k vet award - and a handfull of KDF players flying around in a new ship - while all the rest have no hope of getting a new one for a long while - lots of happy KDF players in Sept I expect!
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U.S.S. Sheffield N.C.C. 92016
I think different - but regardless - the Vesta is completely new - 100% - unlike the Regent which is basically just a re-skin
So this will get noticed
nyuck-nyuck-nyuck
So true, I had to look it up just to see what it was. I never heard of it until a few told of it on this game.
As for me getting one when it comes out. I don't like the looks of it from what pics I saw on other trek sites. And I'm waiting on a better ship I been waiting for. Like the Ambassador, New Orleans, or Niagara.
USS Casinghead NCC 92047 launched 2350
Fleet Admiral Stowe - Dominion War Vet.
Was that pun intended?
lol vesta will be in the store
Rear Admiral , Engineering Division
U.S.S. Sheffield N.C.C. 92016
Rear Admiral , Engineering Division
U.S.S. Sheffield N.C.C. 92016
So the joke has re-turned.
well doesnt bother me so much as ill be running 4 phaser beam arrays , tholian torp forwards , tricobalt torp back , same as my other science ships
would be nice to have an escort build on a science ship though , just for the novelty value alone
Rear Admiral , Engineering Division
U.S.S. Sheffield N.C.C. 92016
Anyhow, I am looking forward to it, and will probably buy it upon release, just like I bought the Regent. I hope they have a new KDF C-store ship in the works...it's just been waaaay too long.
Former/Cryptic Name: Captain_Hans_Langsdorff
Founding member, Special Service Squadron
"Fear God and Dread Nought." First Sea Lord, Adm. Jacky Fisher
I don't see what the KDF is complaining about - how does the Negh'var which is same lenght of Sov but 2x as wide - have a turn of 9? That thing is a monster and turns better than anything the Fed crusiers have.
I've been wondering this myself.
Former/Cryptic Name: Captain_Hans_Langsdorff
Founding member, Special Service Squadron
"Fear God and Dread Nought." First Sea Lord, Adm. Jacky Fisher
Mass itself is not the issue.
It's what it's used for.
Example would be the real-life (yes I know some people hate RL examples) R-Type Battleships (Revenge class) and Battlecruisers (Renown class).
I've picked those two because the Renowns were basically slightly stretched Revenge hulls.
So the Renowns were a few meters longer and even a few thousand tons heavier at full load...and nearly 50% faster.
The reason is that the Renowns had far less armor and devoted a far greater percentag of their mass to propulsion.
Since in Star Trek the impulse engines are actually verctorized engines that are used for maneuvering my guess is the Klingons devote a lot of their volume to propulsion than their Federation counterparts.
Who devote their volume to guest quarters the size of my appartment.
My personal thought on the matter is that the Negh'var we have in this game has little to do with the Negh'var from DS9 and more with the more agile version we saw in "All good Things".
That thing had a rather impressive acceleration.
Rear Admiral , Engineering Division
U.S.S. Sheffield N.C.C. 92016
And yet 39 of them couldn't scratch a flying box.
with the exception of maybe the defiant , prometheus and a couple game only ships , all starfleet ships carry weapons designed for defence .wheras all klingon ships have cannons for example ...
Rear Admiral , Engineering Division
U.S.S. Sheffield N.C.C. 92016
Star Fleet has always been more exploration driven. Now the KDF, well they was battle driven. Look at their ships and how their crew is full of warriors or soldiers.
USS Casinghead NCC 92047 launched 2350
Fleet Admiral Stowe - Dominion War Vet.
And if the KDF folks complain its because they have alot to complain about (or is that little to complain about literally). The feds just got a new cruiser vesta is completely unnecessary and (sorry about this) not very nice looking either IMO.
And if the KDF folks complain its because they have alot to complain about (or is that little to complain about literally). The feds just got a new cruiser vesta is completely unnecessary and (sorry about this) not very nice looking either IMO.
Been a lot of sloppy going on lately
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