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Random PvP Thoughts

mustrumridcully0mustrumridcully0 Member Posts: 12,963 Arc User
edited July 2012 in PvP Gameplay
I think we need one. Post your random PvP thought of the day, be it a word, a sentence or several paragraphs, be it an observation, a question, a remark, a witty comment, a complaint, an inspiration.

My random thought was this:

The Rythm of PvP is determined by cooldowns and durations.

15 seconds System Cooldown.
30 seconds EPTS, duration, 30 seconds global, 60 second cooldown, 30 seconds to next EPtS
10 Seconds Cannon Rapid Fire III, 30 seconds global, 60 seconds cooldows, 30 seconds to Cannon Scatter Volley I
Beam Overload 1 shot in the next 30 second, 30 second global, 60 second cooldown
Transfer Shield Strength 15 secnd duration, 45 second cooldown, 30 second global
Tactical Team, 10 second duration ,30 second global
Enemy RSP running out in 10 seconds
Next Allied Subnuke in 20 seconds
Tactical Initiative ready in the next 30 seconds

Mustrum "I could probably describe PvP with Temporal Logic" Ridcully
Star Trek Online Advancement: You start with lowbie gear, you end with Lobi gear.
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  • drkfrontiersdrkfrontiers Member Posts: 2,477 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    When you suddenly realise that you are rushing around the house to get things done, so you can get back to dying :)

    And will someone for the love of ..., please tell me why I am an ensign!!!!
  • mavairomavairo Member Posts: 579
    edited June 2012
    "I shouldn't be able to kill you...in my shuttle"

    Or are you meaning something a little less, humorous? (though I was serious when I told someone this)
  • thisslerthissler Member Posts: 2,055 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    Why does cooldown seem to mean something different to each person in this game?

    Is anyone that uses Tractor Beam spam going to hell, or just Federation players?

    Why is inertia reversed in this game anyway?
  • thishorizonthishorizon Member Posts: 1,158
    edited June 2012
    i have recently put all my weapons on autofire except my dbb and/or torp.

    did you know you can only hit 3 buttons at a time in this game? or something like that....

    my weapons and powers had been misfiring a ton. now they don't.

    i should prolly get around to keybinds and the such.

    but yes. cooldowns. ummmmm...yeah.

    now i dont miss them as often! yay efficiency!

    have fun kill bad guys

    horizon
  • matcapcrapticpwematcapcrapticpwe Member Posts: 11 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    people start to win when stop complaining

    matcap
  • mavairomavairo Member Posts: 579
    edited June 2012
    i have recently put all my weapons on autofire except my dbb and/or torp.

    did you know you can only hit 3 buttons at a time in this game? or something like that....

    my weapons and powers had been misfiring a ton. now they don't.

    i should prolly get around to keybinds and the such.

    but yes. cooldowns. ummmmm...yeah.

    now i dont miss them as often! yay efficiency!

    have fun kill bad guys

    horizon

    That is actually a limitation of a non gaming keyboard called ghosting. This game does suffer from lost commands but the input number seems to be well over 7 abilities "simultaneously".
  • corsair114corsair114 Member Posts: 276
    edited June 2012
    Don't leave home without your DOff's equipped. They're every bit as important a piece of equipment as your shields (NOTE to KDF: Not if you're doing "A Good Day to Die") and guns.
  • thishorizonthishorizon Member Posts: 1,158
    edited June 2012
    corsair114 wrote: »
    Don't leave home without your DOff's equipped. They're every bit as important a piece of equipment as your shields (NOTE to KDF: Not if you're doing "A Good Day to Die") and guns.

    well then im not timing them right mav.

    some have a .5 sec activate, some 1 sec activate.

    im just here to kill things, you know?
  • ebeneezergoodeebeneezergoode Member Posts: 227 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    APD: More useful than it looks.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • thishorizonthishorizon Member Posts: 1,158
    edited June 2012
    APD: More useful than it looks.

    qft

    have fun kill bad guys
  • mustrumridcully0mustrumridcully0 Member Posts: 12,963 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    thissler wrote: »
    Why does cooldown seem to mean something different to each person in this game?
    Because there are so many things that act as cooldown?
    • Global Cooldown
    • System Cooldown
    • Power Cooldown (Actually this may be called Recharge)
    #

    More confusing are hull resistance and shield resistance (or rather: shield damage reduction), and the way they stack internally (each differently) and on each other (not at all or only indirectly).
    Star Trek Online Advancement: You start with lowbie gear, you end with Lobi gear.
  • captkirrahecaptkirrahe Member Posts: 117 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    Is unhappy more players have Jem ships thanks to recent promo; doesn't feel as special in mine anymore.:frown:

    Also at work so will be pvping against customers!:wink:
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
    Your Ramming Speed III deals 52098 (99235) Kinetic Damage(Critical) to Remus.
  • aytanhiaytanhi Member Posts: 107 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    Hopefully the new STO Starbases will give us acces to even better ships.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
    Aytanhi of TSI, TSI fleet founder and leader OrganizedPVP channel Admin
    Feel free to ask me about PVP or starship strategies. "No, I am not Borg!"
    /channel_join OrganizedPVP If you are interested in learning PVP, looking for a team, or a private match
  • webdeathwebdeath Member Posts: 1,570 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    Some times I have to wonder which is more important.. the state of PVP and helping the new players...

    Or the Drama that the PVPers make for themselves and share on the forums.
    You think that your beta test was bad?
    Think about this:
    American Football has been in open beta for 144 years. ~Kotaku
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • aytanhiaytanhi Member Posts: 107 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    webdeath wrote: »
    Or the Drama that the PVPers make for themselves and share on the forums.

    Which really needs to stop NOW.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
    Aytanhi of TSI, TSI fleet founder and leader OrganizedPVP channel Admin
    Feel free to ask me about PVP or starship strategies. "No, I am not Borg!"
    /channel_join OrganizedPVP If you are interested in learning PVP, looking for a team, or a private match
  • captkirrahecaptkirrahe Member Posts: 117 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    Ive been using Emergency power to Aux in my build recently and apart from improving my healing, I love the animation on the ship that goes with it :P
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
    Your Ramming Speed III deals 52098 (99235) Kinetic Damage(Critical) to Remus.
  • mustrumridcully0mustrumridcully0 Member Posts: 12,963 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    I wonder who will take over, if any, when Gozer leaves? Will there ever be a PvP Season?
    Star Trek Online Advancement: You start with lowbie gear, you end with Lobi gear.
  • havamhavam Member Posts: 1,735 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    I wonder who will take over, if any, when Gozer leaves? Will there ever be a PvP Season?

    take over what exactly? General brainstorming about things that one could do? If Devs need at least 6 month to get the ropes and become a productive member of the team....well S7 is about story, S9 seems like a realistic time for thinking about pvp again.
  • thisslerthissler Member Posts: 2,055 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    Is there even a displayed Global cool down in this game? Cause when I activate a power all my powers do not go on a brief CD where I can't activate them. So no global cool down. Unless "Global" in this game means "Not Global" but just "Some Stuff".

    I guess a system cool down must be where if you activate one power in a system all powers in that system go on a cool down for at least the duration of the activated powers effect.

    I dunno imma start drinking again. any suggestions?
  • lostusthornlostusthorn Member Posts: 844
    edited June 2012
    There is a global cooldown for the same kind of skill, for example rapid fire, you can have multiple copies of it, but when you activte one, all other go into a 15second cooldown as well. while the rapid fire you activated has a 30 second cooldown.
    Or torpedoes have a 1 second global cooldown, which means that no matter how many launchers you have, you won't be fireing more then 1 launcher per second.
  • mustrumridcully0mustrumridcully0 Member Posts: 12,963 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    thissler wrote: »
    Is there even a displayed Global cool down in this game? Cause when I activate a power all my powers do not go on a brief CD where I can't activate them. So no global cool down. Unless "Global" in this game means "Not Global" but just "Some Stuff".

    I guess a system cool down must be where if you activate one power in a system all powers in that system go on a cool down for at least the duration of the activated powers effect.

    I dunno imma start drinking again. any suggestions?
    It's not TOR global. I'd call it more shared cooldown, but that was also sometimes the name for the system cooldown. Snix used the term Global Cooldown.
    Star Trek Online Advancement: You start with lowbie gear, you end with Lobi gear.
  • bitemepwebitemepwe Member Posts: 6,760 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    Beer mmmmmmmmmmmm

    Smoke mmmmmmmmmmmmm

    Look an escort that survives like a cruiser.........

    Why'd I just put Extend shields 2 on that Tricobalt torpedo?

    OmK, it survived the Bfaw field and killed the escort!!!

    Celebratory beer mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

    celebratory smoke mmmmmmmmmmmm
    Leonard Nimoy, Spock.....:(

    R.I.P
  • webdeathwebdeath Member Posts: 1,570 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    It took 2 Years to get a developer to start to take full time notice of PVP...

    Will it take another 2 Years before that not only happens again, but we actually get the PVP that we sorely need? One that is fun for everyone. One that provides Rewards that we can all enjoy and use. And one that is balanced beyond what we have currently. And one that we can stop complaining about and start praising...
    You think that your beta test was bad?
    Think about this:
    American Football has been in open beta for 144 years. ~Kotaku
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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  • husanakxhusanakx Member Posts: 1,608 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    sophlogimo wrote: »
    We need a 1v1 queue.

    Yawn... we have a challenge system use it all you want.

    3v3 perhaps.... still not needed. But at least that could be interesting... honestly though 3v3 would really really make pug vs premade an issue... one junk teammate and its pretty much over. At least in a 5v5 if it ends up being 5v3 it can still be a good match... a friend and I beat up some feds the other night 2v5 that was fun.

    1v1 outside of shuttle vs shuttle or escort vs escort ... its like watching paint dry.
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  • captkirrahecaptkirrahe Member Posts: 117 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    sophlogimo wrote: »
    We need a 1v1 queue.


    We don't need a 1v1 Queue, there are already easy ways to 1v1 in game, how many mmos have you played with 1v1 queues in them anyway?

    There is a reason they are not integrated often if at all, PVP combat in classed based mmos
    is not balanced via 1v1!

    WRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGH
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
    Your Ramming Speed III deals 52098 (99235) Kinetic Damage(Critical) to Remus.
  • mustrumridcully0mustrumridcully0 Member Posts: 12,963 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    I can no longer fly healing Cruisers. I thought I was doing okay once. But these days, when I play with a Cruiser, I suck. :frown:
    Star Trek Online Advancement: You start with lowbie gear, you end with Lobi gear.
  • dontdrunkimshootdontdrunkimshoot Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    I can no longer fly healing Cruisers. I thought I was doing okay once. But these days, when I play with a Cruiser, I suck. :frown:

    ive found that im incapable of focusing more on the team mates that need heals then i am on killing this guy im shooting at, guess thats why i resign myself to playing what im flying as tactically as possible, and why i haven't touched my engineers in months. i still through about 5 times the number of heals then the majority of pub mates though.

    i sort oh hate that killing and healing are of equal importance in this game, this is the 1 mmo that doesn't have magic in it that can explain everything, star ships healing as effectively as they can damage is absurd, and an affront to the ip.

    nothing around here seems more sacred then the team. glory to the team, which is what mmo game play is about, and those who are loners are playing wrong.

    nah, i like loose teams fine, i just don't like that healing is as as good, more powerful, and more impotent in a match, then killing the enemy. it makes a talented team invincible, you cant even TRIBBLE their armor unless you bring an equally good team.

    teems shouldn't be able to give hit points faster then the enemy can take them away, instead of giving hitpoints they should only give resistance, it should be up to the player to repair his own ship.
  • mustrumridcully0mustrumridcully0 Member Posts: 12,963 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    I forgot how much things I take for granted.

    For example, the knowledge that you should run high weapon power, because it gives you the most bang for your buck (literally).

    So we shouldn't just teach distribute shields, EptS and tactical team. We must even teach weapon power is important if you want to damage. This may not be aimed so much at PvPers, but more at PvErs, but never the less.

    Startrek Online's PvE is way too easy if you know what you are doing. But if you don't know, you can be totally screwed in some situations, like when you try to deal with an enemy that can heal himself.
    Star Trek Online Advancement: You start with lowbie gear, you end with Lobi gear.
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