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Having the ARGO from Nemesis as a mount
cosmoscola
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I would love being able to have mounts to be able to cross ground terrains faster. While I realize many of them are still to small, in some of the larger groundmaps and in the future this would be grest. Maybe to start of with the ARGO shuttle along with that crazy car.
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Personally, the ARGO shouldn't have been in Trek full stop.
What this game needs in general is more types of items to collect. Ground equipment is done with just two pieces of defense and a weapon (kits are "done" at Mk XI). We need more stuff to collect, tweak and customize outselves with.
It might be overkill to be like most MMOs with magic jewelry, bracers, wristbands, waistbands, trousers shoes etc etc but there is a point to it. More stuff to collect is longer moitivation to keep playing.
I didn't kept the devs from creating EV suits to sell.
If we all cry long enough for mounts, we will get them sooner or later. Only the ZEN will stop us from having them.
Think of it. Star Trek as all about exploration. Sadly the narrow maps makes this difficult. With larger maps comes the ability to add new things and there if really no limit in terms of exploration what we migh be able to find in this universe. And the usefullness of various items and artifacts are also endless. It would be just soo much fun having several maps that you could spend hours upon hours to explore if you wanted it. If you don't want it, then you don't have to.
MK XI? Funny i thought the highest kit was a purple Mk X.
Have I missed something?
2) What if you need to get somewhere without others knowing it? A shuttle is easier to get picked up by tracking systems.
Maybe that why shuttles have transporters?
Im sry i thought the ARGO kinda jumped the shark!
That was probably why we never saw one before Nemesis.
Besides which, I can't really think of any place you could use one in the game anyway. Most of the social maps are space station interiors (I'm sure Captain Kurland would love someone driving an ARGO down the Promenade) and the mission maps are generally too small to need something like that.
So unless the introduced a massive exploration system with massive ground maps on it (not a bad idea in itself, tbf, but it ain't coming any time soon if ever), the game can't accomodate one.
If it were ever to get in-game, it could be a special Captain's perk, to drive around on uninhabited planets like Risa. (And I say uninhabited because it could otherwise upset ground combat and ground missions)
Been playing STO since Open Beta, and have never regarded anything as worse than 'meh', if only due to personal standards.
Nope. Nyet. Nein. Never. No way. No how. Fuggedaboutit.
I don't care if they are canon with cannons that cannon canon. Just NO.
If ya wants yer mounts in an MMO, WoW is over THAT way and TOR is over THAT other way!
Now having said that, ground-based shuttle missions would be interesting. I wonder why we only have one cut scene with shuttles on the ground at this point. As I recall planetary landing was one of the main appearances shuttles made on the shows.
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Then add the fact you need a frikking HUGE cargo shuttle to land the thing because for some reason the ship's transporters, that are capable of shifting a 30 ton whale, can't move a 500kg dune buggy!
I have to agree the ARGO didn't make any sense. A shuttle can go more places than a car can.
This because sure as heck once they mounts they will driving them though esd.
Second would make the game more like halo
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Yet star wars had speeder bikes, and they didn't adversly affect the story. Forgett that shuttle- we can't use shuttles at low altitude, so the ARGO would be an excellent idea.
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Star Wars didn't have transporters.
Nemsis, they couldn't be beam down due to a nearby ion storm and it was a lowtech world where flying around would have been "disruptive". So...
In every war there is that one weapon, that one vehicle, that one piece of equipment that really stands out as "apart of that war". Like the Huey helicopter is most often related with the Vietnam war, the F-117 Stealth Fighter is with the Gulf War, etc.
The Argo ground vehicle could ony be used in Large maps like the Nopada Desert in Coliseum, and even there it takes just a few minutes to just run straight across ignoring everything on foot. (I know because i did that with the Lobi Scavenger Hunt. Once I was in the desert, i just ignored all the objectives and ran for the Lobi.)
Being only 1 large grond map where the Argo is useful would make it less useful than shuttles are currently in game.
Multiple new Large and open terrain maps would be needed for it to be useful, but if they made those maps with the "Argo like vehicle" only sold in the store, there would be complaints that there were no free, on map ones.
i would love a Nopada Desert capture and hold PvP map with ground vehicles, imagine running/driving around Halo style on that huge map capturing points.
But I don't see the Argo or those maps happening.
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Are you equally in favor of space hippies? Those are canon too. So are whale probes that 'incidentally' knock out power to entire solar systems.
Many things are canon that are best forgotten.
They were plenty disruptive with the argo. They engaged the locals in a car chase, they killed atleast some of those locals with energy weapons and to top it off they flew off into space with the argo shuttle right in front of them anyway.
I think it would be awesome to do a story in STO where we find out Picard and crew actually killed that planets equivalent of abraham lincoln and ruined their chances for a more peaceful, free and equal society. It would include a scene at Picards courtmartial where he sheepishly points at Worf and exclaims "He did it!".
LOL, I love these forums. Everytime I'm reminded of the space hippies I remember a poster on here years back who mistook Khan for Sevrin and I then proceed to blow my own mind thinking of what "the Wrath of Sevrin" would have been like. :eek:
Ground combat sucks in this game. Don't agrue the point- its 100 percent true, and we all know it. Sto could use a touch of halo. As for the transporter argument, cryptic don't care. The only thing they losten to is money, and at 5 bucks a pop, argo could be a great way for cryptic to milk the rp'ers (and me!
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Ground is an afterthought and it's only real purpose is to conduct trade and requisitions.
This is correct, the Argo ground vehicle was used because the transporters could not work on the planet but you can argue that they still could of used the shuttle to get around which also is true, If not the Argo car defiantly the Argo shuttle should be in the game.
Now you could say that at the end of the day that it's still in our blood, human or alien, to want to ride around in a buggy because yes it is fun. We're attracted to such things. But it is not practical ever for Starfleet to condone it. At best they would say, "go use a holodeck, or do it on your own time during vacation" or whatnot.
What would have made much more sense in the trek universe, if it was done for trek and not for an actor, is a type of hover mobile such as what we saw in Star Wars which is easily possible in the trek universe and probably has been done and I'm just not remembering it(oh right, they did it in Star Trek with the cop chasing down mini Kirk so, yeah) And that's assuming a trek producer somewhere didn't get lazy about it and just went with a shuttle instead because it does the same job and faster.
So, whatever, sure. I'd take an ARGO. But all it will ever be good for is wasting your money because they will surely never put it to good use in game for anything ever because they are already struggling with everything else. Designing content for the ARGO will be about as likely as focusing on the KDF. But personally I rather have a hover bike because it's a lot more trek as far as I care. I'm certain wheels still exist well into the future but it's probably for novelty reasons and for practical reasons it's all hover vehicles.
That is an extremely common scenario in Trek.
I'd think using a shuttle increases risk of contamination.
In the wrong hands, one shuttle is more terrible than thousands of atom bombs.