Like everyone else said - Art guys - awesome job! Was hoping these would be available at some point.
Marketing guys - wtf? There are account wide ships available for less, which have more value to me than an item with mediocre stats. (Including newer ships that haven't depreciated in value yet like those that have been available for some time)
I'm not one to usually comment on this stuff, since I know the company needs to make money this way, but PWE is not doing themselves a service with this absurd price point on a per-character basis. (meh...maybe they are, LOL, would be interesting to see the purchase metrics)
tl;dr?
No thanks, adjust price and/or account wide unlock (both factions), and I'll reconsider.
Meowz, I usually buy everything and I'm really a TNG era fan, and I really feel sawwy for the one who has created these purrcious thingies, butt ... I will pass on this one, because I stand with the crew here. Together we are strung, and together we can move meowntains. Purrfect World needs to learn a certain attit00d towards the players of their gamez. I will purrbly buy one off the exchange with EC, butt I oppose characterwide in opposite to ac****wide unlocks in the highest. And the price is too muchies.
Ouchies in the heart, meowz says.
~ Meow
"Everything about the Jham'Hadar is lethal!" - Eris
Original Join Date: January 30th, 2010
Meowz, I usually buy everything and I'm really a TNG era fan, and I really feel sawwy for the one who has created these purrcious thingies, butt ... I will pass on this one, because I stand with the crew here. Together we are strung, and together we can move meowntains. Purrfect World needs to learn a certain attit00d towards the players of their gamez. I will purrbly buy one off the exchange with EC, butt I oppose characterwide in opposite to ac****wide unlocks in the highest. And the price is too muchies.
Ouchies in the heart, meowz says.
~ Meow
I just have to say this... But your posts and your wording/spelling twists always makes me chuckle! Kudos to you! lol.
On topic tho... Even tho I've said it all already myself, I agree with all you've said!
I find it highly amusing that there were a couple of posts that had the ridiculous thought that I'm some sort of Cryptic/PWE plant or super secret employee bringing something actually nice to say to the topic. I think the fact that your minds can't wrap around the fact that someone out there on the intrawebs might not actually have an issue with it or at least does not subscribed to your hive mind and this is the only way you can justify it is, again, hilarious. Sorry people, but that's a little too much of a facebook/Chic-Fil-A rationale.
So let us get this straight, I am a huge Star Trek fan. I grew up on it and have watched every incarnation except Enterprise (I've only seen a few episodes of that). I am also, for the record, UNEMPLOYED. Meaning that no one, including Cryptic/PWE has me as an employee at this time. Some people with their conspiracy theories may still have a small seed of doubt in their mind regarding this because the thought pattern is usually "well, he has to deny it, it's his job". Let me rip that seed out of the ground and stomp on it.
I have been here since the game went free to play and I enjoy the hell out of it. Yes it has it's bugs and it's quirks and can sometimes (very rarely for me) be annoying. However, I play this game to have fun and relax *gasp*. I don't take it as serious as the most of you do. I just log in, blow some things up, make up character stories for the why's and how's of some missions and log off. Sometimes I even log in to blow off some steam. It's a nice release for me in a genre that I adore. OH and it's free to play. Coming in as a new player was interesting because while I enjoyed the game coming to the forums and reading some of the chat all I heard was a lot of people (note I didn't say all) B**ching and Whining EVERY DAY about something cryptic did or didn't do or that PWE is doing and BLAH BLAH BLAH. Seriously, there should be a replicator only dedicated to cheeses because of all the whine! So much hate that to my thought process would make any newbie balk at going forward. I rarely if ever let other peoples thoughts and rants dissuade me from things I want to do, so I moved on and *gasp* had fun playing. I am the type of person that keeps things in perspective. My perspective thus far is this:
This is not my sandbox. I am allowed to be in here by the graces of Cryptic/PWE (and so are you). PWE runs the show and tells Cryptic what to do. They DELEGATE their wants for what works in their business model. Cryptic carries out their orders like good soldiers. Cryptic does what they can within the boundaries that have been put upon them by PWE and CBS and whomever else they have to answer to. They give us the fans what they can at the time given and -when- they can. They do what they can with the resources they have. Resources that have recently grown according to some of the interviews recently. With the new employees coming in and those that are leaving or have left, I'm sure there is going to be a new acclimation period that they are going to have to go through and that will take time. There will also be trial and error as with ANY game out there. Sometimes it happens a lot, sometimes only a little. There will be things that go wrong because that is life. Will I let it get to me? Nope. If I feel the need to voice it, I will. But that is where it will end because I have other things to do than Nerd Rage all over the boards and the chats because I feel I have some imagined sense of importance or ownership or stake in this game. I don't. I just go with the flow and let the rest roll off my back. Log in, play, log out. If it all crashed and burned tomorrow, I would just walk away and remember the fun I had.
With that said, I had an extra twenty dollars last week (or maybe it was this week) and I bought some Zen, because I'll support the game if I have the extra cash. This place aint run for free ya know? It's actually a business! I bought some keys for the new lockboxes. I bought a Delta Flyer for use in the Vault. With the left over money I got the new suit. Cryptic/PWE already had my money days prior and so I decided to where to allocate the Zen funds. It was no big deal and it made me happy to do so on the one character account that I have. And it's all about my happiness after all.
Clearly a Cryptic/PWE employee wouldn't have stated anything like the above, lest they be a -former- Cryptic/PWE employee. You know...jobless.
Clearly a Cryptic/PWE employee wouldn't have stated anything like the above, lest they be a -former- Cryptic/PWE employee. You know...jobless.
Its cool to see someone who actually picked up the suit. I'm of the same mind that Cryptic needs to make money to keep the lights on and keep the game I like so much running. So I have no problem with people giving money to Cryptic.
I think its the fear of single toon and not redeemable again unlocks that also scares people about this and its not just the higher then usual price.
F2P STO is still kinda new and most I think are still seeing where Cryptic is gonig with all of this. Cryptic will have the metrics to see how this item made more/less money for them then the other costume packs and ships. And that's what will really make their future decisions.
I normally will buy anything, even if I'm not that interested I'll probably pick it up.
but I'm not buying this, which pains me as I really wanted it. The artists did a good job and I feel a little sorry for him that people are turned away by someone elses bad decision.
Maybe I'll get one on the exchange if I manage to scrape together the EC but I'm not impressed with the pricing for a per character item.
This sums up my thoughts! Reading through this thread. I have to say, it's about time everyone finally took a stand against this price gouging TRIBBLE and per toon purchases!
does not subscribed to your hive mind and this is the only way you can justify
Good; enjoy your time and your money how you see fit. I don't think anyone here would debate that you have the right to do as you will.
However, I find it funny that you describe those of us saying "no" to this ridiculous pricing and blatent slap-in-the-face by PWE as the "hive mind." That is generally reserved for the flocks of sheep and mobs of lemmings who go, "OOOH SHIIIINY!" and drop cash on a whim.
I think our point is this: we (the aforementioned "hive mind," in your words) seem to all pay for certain items, but THIS one is too much for too little - and is, quite simply, an insult to the players who DO support STO monetarily as well as by creating the fan/player base.
Lastly, this is a hobby to a great many folks. As such, they DO have stake in the game, its play, and its outcome, and have every right to state their feelings, insights, and suggestions here - that's why these forums exist. Not deluded enough to think the Devs read every entry (especially ones that need a publisher and/or a page count...), but I know they do pay some attention to things said herein.
Incidentally, when they start selling bridges with players' names on them in the Z-store, well, I hope you enjoy that one, too...
Fleet Commander
Caprica's Revenge (...actually active since November 2010, which may one day be important to archaeologists, but not to anyone else...)
I wouldn't mind an original series EVA suit like Kirk and Spock had in the "Tholian Web" episode...
That would be awesome. What about adding this option to the current EV suit offering? Might take SOME of the bad taste out of everyone's mouth from this fiasco.
Protip: If you expect people to read a wall-o-text argument, don't lead into it with abuse in the first paragraph.
QFT.
Back to the discussion at hand, yeah, 700 Zen is too expensive, after all, even the weapon pack is almost a Quarter of that. If it were the same price as the weapon pack, or redonkculously good stats to warrant the massive price tag, it would have sold much better. Why? Cause then I would have bought one. Not at the moment however.
im just wondering are they effective against thoalin's?
Certainly, or, at least, almost as well as the ones that drop for free according to the stats...
Fleet Commander
Caprica's Revenge (...actually active since November 2010, which may one day be important to archaeologists, but not to anyone else...)
Fleet Commander
Caprica's Revenge (...actually active since November 2010, which may one day be important to archaeologists, but not to anyone else...)
why does cryptic always get the pricing so wong 700zens for a suit when u can get them free is silly i may have thought about getting one if they were 100zens hell even 100 is pushing it.
sticking to my doff packs at least they have a chance for an ultra rare
The KDF one in particular is very... pretty, if it was maybe 150 or so Zzz points (max), I could see myself getting one at some point.
My Z come from either stipend (ie, my salary) or ingame Dil conversion (my free time). Either way, I consider carefully before I part with any and 700 for what basically amounts to one cosmetic item on one character does not, in my opinion, give value for money.
- Redneck Academy - / Legio XVI 'CARDASSIA'
All generalizations are false, including this one.
- Mark Twain
I feel like buying one JUST because so many people are appalled at the price. Kind of the same reason I bought a gold trimmed EV suit.
If that's your way of expressing individuality, then more power to you...
Of course, it's kind of like those folks who, in response to the majority claim that SUVs suck up a lot of gas and have diminishing returns, ran out to buy them anyway, JUST because so many opposed them...
Those SUV owners are generally walking...or trading in for fuel-efficient vehicles nowadays.
Good luck to you!
Fleet Commander
Caprica's Revenge (...actually active since November 2010, which may one day be important to archaeologists, but not to anyone else...)
That's irrelevant. There are not many smartarses or lifeless grinders (pick one) like you.
I saw one guy in the fed suit the other day. Yep.
Anyway, if that's the price, so be it. I have my Skoda, I don't need BMW. But cheers to the mighty BMW-ers.
Whatever we deny or embrace, we belong togheter./ Pat Benatar
That's irrelevant. There are not many smartarses or lifeless grinders (pick one) like you.
I saw one guy in the fed suit the other day. Yep.
Anyway, if that's the price, so be it. I have my Skoda, I don't need BMW. But cheers to the mighty BMW-ers.
Smart Asses? Lifeless Grinders? Actually I was referring to the fact that I get gift cards from my employer, that I cash in on zen cards. Not much else I buy at these stores... How typical though, attack the person who earns more and wants to use it.
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Marketing guys - wtf? There are account wide ships available for less, which have more value to me than an item with mediocre stats. (Including newer ships that haven't depreciated in value yet like those that have been available for some time)
I'm not one to usually comment on this stuff, since I know the company needs to make money this way, but PWE is not doing themselves a service with this absurd price point on a per-character basis. (meh...maybe they are, LOL, would be interesting to see the purchase metrics)
tl;dr?
No thanks, adjust price and/or account wide unlock (both factions), and I'll reconsider.
Ouchies in the heart, meowz says.
~ Meow
Original Join Date: January 30th, 2010
I just have to say this... But your posts and your wording/spelling twists always makes me chuckle! Kudos to you! lol.
On topic tho... Even tho I've said it all already myself, I agree with all you've said!
So let us get this straight, I am a huge Star Trek fan. I grew up on it and have watched every incarnation except Enterprise (I've only seen a few episodes of that). I am also, for the record, UNEMPLOYED. Meaning that no one, including Cryptic/PWE has me as an employee at this time. Some people with their conspiracy theories may still have a small seed of doubt in their mind regarding this because the thought pattern is usually "well, he has to deny it, it's his job". Let me rip that seed out of the ground and stomp on it.
I have been here since the game went free to play and I enjoy the hell out of it. Yes it has it's bugs and it's quirks and can sometimes (very rarely for me) be annoying. However, I play this game to have fun and relax *gasp*. I don't take it as serious as the most of you do. I just log in, blow some things up, make up character stories for the why's and how's of some missions and log off. Sometimes I even log in to blow off some steam. It's a nice release for me in a genre that I adore. OH and it's free to play. Coming in as a new player was interesting because while I enjoyed the game coming to the forums and reading some of the chat all I heard was a lot of people (note I didn't say all) B**ching and Whining EVERY DAY about something cryptic did or didn't do or that PWE is doing and BLAH BLAH BLAH. Seriously, there should be a replicator only dedicated to cheeses because of all the whine! So much hate that to my thought process would make any newbie balk at going forward. I rarely if ever let other peoples thoughts and rants dissuade me from things I want to do, so I moved on and *gasp* had fun playing. I am the type of person that keeps things in perspective. My perspective thus far is this:
This is not my sandbox. I am allowed to be in here by the graces of Cryptic/PWE (and so are you). PWE runs the show and tells Cryptic what to do. They DELEGATE their wants for what works in their business model. Cryptic carries out their orders like good soldiers. Cryptic does what they can within the boundaries that have been put upon them by PWE and CBS and whomever else they have to answer to. They give us the fans what they can at the time given and -when- they can. They do what they can with the resources they have. Resources that have recently grown according to some of the interviews recently. With the new employees coming in and those that are leaving or have left, I'm sure there is going to be a new acclimation period that they are going to have to go through and that will take time. There will also be trial and error as with ANY game out there. Sometimes it happens a lot, sometimes only a little. There will be things that go wrong because that is life. Will I let it get to me? Nope. If I feel the need to voice it, I will. But that is where it will end because I have other things to do than Nerd Rage all over the boards and the chats because I feel I have some imagined sense of importance or ownership or stake in this game. I don't. I just go with the flow and let the rest roll off my back. Log in, play, log out. If it all crashed and burned tomorrow, I would just walk away and remember the fun I had.
With that said, I had an extra twenty dollars last week (or maybe it was this week) and I bought some Zen, because I'll support the game if I have the extra cash. This place aint run for free ya know? It's actually a business! I bought some keys for the new lockboxes. I bought a Delta Flyer for use in the Vault. With the left over money I got the new suit. Cryptic/PWE already had my money days prior and so I decided to where to allocate the Zen funds. It was no big deal and it made me happy to do so on the one character account that I have. And it's all about my happiness after all.
Clearly a Cryptic/PWE employee wouldn't have stated anything like the above, lest they be a -former- Cryptic/PWE employee. You know...jobless.
These aren't the suits we're looking for...
Its cool to see someone who actually picked up the suit. I'm of the same mind that Cryptic needs to make money to keep the lights on and keep the game I like so much running. So I have no problem with people giving money to Cryptic.
I think its the fear of single toon and not redeemable again unlocks that also scares people about this and its not just the higher then usual price.
F2P STO is still kinda new and most I think are still seeing where Cryptic is gonig with all of this. Cryptic will have the metrics to see how this item made more/less money for them then the other costume packs and ships. And that's what will really make their future decisions.
This sums up my thoughts! Reading through this thread. I have to say, it's about time everyone finally took a stand against this price gouging TRIBBLE and per toon purchases!
Good; enjoy your time and your money how you see fit. I don't think anyone here would debate that you have the right to do as you will.
However, I find it funny that you describe those of us saying "no" to this ridiculous pricing and blatent slap-in-the-face by PWE as the "hive mind." That is generally reserved for the flocks of sheep and mobs of lemmings who go, "OOOH SHIIIINY!" and drop cash on a whim.
I think our point is this: we (the aforementioned "hive mind," in your words) seem to all pay for certain items, but THIS one is too much for too little - and is, quite simply, an insult to the players who DO support STO monetarily as well as by creating the fan/player base.
Lastly, this is a hobby to a great many folks. As such, they DO have stake in the game, its play, and its outcome, and have every right to state their feelings, insights, and suggestions here - that's why these forums exist. Not deluded enough to think the Devs read every entry (especially ones that need a publisher and/or a page count...), but I know they do pay some attention to things said herein.
Incidentally, when they start selling bridges with players' names on them in the Z-store, well, I hope you enjoy that one, too...
Fleet Commander
Caprica's Revenge
(...actually active since November 2010, which may one day be important to archaeologists, but not to anyone else...)
That would be awesome. What about adding this option to the current EV suit offering? Might take SOME of the bad taste out of everyone's mouth from this fiasco.
How nice for you.
Protip: If you expect people to read a wall-o-text argument, don't lead into it with abuse in the first paragraph.
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] "I weary of the chase. Wait for me. I shall be merciful and quick."
QFT.
Back to the discussion at hand, yeah, 700 Zen is too expensive, after all, even the weapon pack is almost a Quarter of that. If it were the same price as the weapon pack, or redonkculously good stats to warrant the massive price tag, it would have sold much better. Why? Cause then I would have bought one. Not at the moment however.
Certainly, or, at least, almost as well as the ones that drop for free according to the stats...
Fleet Commander
Caprica's Revenge
(...actually active since November 2010, which may one day be important to archaeologists, but not to anyone else...)
Vice Admiral Volmack ISS Thundermole
Brigadier General Jokag IKS Gorkan
Centurion Kares RRW Tomalak
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
Can I get five of them?
Let us upgrade the Seleya Ceremonial Lirpa and Kri'stak Blade
Yep - only 700 Zen each!
Fleet Commander
Caprica's Revenge
(...actually active since November 2010, which may one day be important to archaeologists, but not to anyone else...)
sticking to my doff packs at least they have a chance for an ultra rare
NO.
(lurking cloak reactivated)
My Z come from either stipend (ie, my salary) or ingame Dil conversion (my free time). Either way, I consider carefully before I part with any and 700 for what basically amounts to one cosmetic item on one character does not, in my opinion, give value for money.
All generalizations are false, including this one.
- Mark Twain
If that's your way of expressing individuality, then more power to you...
Of course, it's kind of like those folks who, in response to the majority claim that SUVs suck up a lot of gas and have diminishing returns, ran out to buy them anyway, JUST because so many opposed them...
Those SUV owners are generally walking...or trading in for fuel-efficient vehicles nowadays.
Good luck to you!
Fleet Commander
Caprica's Revenge
(...actually active since November 2010, which may one day be important to archaeologists, but not to anyone else...)
I saw one guy in the fed suit the other day. Yep.
Anyway, if that's the price, so be it. I have my Skoda, I don't need BMW. But cheers to the mighty BMW-ers.
Smart Asses? Lifeless Grinders? Actually I was referring to the fact that I get gift cards from my employer, that I cash in on zen cards. Not much else I buy at these stores... How typical though, attack the person who earns more and wants to use it.