You seem to not understand the difference between a science fiction game and real life. Let me explain it to you. Science fiction is basically a fictional realm where real/theoretical science is what makes said realm exist.
Real life is considered Live Action. I hope this helps.
followed not stalked
...and you dentists ARE all the same
You explicitly stated that we were stalking. Do not change your reasons after being exposed as a forgery. Also, stereotyping everyone because they support Starfleet Dental is labeling. I don't appreciate it. If you don't like being treated unfairly, then stop treating others unfairly.
...yes that would make them as bad as dentists maybe worse
BUT I have never done anything worse than leave you down when you fall
You have accused me and my cohorts time and time again for your personal space being violated. I have never done such things. I do not condone it. You instigate whenever you feel you are being ousted for extreme viewpoints. Learn to accept defeat when most players do not share the same viewpoints as you. It's called a debate, not an argument.:rolleyes:
you guys hassled my 14 year old friend because she was DANCING (fully clothed) in the bar at her friends birthday party
She was wearing a Starfleet uniform (DS9) in science blue and was not on a table
I have also seen you party popper someone for ten solid minutes for saying "Hi Dave"
I know who you are talking about. They trolled you. She was claiming to be 14 years old, claiming to own Drozana, instigating fights with EVERYONE who disagreed with her. I now have reason to believe you are a certain person who has called me and my friends a bunch of racial slurs.
impersonation of a dental professional is an offence
You aren't serious, are you? I hope you aren't. You're definitely making that up. You do realize that going out and charging people money for dental work and faking your credentials is illegal, but saying you are a dentist online isn't. You seem to try and correlate many different job titles with laws that are currently established. In a simple context: Impersonating a GM on a game = ban. Impersonating a police officer = felony. Impersonating a dentist, ONLY WHEN SCAMMING MONEY OUT OF A VICTIM = felony.
If you watched Dateline NBC and watched when they exposed bank scammers, none were arrested. They are not breaking any laws until money is actually exchanged between both parties or an investigation proves a breach in security. Please understand the differences between a video game and real life, then the actual laws that govern society. Lying doesn't give you probable cause.
I suggest you either stop attacking people or disband
Never going to happen. As the first non-staff fleet of STO, they must maintain a status quotient. You would understand if your fleet had to maintain a certain status.
This is aside the point, however. I know that many of those who wear the Starfleet Dental tag with pride are rather pleasant people. I do not appreciate you attempting to justify your isms and phobias in a hostile manner on other players.
You seem to not understand the difference between a science fiction game and real life. Let me explain it to you. Science fiction is basically a fictional realm where real/theoretical science is what makes said realm exist.
Real life is considered Live Action. I hope this helps.
Real dentists do not attack people EVER
You explicitly stated that we were stalking.
not me you stalk Women and girls
im UGLY no one stalks me
Do not change your reasons after being exposed as a forgery. Also, stereotyping everyone because they support Starfleet Dental is labeling. I don't appreciate it. If you don't like being treated unfairly, then stop treating others unfairly.
you get treated as what you are
an organisation that exists to HURT people
Then I can trust that you aren't a troll, just someone who constantly believes they are right and everyone else is wrong.
much of the time
oh im not always right
just more often than not
You have accused me and my cohorts time and time again for your personal space being violated
not mine
mostly Women
I have never done such things. I do not condone it. You instigate whenever you feel you are being ousted for extreme viewpoints. Learn to accept defeat when most players do not share the same viewpoints as you. It's called a debate, not an argument.:rolleyes:
LEARN YOURSELF
I know who you are talking about. They trolled you. She was claiming to be 14 years old, claiming to own Drozana, instigating fights with EVERYONE who disagreed with you. I now have reason to believe you are a certain person who has called me and my friends a bunch of racial slurs.
NO
you see some people in there are REAL people and the person in question is the daughter of a friend of mine a real actual 14 year old girl
and why would I call you anything at all
you aren't a race
you are a TRIBE "dentals"
You aren't serious, are you? I hope you aren't. You're definitely making that up. You do realize that going out and charging people money for dental work and faking your credentials is illegal, but saying you are a dentist online isn't.
yes actually it IS its also a Tos breach
You seem to try and correlate many different job titles with laws that are currently established. In a simple context: Impersonating a GM on a game = ban. Impersonating a police officer = felony. Impersonating a dentist, ONLY WHEN SCAMMING MONEY OUT OF A VICTIM = felony.
Wrong
If you watched Dateline NBC and watched when they exposed bank scammers, none were arrested. They are not breaking any laws until money is actually exchanged between both parties or an investigation proves a breach in security. Please understand the differences between a video game and real life, then the actual laws that govern society. Lying doesn't give you probable cause.
I don't need probable cause you are already quilty
Never going to happen. As the first non-staff fleet of STO, they must maintain a status quotient. You would understand if your fleet had to maintain a certain status.
you aren't
This is aside the point, however. I know that many of those who wear the Starfleet Dental tag with pride are rather pleasant people. I do not appreciate you trying to justify your isms and phobias on other players.
NO
they are nasty people to the last one
and my only phobia is moths
You seem to have an unhealthy obsession with females (you do realise that the gender of a character is not necessarily the gender of the person playing the game). In addition you seem to have an obsession with giving out personal details of people in game.
I will make this clear so that you understand: can you stop harassing our members. You try to attribute your inappropriate behaviour with our fleets, and you constantly troll which contributes no discussion of any value.
Have you ever noticed that while the Dentists always carry a message of compassion and civic-mindedness, solvax spews nothing but hate and bile? How can a man who constantly drags every conversation he has into the gutter, who runs from thread to thread and spreading his bigotry and malice, who is filled with such hate, honestly think himself the good guy? Tell us the truth, solvax - how many Terry Goodkind books are within line of sight to you at this very moment?
Have you ever noticed that while the Dentists always carry a message of compassion and civic-mindedness, solvax spews nothing but hate and bile? How can a man who constantly drags every conversation he has into the gutter, who runs from thread to thread and spreading his bigotry and malice, who is filled with such hate, honestly think himself the good guy? Tell us the truth, solvax - how many Terry Goodkind books are within line of sight to you at this very moment?
I was thinking more Ayn Rand. Preachy and totally wrong in every assumption.
-Owner of Jem Hadar Attack Ship, 3x Galor, 2x D'Kora, 2x Orb, and 3x Recluse Carrier.
-Supporter of Cryptic Lockboxes!!!!!!!!
Youknowwhatitis...
-Supporter of Cryptic Lockboxes!
After hearing countless complaints by roleplayers in this game about the abuse suffered at Drozana station, I decided to go see for myself.
Over the past four days I have spent several hours a day, just sitting on Drozana observing, in several different instances.
I saw at least a half dozen instances of Starfleet Dental fleet members harassing the roleplayers. Trying to pick fights in chat, spamming chat, fire extinguishers, party poppers, and using their characters to jump on roleplayers.
I now believe their claims. This needs to stop. Put a GM on Drozana and start banning people who engage in this behavior. Ban a couple, and the rest will quickly get the message.
Personally, if I were the leaders of that fleet, I'd sit there myself (using an alias) and kick any member of the fleet that engaged in said behavior... it has given your fleet a bad name.
D&D DM/Player since 1982 - all versions except the despised 4e
I noticed that some NPCs on KDF Academy seem to attack enemies
while the academy event - it surprised me
What if the Drozana NPCs would do the same to any player who uses
social devices more than 1-2 x per minute. They could stun or arrest him.
I am not into RP myself but it makes me sad to see what happens on Drozana.
You seem to not understand the difference between a science fiction game and real life. Let me explain it to you. Science fiction is basically a fictional realm where real/theoretical science is what makes said realm exist.
Real life is considered Live Action. I hope this helps.
This is your defense? Really? That it is science fiction therefore it is reasonable for dentists to use techniques that are already mostly outdated today in RL?
Not to mention the concept that Dentists are all anti-social bigots....
After hearing countless complaints by roleplayers in this game about the abuse suffered at Drozana station, I decided to go see for myself.
Over the past four days I have spent several hours a day, just sitting on Drozana observing, in several different instances.
I saw at least a half dozen instances of Starfleet Dental fleet members harassing the roleplayers. Trying to pick fights in chat, spamming chat, fire extinguishers, party poppers, and using their characters to jump on roleplayers.
I now believe their claims. This needs to stop. Put a GM on Drozana and start banning people who engage in this behavior. Ban a couple, and the rest will quickly get the message.
Sounds like we have an RPist apologist on our hands here.
Youknowwhatitis...
-Supporter of Cryptic Lockboxes!
You seem to have an unhealthy obsession with females (you do realise that the gender of a character is not necessarily the gender of the person playing the game). In addition you seem to have an obsession with giving out personal details of people in game.
I will make this clear so that you understand: can you stop harassing our members. You try to attribute your inappropriate behaviour with our fleets, and you constantly troll which contributes no discussion of any value.
Im not the one molesting them
now keep your so called fleet out of my way
you are NOT worthy
you are not useful
and you are not wanted
you are the gutter
leave the ladies , female avatars , cross dressers and borg ALONE
Sounds like we have an RPist apologist on our hands here.
Believe what you want, personally I'm not a roleplayer in STO, but every word of what I said is easily verifiable. Just go look on Drozana for yourself.
You can't miss it.
D&D DM/Player since 1982 - all versions except the despised 4e
If you wish to have retorts that have no evidence to back them up, then go use "your mom" jokes at the schoolyard. You are just verifying the fact that you are a narcissistic.
not me you stalk Women and girls
im UGLY no one stalks me
Then how do you explain being stalked by people from OPVP? You keep changing your story. You need to stop crying wolf about other players who enjoy this game. You are a delusional person and need to seek professional aid.
you get treated as what you are
an organisation that exists to HURT people
You cannot justify hate crimes based on what fleet someone is from. STO Roleplayers Guild sometimes has people who engage in explicit chat, but not all of them are terrible people. Starfleet Dental is unprejudiced, they do not target fleets. As per diplomacy and fleet wars, attacking a fleet is simply trying to remain canon.
much of the time
oh im not always right
just more often than not
This just validates my point of you being a narcissist. If you have friends who have matured into adults, then you really need to think about how you are treating other players. You aren't a child, you are an adult. I don't appreciate you and your childish retorts and arguments. Take that to a high school.:mad:
Your responses are baseless and have no meaning. Your reasons for spreading hate against Starfleet Dental have no backbone. You are a very shameful person with no respect for others. I do not condone most of SFD's actions, but having reason is what makes my argument more valid than yours. Stop trying to justify hate crimes.
you see some people in there are REAL people and the person in question is the daughter of a friend of mine a real actual 14 year old girl
Alright, you need to proofread what you write. If your friend's daughter is having problems, maybe your friend needs to be the one defending her against said "attacks". Also, watching a 14 year old girl, online in a game, at an "online birthday party" is beyond creepy. You know who people who do this are called, right? Look it up, if not. It's not called being a sitter.
You also cannot justify why this person is having a birthday party online with adults who play this game for pleasure. Do you have any idea what you made yourself sound like? In all honesty, I wouldn't want my kids playing this game. I wouldn't even want them playing with my friends in a game. That just breeds taboos that most responsible parents would cringe at. Seriously. :eek:
and why would I call you anything at all
you aren't a race
you are a TRIBE "dentals"
There's two ways I could take that. One is that we are a fleet, not a tribe. The other is: Are you demeaning tribes throughout the world, trying to make that word sound derogatory? That is definitely prejudiced. If you are willing to go as far and impose your rejected racial, stereotypical, and economically inferior viewpoints as a form of debate, then I'm sorry, but that's offensive.
NO
they are nasty people to the last one
and my only phobia is moths
Seriously? Just turn this thing off, you have no ability to maintain a peaceful and mature relationship between posts. You also misinterpreted the phobias and isms. If you truly cannot comprehend the level of "fail" you are accomplishing, then you really need to step down and let the adults debate.:rolleyes:
Good show, guys.
Really.
Dental hiyacking this thread, playing victim and managing to make another dent in Trollvax' already damaged psyche.
You got him good.
And yes, he probably had it coming.
But ... you know ... it's time for you to leave now.
Crawl back into the darkness that spawned you.
And don't come back ... well, this thread will probably get locked soon anyway, you managed to achieve that.
What you also manage to achieve though is this: you showed everyone who has eyes to what lenght you guys will go to grief and harass, and how you will take revenge on your enemies. And you won't manage to quiet people calling you out, for the simple reason that you won't stop harassing and griefing, in plain sight.
Oh, and the worst about it: you've managed to make me defend Trollvax. If you'd just let him be, he'd managed to sabotage his cause well enough, as he always does - nothing is worse than having him on your side of a debate, even if you're trying to convince people that "one plus one is indeed two" - but now, I'll have to admit he's right, even if in a totally wrong way.
You guys are indeed a blight on the face of humanity, and something has to be done about it.
I saw at least a half dozen instances of Starfleet Dental fleet members harassing the roleplayers. Trying to pick fights in chat, spamming chat, fire extinguishers, party poppers, and using their characters to jump on roleplayers.
I tend to stand around in Droz between queue pops and I have never once seen a Dental member "spam the chat" or try to pick fights (outside of trying to get people to PVP, which is perfectly fine). Doing so is explicitly against Dental's rules. I have, however, had abuse and even death threats directed against me via tells merely for having the Starfleet Dental tag over my head.
We have no problem with people who just want to roleplay space captains or whatever. That's harmless and they're not hurting anyone (in fact they add to the atmosphere of the game). The dancing and extinguishers are (intended to be) exclusively targeted at people who carry out erotic roleplay activities in public, which is highly inappropriate for a free-to-play game rated for children.
Comments
You seem to not understand the difference between a science fiction game and real life. Let me explain it to you. Science fiction is basically a fictional realm where real/theoretical science is what makes said realm exist.
Real life is considered Live Action. I hope this helps.
You explicitly stated that we were stalking. Do not change your reasons after being exposed as a forgery. Also, stereotyping everyone because they support Starfleet Dental is labeling. I don't appreciate it. If you don't like being treated unfairly, then stop treating others unfairly.
Then I can trust that you aren't a troll, just someone who constantly believes they are right and everyone else is wrong.
You have accused me and my cohorts time and time again for your personal space being violated. I have never done such things. I do not condone it. You instigate whenever you feel you are being ousted for extreme viewpoints. Learn to accept defeat when most players do not share the same viewpoints as you. It's called a debate, not an argument.:rolleyes:
I know who you are talking about. They trolled you. She was claiming to be 14 years old, claiming to own Drozana, instigating fights with EVERYONE who disagreed with her. I now have reason to believe you are a certain person who has called me and my friends a bunch of racial slurs.
You aren't serious, are you? I hope you aren't. You're definitely making that up. You do realize that going out and charging people money for dental work and faking your credentials is illegal, but saying you are a dentist online isn't. You seem to try and correlate many different job titles with laws that are currently established. In a simple context: Impersonating a GM on a game = ban. Impersonating a police officer = felony. Impersonating a dentist, ONLY WHEN SCAMMING MONEY OUT OF A VICTIM = felony.
If you watched Dateline NBC and watched when they exposed bank scammers, none were arrested. They are not breaking any laws until money is actually exchanged between both parties or an investigation proves a breach in security. Please understand the differences between a video game and real life, then the actual laws that govern society. Lying doesn't give you probable cause.
Never going to happen. As the first non-staff fleet of STO, they must maintain a status quotient. You would understand if your fleet had to maintain a certain status.
This is aside the point, however. I know that many of those who wear the Starfleet Dental tag with pride are rather pleasant people. I do not appreciate you attempting to justify your isms and phobias in a hostile manner on other players.
I will make this clear so that you understand: can you stop harassing our members. You try to attribute your inappropriate behaviour with our fleets, and you constantly troll which contributes no discussion of any value.
Shutup Wesley: First In Everything
I was thinking more Ayn Rand. Preachy and totally wrong in every assumption.
-Owner of Jem Hadar Attack Ship, 3x Galor, 2x D'Kora, 2x Orb, and 3x Recluse Carrier.
-Supporter of Cryptic Lockboxes!!!!!!!!
You know what it is...
-Supporter of Cryptic Lockboxes!
Over the past four days I have spent several hours a day, just sitting on Drozana observing, in several different instances.
I saw at least a half dozen instances of Starfleet Dental fleet members harassing the roleplayers. Trying to pick fights in chat, spamming chat, fire extinguishers, party poppers, and using their characters to jump on roleplayers.
I now believe their claims. This needs to stop. Put a GM on Drozana and start banning people who engage in this behavior. Ban a couple, and the rest will quickly get the message.
Personally, if I were the leaders of that fleet, I'd sit there myself (using an alias) and kick any member of the fleet that engaged in said behavior... it has given your fleet a bad name.
while the academy event - it surprised me
What if the Drozana NPCs would do the same to any player who uses
social devices more than 1-2 x per minute. They could stun or arrest him.
I am not into RP myself but it makes me sad to see what happens on Drozana.
This is your defense? Really? That it is science fiction therefore it is reasonable for dentists to use techniques that are already mostly outdated today in RL?
Not to mention the concept that Dentists are all anti-social bigots....
Sounds like we have an RPist apologist on our hands here.
You know what it is...
-Supporter of Cryptic Lockboxes!
Im not the one molesting them
now keep your so called fleet out of my way
you are NOT worthy
you are not useful
and you are not wanted
you are the gutter
leave the ladies , female avatars , cross dressers and borg ALONE
Believe what you want, personally I'm not a roleplayer in STO, but every word of what I said is easily verifiable. Just go look on Drozana for yourself.
You can't miss it.
This thread is at least 95 posts too long.
And yes, fully aware of the irony / hypocrisy involved in posting to say there are too many posts, no need to point it out.
I asked you to stop harassing us, now you've switched to bigotry and hate speech. You need to take a break and calm down.
For the sake of Canon, holograms attack people! Robots don't, because iRobot.
Then how do you explain being stalked by people from OPVP? You keep changing your story. You need to stop crying wolf about other players who enjoy this game. You are a delusional person and need to seek professional aid.
You cannot justify hate crimes based on what fleet someone is from. STO Roleplayers Guild sometimes has people who engage in explicit chat, but not all of them are terrible people. Starfleet Dental is unprejudiced, they do not target fleets. As per diplomacy and fleet wars, attacking a fleet is simply trying to remain canon.
This just validates my point of you being a narcissist. If you have friends who have matured into adults, then you really need to think about how you are treating other players. You aren't a child, you are an adult. I don't appreciate you and your childish retorts and arguments. Take that to a high school.:mad:
Your responses are baseless and have no meaning. Your reasons for spreading hate against Starfleet Dental have no backbone. You are a very shameful person with no respect for others. I do not condone most of SFD's actions, but having reason is what makes my argument more valid than yours. Stop trying to justify hate crimes.
Alright, you need to proofread what you write. If your friend's daughter is having problems, maybe your friend needs to be the one defending her against said "attacks". Also, watching a 14 year old girl, online in a game, at an "online birthday party" is beyond creepy. You know who people who do this are called, right? Look it up, if not. It's not called being a sitter.
You also cannot justify why this person is having a birthday party online with adults who play this game for pleasure. Do you have any idea what you made yourself sound like? In all honesty, I wouldn't want my kids playing this game. I wouldn't even want them playing with my friends in a game. That just breeds taboos that most responsible parents would cringe at. Seriously. :eek:
There's two ways I could take that. One is that we are a fleet, not a tribe. The other is: Are you demeaning tribes throughout the world, trying to make that word sound derogatory? That is definitely prejudiced. If you are willing to go as far and impose your rejected racial, stereotypical, and economically inferior viewpoints as a form of debate, then I'm sorry, but that's offensive.
Where?
Seriously? Just turn this thing off, you have no ability to maintain a peaceful and mature relationship between posts. You also misinterpreted the phobias and isms. If you truly cannot comprehend the level of "fail" you are accomplishing, then you really need to step down and let the adults debate.:rolleyes:
*stands up*
*standing aplause*
Good show, guys.
Really.
Dental hiyacking this thread, playing victim and managing to make another dent in Trollvax' already damaged psyche.
You got him good.
And yes, he probably had it coming.
But ... you know ... it's time for you to leave now.
Crawl back into the darkness that spawned you.
And don't come back ... well, this thread will probably get locked soon anyway, you managed to achieve that.
What you also manage to achieve though is this: you showed everyone who has eyes to what lenght you guys will go to grief and harass, and how you will take revenge on your enemies. And you won't manage to quiet people calling you out, for the simple reason that you won't stop harassing and griefing, in plain sight.
Oh, and the worst about it: you've managed to make me defend Trollvax. If you'd just let him be, he'd managed to sabotage his cause well enough, as he always does - nothing is worse than having him on your side of a debate, even if you're trying to convince people that "one plus one is indeed two" - but now, I'll have to admit he's right, even if in a totally wrong way.
You guys are indeed a blight on the face of humanity, and something has to be done about it.
A sad day, indeed. :mad:
Dentists don't hurt people.... Never he says eh?
I don't think I even to need explain this. Thread closed. -BranFlakes
I tend to stand around in Droz between queue pops and I have never once seen a Dental member "spam the chat" or try to pick fights (outside of trying to get people to PVP, which is perfectly fine). Doing so is explicitly against Dental's rules. I have, however, had abuse and even death threats directed against me via tells merely for having the Starfleet Dental tag over my head.
We have no problem with people who just want to roleplay space captains or whatever. That's harmless and they're not hurting anyone (in fact they add to the atmosphere of the game). The dancing and extinguishers are (intended to be) exclusively targeted at people who carry out erotic roleplay activities in public, which is highly inappropriate for a free-to-play game rated for children.
I don't think I even to need explain this. Thread closed. -BranFlakes
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