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Season 6 Dev Blog #16
pwebranflakes
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Lead Designer Al "CaptainGeko" Rivera shares details about Fleet Ships in this entry of the Season 6 News Dev Blog series.
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possible error in the fed ship chart
fleet exploration cruiser- that ship cant use the celestial and envoy costumes if it is also going to saucer separate. also its stats are terrible, but thats got nothing to do with the chart. (terrible you say? well how do i fix that DDIS?)
fleet advanced escort- this ship is currently NOT in the ship store ui still, we have no idea what its station setup of other stats will be yet. it also shows NONE in the bonus category, when it does show up, will it not be able to use the MVAM console?
Now it's official, new c-store or fleet ships are far better than free ones. This is a major change in STO. Why did it happen? Isn't the game supposed to be free to play instead of pay to win?
God, lvl 60 CW. 17k.
"Critics who say that the optimistic utopia Star Trek depicted is now outmoded forget the cultural context that gave birth to it: Star Trek was not a manifestation of optimism when optimism was easy. Star Trek declared a hope for a future that nobody stuck in the present could believe in. For all our struggles today, we haven’t outgrown the need for stories like Star Trek. We need tales of optimism, of heroes, of courage and goodness now as much as we’ve ever needed them."
-Thomas Marrone
While 75% reduction would be nice, I recognize that wouldn't be entirely fair since T5 ships in the c-store cost more than lower-tier ships, but any discount would be rational and fair, in my opinion. For instance the Fleet Science Vessel (Nova-class) could have a 25% discount, and require only 3 Fleet Modules if you had already bought the Rhode Island refit. I know the conversion rates would not entirely match up. For instance 750 ZEN x 3 = 2,250. Which doesn't quite equal the 2,500 price tag of a top-of-the-line T5 ship.
Still, any discount would be better than no discount at all, even if it's a reduction of just one fleet module.
Just my 2 EC.
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Now shaddup about the queues, it's a BUG
IIRC, there was a problem with the coding in the system that was not exactly a trivial thing to fix. The Galaxy bundle would have had the Tier 4.5 Venture Refit, the T5 Galaxy Retrofit, and the Galaxy Dreadnought. However, if you had bought any one of these vessels before you would be unable to claim the bundle. I don't work for Cryptic, so I don't know the exact coding infrastructure -- but while it would appear easy to fix on paper, we were told it was shelved until the systems guys could fix it accurately... and time was better spent working on other broken systems in the game.
CBS Studios doesn't want a T5 Connie in the game (this has been stated multiple times by multiple devs). While I do think the other variants would be great (I do like the Excalibur), it'd allow a T5 Connie into the game. Cryptic Studios could just remove the Connie variant -- but I think that'd just anger players even more since a lot of players do want the T5 Connie, and a Fleet Cruiser retrofit would just make things worse if it hit the game without a Connie skin.
That said, I would love a T5 Excalibur/Vesper/Exeter. More ship diversity = a good thing.
lots of opportunities missed
and KDF Tier 5 looks extremely uninteresting.
putting the Odyssey and Bortas at Tier 5 only makes it look more, but those are the same old ships we already got FOR FREE, those should be Tier 1 for the few players who missed the 2 day window and instead have some real meat at Tier 5!
But again, it probably has to do with Cryptic not wanting to anger players by shipping a Fleet Cruiser Retrofit without a Connie skin. More people want a T5 Connie than a T5 Excalibur/Vesper/Exeter. And they're all the same skins for the same exact ship.
Yes, the Connie skin probably has a great deal to do with it. And it's because players would riot even more than they already have been since game launch for a T5 Connie. A Fleet Cruiser Retrofit without a Connie skin is a slap in the face to the people who have clamored and begged for a T5 Connie.
IF YOU ARE READING MY SIG - THEN YOU ARE DOING IT WRONG
If people stopped to constantly ask for it i'm sure it would have stayed in the fleetyard.
God, lvl 60 CW. 17k.
(New ship = new... not something taken from the c-store, turned blue then being sold for more)
only new ship on there is the aqarius thingy.
they have a number of ships in game that cant be used by the players that could most likely make them money (Typhoon,Jupiter, Numerous Nuasicaan,Gorn and Orion npc ships)
False equivelancy. While I'm sure they'd make more money from Fleet Modules by offering an Excalibur/Vesper/Exeter, the backlash from the playerbase probably would not be worth it. Then again, maybe it would. Keep in mind that the lock boxes were also regulated by CBS Studios' wishes that the ultra-rare ships remain ultra-rare and not commonly accessible by any player. If they tell Cryptic to jump, Cryptic's only response is to ask 'How high?'. If CBS Studios doesn't want a T5 Connie in the game, a T5 Connie doesn't get put in the game. If they want lock boxes in the game, Cryptic puts lock boxes in the game. There doesn't need to be any logic involved -- they own the license, they set the rules however rational or irrational they may be.
starfleet would not have built a ship like the excalibur anyway, and cbs knows it. ships that small are built in shapes like the saber, only the largest ships have a traditional layout. a saber design does a beter job maximizing usable space, it needs to because when it was launched its considered a small ship, even though its volume is greater then the connies. modern large ships in traditional configuration are large enough that thier shape does not limit usable space.
TL;DR the excaliber should not even exist.
Different skin, same ship. More people want a T5 Connie than a T5 Excalibur/Vesper/Exeter. There have been more threads about having a T5 Connie than any of the other skins. It'd be a slap in the face to the other players who have asked for it for over 2 years.
While I do agree with you, a T5 Excalibur/Vesper/Exeter would be awesome... I wouldn't want it at the cost of insulting the players who have wanted a T5 Connie since game launch.
I don't like lock boxes either, but I don't think because Cryptic has ticked off a bunch of players that they should keep ticking them off. It doesn't have to be a Pandora's Box. You tick them off once, you're free to do it as often as possible. It doesn't have to work like that, and it's honestly not a good business move on their part to do just that. I'm on your side when I say I would like a T5 Excalibur, I really am. But I don't think it's wise to tick off a bunch of players just to get it in the game. Because they would be ticked they got every skin except the one they've always wanted for the same exact ship.
This is all I'm saying on the matter. At this point we'll just argue in circles. We can agree to disagree.
Seriously, these are per character ships. A lot of people have alts. Paying nearly as much as an Account Ship crazy. All the fleet ships should be 500 Zen.
"Currently, all Fleet ships are Tier 5 and typically have +10% Hull HP and +10% Shields; they also typically come with a 10th console slot"
so the man himself says fleet ships are tier 5 but better!
-_-
i dont want to live on this planet anymore....
CBS isn't the reason for the lockboxes, PWE is. CBS is a convenient excuse, and nothing more. CBS didn't want some ships available to just anyone, true, but PWE needed some reason for people to want to buy the keys for the lockboxes and told CBS they could all win if CBS allowed those ships to only be available via lockboxes (CBS wins because not everyone can get the ships, PWE wins because they get their cash grab lockboxes). The problem I have with CBS is that it is obvious they don't care what Cryptic/PWE are doing to the franchise. I for one will be very wary of any Star Trek games that come out in the future. Unfortunately I'm a lifer here so I won't just get up and quit, but I guarantee I won't spend another cent on this game as long as this BS continues.