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The enemy ships I've put on my maps do not seem to be moving any more. They all have wander set to True and were working fine before the last patch (Dec 22) that fixed the ground character idle animations.
But now the ships I've placed on space maps don't wander. I haven't got any ground NPCs set to wander so I don't know if that's broken too.
But now the ships I've placed on space maps don't wander. I haven't got any ground NPCs set to wander so I don't know if that's broken too.
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After publishing. I had to manually republish my mission to see the fixes for the chat animations. Those are now working, but the ships no longer wander any more.
So both of my live published missions do not have working wandering ships, whereas they worked fine before that patch that broke ship costumes and fixed the animations. Republishing has no effect.
It's working fine for me, but I am testing on a slightly newer build than y'all are testing on.
Both of the ones in my signature. They used to have moving ships but they don't move any more. I have seen other people posting that brand new missions they make seem to have wander working, but I have no intention of scrapping my existing stuff and re-making it so that it has working stuff.
I'm just hoping that it all works on a newer build. But I've gone into tribble on the current build, played through both of my missions and they both have static NPC ship groups, even though they have wander enabled and have been republished multiple times since the last patch.
Regards,
Rachel
Is this something I'm doing wrong, that I can fix or is it something wrong with the Foundry that I cannot?
Many thanks in advance,
EB
What's the name of your mission?
Thanks!
The ships moved! Slightly. They seemed to move for 1 second and stop and then not move again for ages. So it might just be a question of finding the right settings? Either that, or the default settings changed from the Dec 22 patch and are set too low because the ships just appear to be static when you just leave it at the default settings. :eek:
So I guess wander mode works (sort of), but maybe raise the default settings? I hope other people who have said they have a problem with this will try changing the settings to see if it starts working?
EDIT: I've tried a variety of settings including medium on every setting, maximum on every setting and I can't get any consistent ship movement results
Are there any recommended settings somewhere? Or is this thing actually broken and NPCs aren't responding to the settings given?
Wander works just fine for me, though it does seem to require higher input numbers now.
The simplest way to verify this for yourself is to set the ships in a really obvious idle animation, like scan.
IIt actually feels to me like default space movement speed dropped a little, which I'm investigating.
FYI, here are the wander settings I used to see rather noticeable wandering:
Speed: 30
Duration: 20
Weight: 11
Distance: 64
Wander Idle: 5
Path Nodes: 5
Idle Animation: Scan - Space
is this for space or ground?
Sorry I didn't specify, but I'm discussing space.
EDIT:
Also, I've just sent off the issue with wander not working on ground maps. That's something else going on, (probably) unrelated to the issues space.
I used the settings the dev posted above
My "Save the Ube People" mission has the same issue.
Thanks,
Yes, that is exactly the problem.
I just checked, and for me it's not working.
No, they aren't.
Ok, I will check the published missions and see what happens. Thanks,
The ships move around in space but it's barely noticeable. I use the settings the dev posted perviously.
I have already withdrawn and republished.
Any other suggestions?
Space should work in preview and publish, though. I've found that the real problem is that when ships are at idle, they move, but very slowly and mostly in-place. This makes it seem like your wander stuff isn't working. Set idle weight to 1 and wander weight to something really high and see what happens. And set idle duration low and wander duration high.
Play with it and see if you can make stuff work.
I did try that, including the settings you mentioned are all what the ships in The Syndicate Extraction are using I think. But they are all static. I set also made a test missions where the wander weight and durations high and idles to their minimums (I don't think I could set them to nothing). Could not get them to do more than wiggle in place.
Could this be because the mission has been published before and has pathing stuff processed already? I seem to recall reading a post dstahl made about how publishing worked and how the AI pathing gets added to with each publish. I dunno. That's the only thing I can think of to explain why some old missions don't work and some new ones do.
No. Really. They aren't.
I have withdrawn the mission several times and republished. I have destroyed the ground mobs, remade them, and then republished. I have not been able to get ground groups to do anything but stand stock still and wait to be shot.
I can't get ground wander to work no matter what I do.
I also just posted a thread asking Cryptic to not put more UGC on holodeck until they fix pathing in maps and mob wandering. If they put stuff on live like it is, all they will accomplish is to sour the players on UGC since they won't know the pathing problems and stationary mobs are not the authors fault.
After hyping UGC so much, to launch it like it is will just sour potential players and make them think UGC authors turn out TRIBBLE missions.
I did as you suggest, the Borg Spheres move around but not much more than their own radius.