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  • captwcaptw Member Posts: 492 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    Mark X is not VA Gear at all, it is Rear Admiral Lower Half, Mark XI is Rear Admiral Upper Half, and MK XII is Vice Admiral.
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  • admrenlarreckadmrenlarreck Member Posts: 2,041 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    captw wrote: »
    Mark X is not VA Gear at all, it is Rear Admiral Lower Half, Mark XI is Rear Admiral Upper Half, and MK XII is Vice Admiral.


    As players this is how we see it.

    What PWE sees is that we as players at Admiral to Vice admiral are T5, And T5 equipment starts at MK IX. So getting a MK IX item is scaled to your level. aka Working as intended.
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  • roacquisitionroacquisition Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    captw wrote: »
    Mark X is not VA Gear at all, it is Rear Admiral Lower Half, Mark XI is Rear Admiral Upper Half, and MK XII is Vice Admiral.

    In your dreams. :biggrin: Would be nice if I would only loot MK XII gear...
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  • obertheromulanobertheromulan Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    In your dreams. :biggrin: Would be nice if I would only loot MK XII gear...

    Well the inferior uneven Mk gear can always drop. But Mk X is even another rank below that.
    Rear Admiral Lower Half is only half a rank, so I guess Mk XI would make sense, if you have a linear scaling.
    Mk X however doesn't.
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  • roacquisitionroacquisition Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    Well the inferior uneven Mk gear can always drop. But Mk X is even another rank below that.
    Rear Admiral Lower Half is only half a rank, so I guess Mk XI would make sense, if you have a linear scaling.
    Mk X however doesn't.

    This isn't the first thread about that topic. MK X scales your level, get used to it. And stop whining about free stuff. You expected too much.

    The only useful stuff in this box is dilithium, the xp boost for lower levels, the items are TRIBBLE anyways (I got a MK XI purple ground weapon, looked at it and laughed).
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  • obertheromulanobertheromulan Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    This isn't the first thread about that topic. MK X scales your level, get used to it. And stop whining about free stuff. You expected too much.

    The only useful stuff in this box is dilithium, the xp boost for lower levels, the items are TRIBBLE anyways (I got a MK XI purple ground weapon, looked at it and laughed).

    Yeah I expected to get what was being advertised. Pretty stupid considering it's coming from Cryptic/PWE eh?
    Well if it's true what I just read in another thread, that PvP is being removed.
    I couldn't give a damn anymore anyway. This game is dead to me.
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  • sollvaxsollvax Member Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    an Admiral is an admiral
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  • roacquisitionroacquisition Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    Yeah I expected to get what was being advertised. Pretty stupid considering it's coming from Cryptic/PWE eh?

    You got what was being advertised.
    Well if it's true what I just read in another thread, that PvP is being removed.

    That was a joke. If you select the black space you read: "Just kidding, I hope."
    I couldn't give a damn anymore anyway. This game is dead to me.

    Farewell.

    Have fun. :biggrin:
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  • obertheromulanobertheromulan Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    Well first off, thanks for pointing that out.
    Farewell as well.

    I will also stop to feed your trolling, of choosing to support the unpopular side of a valid complaint, and using nonsensical arguements, and not even caring about all the evidence to the contrary, simply to provoke a response.

    Have a nice day.
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  • roacquisitionroacquisition Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    Well first off, thanks for pointing that out.

    No prob.
    Farewell as well.

    No way this game gets rid of me.
    I will also stop to feed your trolling,

    I edited my post and I beg your pardon.
    of choosing to support the unpopular side of a valid complaint, and using nonsensical arguements, and not even caring about all the evidence to the contrary, simply to provoke a response.

    Sorry, but I only support logical and realistic sides. Just calm down, you will laugh tomorrow. :biggrin:
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  • tankalot42otankalot42o Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    i agree with the op
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  • beezle23beezle23 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    It is easy:

    Tier 1 MK I - II Ensign, Lieutenant
    Tier 2 MK III - IV Lieutenant Commander
    Tier 3 MK V - VI Commander
    Tier 4 MK VII - VIII Captain
    Tier 5 MK IX to XII Rear Admiral, Lower Half; Rear Admiral, Upper Half; Vice Admiral

    :tongue:

    That's what seems to be confusing people (or at least one person) -- "level appropriate" is calculated by Tier, not by Mark level. (Also why the random loot on STF's seems a bit weaksauce for VA's).

    To add to the fun, at least according to the wiki, there is no MK level assigned to VA/LG:

    Mark TBD -- Vice Admiral/Lieutenant General

    http://www.stowiki.org/Mark

    While I would agree that the Tier/Mark system needs a bit of rethinking (mostly adding a Tier level), as it stands now, Mk X is a normal random drop for a VA.
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  • sabrevt1100sabrevt1100 Member Posts: 83 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    I got a MK XI Mine launcher from the account link "promotion/forums demotion". I don't use mines. I like shooting mines though with FAW. Look a silver lining. I'll probably put it on the exchange or I might just dump it.

    TBH if would be better if you could transfer that worthless XP boost to a new character that you start. I really hate that "reward" is bound. All my toons are VA/LG with maxed out BOFFs. That piece was a waste. Well that and 5K unrefined dilithium. Would have been nice to get some C points maybe from the accounting linking.
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  • bumperthumperbumperthumper Member Posts: 513 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    When I clicked on the "Why are GMs so damn incompetant?" thread (moved), it sent me back to this thread. If a Mod sees this message, please fix it. They're entirely different, since when I do a rollover, the initial postings have different dialogue from each other.
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  • thepleasuredomethepleasuredome Member Posts: 308
    edited June 2012
    This isn't the first thread about that topic. MK X scales your level, get used to it. And stop whining about free stuff. You expected too much.

    Incorrect. Only MK-infinity symbol stuff scales to your level.

    Mk X is RA level stuff. That was max level gear when our max level was RAUH. MkXI was introduced when VA was introduced, and thus is VA gear.

    It would be nice is you post correct information before whining about other people whining.

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  • sean2448sean2448 Member Posts: 815 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    why stf's need to scale back to 40 to start
    what I don't get is why we get 10 in stf elite


    I don't know why we can't get 12 consoles in elite yet
  • psytce0002psytce0002 Member Posts: 157 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    OK ... Since the last post I wrote disappeared I decided to write it again...

    Once again one of my VA characters received a level appropriate weapon. This weapon was given to me as a gift when I linked my accounts. I was looking forward to this gift (You can stop laughing now I'm kidding) so since I'm a VA and have been using MK XII gear for about 2 years now I was surprised when my gift was a MK X :confused: Dual Heavy Cannon.

    I would just like Cryptic to fix this gross oversight. Everyone at Cryptic knows that a VA uses MK XII gear. All of the best STF Gear for VA "Captains" is MK XII ...

    So why is it that EVERY TIME I get level appropriate gear for my VA character I get MK X ????

    MK X is for RA's, not VA's

    PLEASE FIX THIS ....

    I am writing this in the forum because after reporting this problem to a in game GM I was told that this was working as intended and that I should bring my concerns to the forum, so here it is ....

    After 2 years of playing at VA and suffering without any content, why do we still get the wrong level gear whenever we get "Level Appropriate" gear ???

    Give us VA's MK XI at least, stop insulting all the VA's with MK X gear ....

    Thanks!
  • roacquisitionroacquisition Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    psytce0002 wrote: »
    OK ... Since the last post I wrote disappeared I decided to write it again...

    This one http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=279001? :biggrin:
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  • mikewendellmikewendell Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2012
  • retunred4goodretunred4good Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    When I clicked on the "Why are GMs so damn incompetant?" thread (moved), it sent me back to this thread. If a Mod sees this message, please fix it. They're entirely different, since when I do a rollover, the initial postings have different dialogue from each other.

    LOL Maybe thread isn't relevant, but the act is!
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  • kagurazaka77kagurazaka77 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    If it makes you feel any better, I got a MK XII purple quantum torpedo launcher ACC X3.
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  • sollvaxsollvax Member Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    Suggestion

    Escorts
    Lt T1
    Lt com T3
    Com T5
    Capt plus T7

    Science
    Lt T2
    Lt com T4
    Com T6
    Capt T8
    Admirals T10
    VA T12

    Cruisers
    Lt T2
    Lt com T4
    Com T6
    Capt T8
    Admiral plus T10
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  • defalusdefalus Member Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    sollvax wrote: »
    Suggestion

    Escorts
    Lt T1
    Lt com T3
    Com T5
    Capt plus T7

    Science
    Lt T2
    Lt com T4
    Com T6
    Capt T8
    Admirals T10
    VA T12

    Cruisers
    Lt T2
    Lt com T4
    Com T6
    Capt T8
    Admiral plus T10

    That leaves Escorts at a serious disadvantage at endgame and makes no sense, and why should all ships not go to T12?
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  • beezle23beezle23 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    Other Tiers are two levels, but Teir 5 covers four levels of gear...

    Proposal: just add a tier:

    Tier 5 MK IX to X Rear Admiral, Lower Half
    Tier 6 MK XI to XII Rear Admiral, Upper Half; Vice Admiral
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  • towanitowani Member Posts: 104 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    If it makes you feel any better, I got a MK XII purple quantum torpedo launcher ACC X3.

    Wow, really? That's insance. We should all get the same Mark whatever gear.

    Honestly, I was assuming we'd all get a Mark XI weapon. I mean, a lot do want Mark XII, but most have only Mark XI. But Mark X? It's craptacular. No one that has been playing for awhile and tries at this game would use Mark X over Mark XI. And everyone can easily get Mk XI.

    I got a Mk X myself and immediatly sold it. It was worthless, and not even worth giving to a fleet member because I told them they'd get a Mk XI soon enough.
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  • sollvaxsollvax Member Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    Mk Xii gear has to be worked for

    Admirals start with mk X
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  • roacquisitionroacquisition Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    It would be nice is you post correct information before whining about other people whining.

    It would be nice if you would read all postings, learn about tiers and do a reality check before posting anything. *giggles* *amused* *LMAO*

    And no, I won't explain it again.
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  • mightionnymightionny Member Posts: 128 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    I got purple MK XI plasma cannons from my box, but yeah... even in VA B'tran cluster missions, getting MK X stuff doesn't make any sense.

    I'd also like it if Aegis scaled to MK XI levels at least, but I'm not holding my breath. :D
  • roacquisitionroacquisition Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    Incorrect. Only MK-infinity symbol stuff scales to your level.

    Oh, and just forgot, how comes e.g. the Quad Cannons only level up to MX X? :wink:
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  • ebonbeardebonbeard Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    Just to throw my two-cents into the discussion I got a Disruptor Full Auto Rifle Mk XI [CritD] [Dmg] [DoT3].
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