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Right, I need something to distract me from the sadness that is the the new forum, and the fact that until week's end (at earliest) I can't buy the Armitage or anything else in the C Store due to some problems with my debit card.
So, going off of the assumption that they will eventually make a tier 5 Nova (which is admittedly not certain and something I don't really want to discuss right now) what would you recommend for its special console?
The Thunderchild had the point defense turret while the Armitage has the photon defense turret, so maybe some T5 Nova only varient of the Photonic Displacement? Perhaps one that duplicates a bit more seamlessly, (and noticeably for PvP) letting you attack from just below the projection. (Because, of course, being close with return fire would only matter with torpedoes, and even then only if it had a timed fuse rather than impact detonation they normally have)
Or, you know, it could be something closer to the Photonic Fleet, how about a console that lets you project a hologram of the Ody (and about as powerful as the 3 from photonic fleet combined) once every three minutes?
I don't want to suggest it has to be something photonic, I'm just extrapolating from the current example of the Akira. Plus, you know, not sure what other science-y powers you could run with.
You could also run with the whole Equinox thing, give it a console that effects speed somehow. Though that one seems less likely as there is already a similar one for both in combat and other stuff to boost sector space speed.
A console to make Tyken's Rifts (or Gravity Wells, though that one could be OP) that latch onto the target and follow them to a limited extent, making them harder to escape?
Or how about something like how Lt. Burke of the Equinox beamed the field emitter device right off of Voyager? Say a power similar to Viral Matrix, but done via transporter and with different effects - disabling projectile weapons only, but for twice as long, that sort of thing.
Another bit of inspiration from the same incident, but less spectacular - a console giving a passive power making things like boarding parties much less effective (like the modular force fields used against the 'spirits of good fortune')
So, going off of the assumption that they will eventually make a tier 5 Nova (which is admittedly not certain and something I don't really want to discuss right now) what would you recommend for its special console?
The Thunderchild had the point defense turret while the Armitage has the photon defense turret, so maybe some T5 Nova only varient of the Photonic Displacement? Perhaps one that duplicates a bit more seamlessly, (and noticeably for PvP) letting you attack from just below the projection. (Because, of course, being close with return fire would only matter with torpedoes, and even then only if it had a timed fuse rather than impact detonation they normally have)
Or, you know, it could be something closer to the Photonic Fleet, how about a console that lets you project a hologram of the Ody (and about as powerful as the 3 from photonic fleet combined) once every three minutes?
I don't want to suggest it has to be something photonic, I'm just extrapolating from the current example of the Akira. Plus, you know, not sure what other science-y powers you could run with.
You could also run with the whole Equinox thing, give it a console that effects speed somehow. Though that one seems less likely as there is already a similar one for both in combat and other stuff to boost sector space speed.
A console to make Tyken's Rifts (or Gravity Wells, though that one could be OP) that latch onto the target and follow them to a limited extent, making them harder to escape?
Or how about something like how Lt. Burke of the Equinox beamed the field emitter device right off of Voyager? Say a power similar to Viral Matrix, but done via transporter and with different effects - disabling projectile weapons only, but for twice as long, that sort of thing.
Another bit of inspiration from the same incident, but less spectacular - a console giving a passive power making things like boarding parties much less effective (like the modular force fields used against the 'spirits of good fortune')
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But the deflector idea isn't shabby, though it would be a bit weird to see something like the deflector blast from Best of Both Worlds on a Nova rather than Galaxy.
so you could drop you shields for say 4 seconds completely and when they come back online you get max shields with high regen and damage resistance for say 15seconds?
Sort of like the Ablative Armour, only for shields. would give you a chance to plow through an enemy group and out the other side to draw their attn.
I'd be willing to shell out some c-point for this...
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Very nice idea -
A) definitely science feel to it
C) Actually used in canon by the ship that would get it.
D) Also has the advantage of being easier to balance than a lot of the console powers - since you are very open to attack while it is working. Though I guess it would make hull plating a more important power again.
Although I got the impression that any ship could do this, its just that in a traditional space fight it would be nearly suicide. I could be wrong though.
In a general way you can divide the consoles into a couple categories - dps, defense, science control powers (some dps too) and passive buffs like the transwarp cooldown.
The shield one above is a great defensive idea, a nice counterpoint for the ablative generator.
What about control options? The 'sticky' gravity well could work, but might be OP (and not as useful in PVE where the mobs don't actively flee it much anyway)
How about a way to disable launchers on an enemy ship? Some science technobable that basically blocks things like torpedo ports and hanger bays? Kindof like gumming up a gun barrel? I don't know, it would be cool, but disproportionately damaging to enemy torp boats and carriers, while not very useful at all against things like beam cruisers.
Surely there are other cool idea out there?
I have wanted a T5 Nova since the beginning, and I like this console idea.
(The upgraded photonic displacement idea is good too.)
Boarding parties are already a complete joke. If you aren't running at least one copy of TT1, I'd say you have much bigger things to worry about than a boarding party.
This is something I've always thought would be nice to have. High risk, but if it replenishes your shield entirely or almost entirely, the reward is also extremely high.
The problem there, again, is that something like that feels more like a galaxy console than something the Nova would have.
Humm, how about something using space gasses? Granted, that was more spectacularly used by Riker in Insurrection, but Ransom was known for hiding in atmo. Perhaps a fly by to dump a gas on a ship that makes it take a lot higher damage until it can clear the debuff? Or conversely degrades accuracy or makes torps/mines blow up prematurely?
Honestly though, at this point I'd buy a T5 Nova even if it had the exact same stats as the Luna and never switch back to anything else.
EDIT: Nevermind just listened to the Priority One Interview with Al Rivera, who says there's going to be a Tier 5 Nova and Saber at some point.
Tribble says the fleet science vessel retrofit is Tier 3 Military.
I wonder what the boff and console layout will be like.
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Where'd you find the stats?
All i found on tribble was the list of what the ships were that are available.
The same way, KDF ships are shown in the Qo'nos shipyard (and probably all the other ship requisition centers).
EDIT: Of course, I mean on Tribble.
Toi'Va, Ti'vath, Toivia, Ty'Vris, Tia Vex, Toi'Virth: Add Tier 6 KDF Carrier and Raider.
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T3 military isn't as bad as I was thinking it would be. Granted, with a fleet of 2 it will take some doing, but you know what? This is something I don't mind working for at ALL.
Of course, since an LtC. tac is the ship I've been wanting for ages. I am going to grab the first one my fleet requisitions.
Toi'Va, Ti'vath, Toivia, Ty'Vris, Tia Vex, Toi'Virth: Add Tier 6 KDF Carrier and Raider.
Tae'Va, T'Vaya, To'Var, Tevra, T'Vira, To'Vrak: Give us Asylums for Romulans.
Don't make ARC mandatory! Keep it optional only!
Well those fall under the category of being a crappier luna.
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The Science Vessel Retrofit has the same console and Boff Layout as the luna with less shields, a lower shield modifier and less hull, but with 1 degree/sec more turn-rate. It's also going to be much, much harder to get, so it's not really worth it.
The Fleet Science Vessel retrofit, on the other hand, has a LtC Tac slot, which could be very useful. It still has stats lower than the Recon Science Vessel, but they are better than the SV-R. Unfortunately, it still has the same console layout as the RSV (strange since every other fleet retrofit has ten consoles, so I would have expected the FSV-R to have 2 eng 4 sci and 4 tac given the tactical bent it has).
I think the SV-R would be better off having the stats and console layout it has but with a LtC. tac boff slot, to give it a bit more advantage over the RSV, and more reason to actually get one.
Wait - I thought all of the Fleet ships were going to have 10 consoles? Could it be a bug?
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i think its great cryptic are doing this tbh
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http://www.flickr.com/photos/r-et/7475976888/in/photostream/lightbox/ fleet retrofit at current
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vesta will probably have cannons though
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