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admiralq1732
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I am ticked, as a F2P player I'm screwed my PW and Cryptic. I spend all that time building a starbase and shipyard, throwing resources after resource just to find out I have to buy 4 modules to get most of the fleet ships!? And with the module at 500 zen a pice that's 2k in zen Then add the fact the fleet version of sever ships won't have the unique console, WASTE OF EFFORT. EITHER LOWER THE PRICE OF THE MODULE OR HAVE THE MODULE ONLY BE ONE BUT IT UNLOCKS ALL SHIPS. Only limited by tier of base and fleet credits you have.
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C-Store prices are generally high because only the most impatient of players aren't buying things from it with anywhere from a 10% to 100% discount.
Al Rivera hates Klingons
Star Trek Online: Agents of Jack Emmert
All cloaks should be canon.
Then you don't get their attention.
Corporations focus more on their Twotter feedback than almost anything else these days because Twitter can spread bad press at RIDICULOUS speed and they'd rather address issues than let them build into a PR black eye.
The problem with this game is NONE of the transactions are really micro. Everything is a few dollars here and there, when it should be much less to feel worthwhile. What they really need to do is inflate dilithium market. The Dollar to Zen ratio is too low, it shouldn't be 25$ for a end game ship. Besides there are other stuff like bank slots and character slots that they can milk us for.
I guess you haven't been paying attention this was common knowledge before season 6 came out, just the price and how many modules required was not.
Think about it on the other side of the fence, you pay the money and get the c-store ship only to find that the fleet ships are better but only single characters unlock. So if you have 3 characters instead of paying 2,500 Zen for a ship you're paying 6,000. At least the consoles aren't part of the fleet ships, thank small miracles I guess.
Sounds like to me you want everything for nothing. I may not agree with Cryptic's decisions in regards to fleet ships but I certainly do not agree with yours either.
With the glorious exception of STO, where it is still possible to get everything, without paying (as long as someone else does it). It just takes time (not a theoretically 2 years, but still some time).
If you don't want to pay ZEN for Fleet Modules, you can even buy them on the exchange for EC. EC is very easy to get, tons of examples are littered around the forums, just use them.
I have all t 5 ships of the feds so the 500 zen per month for my lifetime would do it but i dont spend any zen for the fleetships. I play more Klingons and here is my point of anger, no klingon Fleetship is under 4 moduls because klingons dont get any fleet version of the t5 c store ships. Feds have Galaxy - Defiant - Intrepit - Multivector - Armitage
Hmmm what will cryptic say to us with this ? dont play klings?
Sure i only need to wait around 3 years or more to get all fleetships for my chars with my Lifetime but i dont think the game exist long enough for that tactic.
Also i dont will spend 2000 zen for a charunlock.... or 700 like the new suits (charunlock)
I looked over the Fleetmodul Blog and see nearly 97% of the posts are hate only , great jop cryptic/PW
all you need is your basic ship (which you get free).
thats free to play.
F2P = The slow lane, Free to Grind out EC or Dilitium to convert to Zen.
P2P = The Fast lane, I want therefore I buy.
If there is something I want I buy it, if I think it is overpriced like an EV suit than I don't buy it.
8000 Dilitium becomes 35 Zen ATM. That's 15 days for 525 Zen, that's 60 days for a Fleet ship. It's still free it's just slow the F2P model is based off impatience.
You can also buy FSM off the Exchange for ECs, so there is always that method.
If I ask you a question it is not an insult but a genuine attempt to understand why.
When I insult you I won't be discreet about it, I will be precise and to the point stupid.
I realy like pvp so i need best equip to be successfull. Sure pvp is in a realy bad shape and now with the new fleetships more out of balance as before but the hope die at last.
Maybe they add the klingon t5 ships to fleet system so im no more so upset.
1 modul to upgrade is accaptable
No you're worng, I spent time and ingame resources to help the starbase. If you just need the one module to unlock all ships then you just need the tier and the Fleet credits to get it. And yes i know the the unqiue console would not be a part of that and was fine with that. I'm saying why bother buying getting the fleet ship, it may cost 500 zen less then the Zen store version but take into acount of the resources and time you put into the base and shipyard the ship now cost over 3k Zen worth. I get screwed so NO. As a result unltil THIS IS FIXED I'll be doing more STF for dilithium grinds to get the zen ship for it's more cost efective and I getr the unique console. so Cryptic and PW screwed up AGAIN!
Just by playing we accumulate vast resouces. Look at the Exchange. People have 100 million EC to spend on things like Tholian ships simply because they play and earn the EC. Without something to spend it on it's just accumulation for nothing.
It's like Zen. In your opinion 2,000 Zen is a big deal. To me, between simply playing and my Stipend, I average making 3,000 Zen per month - and my best month was just under 5,000 Zen. But even at 3,000 Zen per month I can basically buy whatever I want that's new in the C-Store that month without spending a cent.
My overall point here is that if you're going to play you're going to accumulate resources. You can horde them or you can give them to your Fleet, but it's not really a big deal. It's just something you get for playing. If it's your only reason for playing you should probably think about some other games, IMO.
Dilithium and Fleet Marks are simply renamed/repurposed Starfleet Merits/Honor, Badges/Marks of Exploration, Honor, and Valor. Cryptic has always awarded so me kind of currency for playing specific content. We were simply playing for a different token back then.
Al Rivera hates Klingons
Star Trek Online: Agents of Jack Emmert
All cloaks should be canon.
your missing my point. the insentive to get the fleet ship is gone with the way it currently is. I am a f2p idon't get a stripend and even playig for months I just might get 9mill in EC. some stuff is in the 1000 mils. the fleet ship in the end is way over priced. for it's use. the results of this I'll be spending less time on fleet missions for i get no dilithium for it. In the end your getting a ship that has some stat changes and an extra slot for 3/4 of the zen price of the zen ship pul whatever you spent on the base and not get the unqiue console. I think not i rather get the zen ship, in the end it's actually cheaper. thus the TRIBBLE up. no real reward for help the fleet
I can do Fleet events all week long and never spend a single earned Fleet Mark on my Fleet. I don't do Fleet events to earn Fleet Marks. I do them because they are content and I feel like doing them. The fact that they earn me Fleet Marks is just a benefit. If I can play for 2 years and slowly build a Fleetbase simply by playing, great. But building a Fleetbase not the reason I'm playing.
The long-term point is that they want you to buy the C-Store version and also get the Fleet version. The fact that you can do both without ever spending a single penny of your own money just by playing is a good thing for you.
You can play a couple of months and earn the C-Store version and then play a couple of more months and earn the Fleet version. You don't need to have it all today simply because you want it all today.
OP, TL;DR version: "I don't pay for this game, I don't want to grind either, and I want everything handed to me NOW and FOR FREE!"
Is that about right?
I mean, I've seen people with entitlement issues before, nothing new there ... but this really tops it, usually people use the "I'm paying you, so giiiiiiief!" line.
Hint:
Cryptic isn't making this game so you can have fun.
Cryptic isn't making this game so they have as many players as possible.
Cryptic isn't making this game to make as good a game as possible. Or even a GOOD game, for that matter.
THEY ARE MAKING THIS GAME TO MAKE MONEY!
Hell, most of them probably ain't even trekkies, and just as probably they're laughing their TRIBBLE off when they see what/how people spend their money on this.
But: it's their job, it gets them paid, and ... it does so by making you BUY stuff from the store.
By making it HARD and UNPLEASANT to grind it for free, by encouraging shortcuts and pay-2-win.
Not by giving you stuff for free ....
Really, this thread is the most hilarious one i've seen on any game for at least a year.
Just wanted to make sure to let you know you made me laugh.
Okay, laugh AT you, but that still has to count for something, right, OP?
Are you not understanding the system? You don't need to spend any money. You simply need to spend time playing.
Cryptic devised a fairly nice system. You can play the game for free. It doesn't cost you any money at all. You can play every Mission in the game, and not pay any money. You can have the best STF gear without spending a cent. You can have the best ship in the game without spending a dime. You can have the best uniforms and best pets without spending any money. All you need to do is play.
You can play and earn 8,000 Dilithium a day. You can Refine and sell that Dilithium for Zen. In a month you will have around 900 Zen simply from doing that. That's 900 Zen you can spend on something, or you can save it and next month have 900 Zen more for a total of 1,800 Zen.
Cryptic is not asking you to spend money on a Subscription. They're simply saying: keep playing for free and you can buy the things you want just for playing.
YOU DON"T NEED TO SPEND ANY MONEY TO HAVE THE BEST THINGS IN THE GAME. You just can't have them the moment they are available. If you're willing to just play you can eventually have whatever it is you want.
1: Fleet module stays same price but you only by one of them, thus you have to sepnd resources to build the base and credits to buy it.
2: lower the price of the module but still have the same requirements for purchasing the ship.
#: Add dilithium to fleet events so I don't have to double grind
Just play the game and do what you want. Don't worry about grinding to finish a Fleetbase that is going to take forever either way. There's no bonus for being the first one to finish your Fleetbase. You're rushing to nowhere.
If there were no Dilithium or Fleet Marks in the game you'd sill be playing. You'd still be doing STFs, or Dailies, or PvP, or whatever. The Dilithium and Marks are bonuses for playing.
Stop thinking about it as a job and start thinking about it as a hobby. You play STO to have fun for a few hours ever day. You can sign in and pew-pew Borg and whatnot and just live out some Trek fantasies. You're not grinding for a Fleetbase. You're playing to have fun. You're not grinding for Dilithium. You're playing to have fun. The fact that you can earn a Fleetbase and Dilithium is just a bonus.
Stop acting like Cryptic is keeping you from having fun. They've given you a whole game to play for free.
Its not really feasible considering the lowest priced one I've seen is 9,000,000 EC. Ya i got nine million EC at any given moment so why not right. What is wrong with these people? And no the great majority of players do not want to grind for a bloody year to get it. Because if that's all you did was grind for EC to get this, you wouldn't be able to accomplish anything else in your time limited day for anything else in the game. This idea is only working for people that are either disabled and cant work or simply have other things they would like to do that day.
I would like one too, but like a good boy I have to wait for my birthday, because even my wife thinks its just ludicrous. Especially considering I've already given cryptic or perfect world whatever $50+ so in he-insight i think i deserve a freebie of lets say at least one module, and just because I'm not a subscriber per-say they still know I've given them money. They know. Oh they know.
And for the guy that stared the thread, I'm so sorry that when you express your frustration in a reasonable way and do so in the correct place, and not on some twitter account that I also refuse to take part it, you get **** on and told that you should rethink your ideals. It's the most asinine people that make me laugh and cry.
People act like everything is so hard to get in this game. It's simply not. People simply need to take their heads out of the sand and look at all the avenues this game gives you to make the various currencies.