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I would put this in sugestions but I don't see a place for them in the forums like Champions Online has.

There is just too much coming out that is only put on the c-store. If I use my points on this game I won't have enough for all the stuff I want in Champions Online. I play both games and am a Lifetime member to both as well. I am starting to think I have spent too much money on these two games already when every little costume costs money to get in this game. Can we please get a way to earn costumes through gameplay other then wasting money on TRIBBLE costumes and ships? I find that both of these games are fun but I play Champions more because I have more friends there. I paid way too much money for this game to have such TRIBBLE customization for my costumes. I understand we can't have as great of customization as Champions has for costumes because of the genre but can we please get something more than the bare minimum?
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  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    I've been asking that most of the items in the C-Store be in-game unlockables for months. If they haven't done it by now, chances are good that only the refit ships are ever going to be this way. Still, if they're listening it would be a great gesture to see this happen sometime down the road.

    And the prices are actually cheap compared to some games' MT stores. Look at how much Blizzard is selling in-game pets and mounts for and then compare it to anything here. Cryptic sells cheap by comparison.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    Expensive or Expansive?

    Expensive it is not.

    Expansive maybe. But there really isn't anything in the C-Store you have to have.




    Also for CO... As a LT you will next year get a 400 CO-points stipend each month.

    And what is the bare minimum anyways?
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    Yes it is expensive.

    I wanted to buy the NX class, Ferengi, and Mirror Universe (Enterprise) uniforms.

    That came out to 1120 C-Store points I believe. But the minimum amount of points that I had to purchase to buy them was 1500 which costs $18.75. It ended up costing me more than a month's subscription to purchase three items that basically serve as little more than cosmetic changes.

    If I could do it all over, I wouldn't do it again. In the end, it was just a waste of money and not worth the cost. I believe that Cryptic originally stated that all C-store items would be accessible in game, but that's not true. I don't believe the three items I purchased are available outside of the C-store.

    What I think would be a better solution would be to reward players with X number of Cryptic points at the end of every month. Maybe 20 or so. Such that if a player wants a ferengi, they can shell out
    $6.25 to buy 500 points to spend on the 80 point Ferengi character and have it accessible immediately. Or they can keep their subscription active for four months and accumulate the 80 points that way.

    Note: I am still in my first month of subscription, so if Cryptic has any such system already in effect, I am not aware of it.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    Yeah, it's way too expensive for how little you actually get out of it. I bought the Dreadnaut for $25.... then they nerfed it.... plus there is no customization from the regular galaxy. The super Phaser lance isn't super any more. the costume packs aren't even packs any more.

    Yeah, lack of content for how much money they'er asking in my opinion.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    What I think would be a better solution would be to reward players with X number of Cryptic points at the end of every month. Maybe 20 or so.

    Yes this would be good. it would award people staying with the game. Maybe give LT subscribers 30 a month for being LTs.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    Yeah, it's way too expensive for how little you actually get out of it. I bought the Dreadnaut for $25.... then they nerfed it.... plus there is no customization from the regular galaxy. The super Phaser lance isn't super any more. the costume packs aren't even packs any more.

    Yeah, lack of content for how much money they'er asking in my opinion.

    Yes, the dreadnought was definitely overpriced for what it was. Mine just sits at space-dock gathering dust.
    But buying C-store stuff is not mandatory, so if you don't like the price, don't buy it.
    I don't think the D.Troi outfit is worth 240 so I don't get it. Simple.
    Or wait for one of the many "20% off holiday sale" to save some cash.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    Yes it is expensive.

    I wanted to buy the NX class, Ferengi, and Mirror Universe (Enterprise) uniforms.

    That came out to 1120 C-Store points I believe. But the minimum amount of points that I had to purchase to buy them was 1500 which costs $18.75. It ended up costing me more than a month's subscription to purchase three items that basically serve as little more than cosmetic changes.

    You want expensive for more-or-less useless TRIBBLE? Blizzard's selling vanity pets for $10.00 a pop and sparkle horses for around $20.00 (I can't remember the actual price since I never got it). Based on your analogy, that's almost the cost of a single month of game time for ONE item.
    If I could do it all over, I wouldn't do it again. In the end, it was just a waste of money and not worth the cost. I believe that Cryptic originally stated that all C-store items would be accessible in game, but that's not true. I don't believe the three items I purchased are available outside of the C-store.

    Easy solution there. Don't buy CP. Or wait for the next sale. As has been pointed out so many thousand times in the past how-many-months, there's absolutely nothing up there that is a "must have". With the exception of the Vor'cha alternate skin, most of the stuff that I bought were from the "free" points they handed out. And I don't plan on buying any more points unless there's something that I just got to have.
    What I think would be a better solution would be to reward players with X number of Cryptic points at the end of every month. Maybe 20 or so. Such that if a player wants a ferengi, they can shell out
    $6.25 to buy 500 points to spend on the 80 point Ferengi character and have it accessible immediately. Or they can keep their subscription active for four months and accumulate the 80 points that way.

    That would be something that I could get behind.

    Alternatively, make everything on the C-Store unlockable in the game and most of my own complaints about it would vanish. If you want it now without the hassle of earning it and are willing to give Cryptic money, all the more power to you. However, I would love to earn my shinies without having to pay an extra slip of latinum.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    You want expensive for more-or-less useless TRIBBLE? Blizzard's selling vanity pets for $10.00 a pop and sparkle horses for around $20.00 (I can't remember the actual price since I never got it). Based on your analogy, that's almost the cost of a single month of game time for ONE item.
    WoW's Celestial Steed is $25.00. The specialty Steeds in LotRO run around $23.50. :)
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    Let me clarify. I don't - and should not - blame Cryptic for my three purchases. When I bought them, I did so willingly, and I do enjoy having them. But in hind sight, that enjoyment wasn't worth paying an amount worth more than a month's subscription.

    No, I didn't have to buy them. Yes, I do enjoy them. But yes, I also think they are overpriced for what they are.

    Still, I think a system in which people with an active subscription are awarded a modest sum of Cryptic Points would be nice. It would make it so that the players can gain access to anything in the C-store without paying any additional money beyond their subscription, but they would have to accumulate the points.

    And then as someone else suggested, perhaps the awarded points would increase per month for longer term subscription plans, so that Lifetime subscribers get the most, and one month subscribers get the least.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    Since it's pretty much cosmetic you don't have to buy any of it. The current system is fine.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    Agreed the system is fine how it is. I'm not rich by no means and I'm trying to make it month to month money wise. I saved up for a LTS and I think it was a good idea. It gave Cryptic some money that they could use to make more content earlier in the release then if they had to wait for monthly subs to come in. Content = Man Hours = Money, so extra content is like overtime, the devs have to get paid for the extra races and ships they make for us, on top of the main content they're already getting paid for. If the store wasnt layed out how it is with prices and such, we wouldnt be getting new toys to play with.

    You can say that you're owed these items but you're not. You are owed what you pay for and you pay for the main content. If you want toys to play with, you have to pay for them. You pay a ticket for a plane ride. You buy coache class ususally right? it cost so much money. You get to your destination thats the point of taking the plane in the first place. If you want leather seats and a HD tv built into your chair then you pay more. People accept this, the airline has to pay for the leather seats and the TV's arent cheap. They also have to pay the flight atendants the money for comming to your beck-and-call if you ride 1st class. We accept this even though we envy thoes that get to have it. The game is the same way. If you can afford the C-store then you get the extra bells and whistles. Just like the airlines these days, Cryptic needs money to survive, and the airlines arent looking so good are they? The C-Store is a place for them to make extra money to put into more C-Items that we want. The prices may be over priced... and they may not. If its too rich for your blood then dont buy it. If it's worth it to you to get that extra bit of enjoyment, then by all means help yourselves. No ones is forcing you to pay for these items like you do the monthly sub. The idea of accummulating C-Points makes it pointless to even have the C-Store cost real money.

    The only way I know of for getting free C-Points is by recruiting people to play the game. I've gotten the photonic tribble and bridge officer, 3 player titles, and the galaxy-x, over a month before it was released on the C. I didnt pay a cent for any of it. Oh and I got 400 C Points per person I recruited... I've recruited 8 people so far, most of them being trial players I've met starting a new toon, I explain the game to them while in the tutiroal area and convinced them to join. They've given me their emails and I sent them the inventation and they subbed. I got rewarded. You dont have to have friends or family orbiting you in order to recruit someone.

    I think the items are priced correctly. I heard that some players pay an upwards of $400 to get the Galaxy-X when it was said it would "never goto the C-Store." They had to buy accounts, games, and subs and all the other stuff that comes with it. Then it hits the C and boy are people mad! Cryptic made it 2k C-Points to get but thats a fraction of what some people spent to get it. If you ask me, the Galaxy-X ought to be worth $50+ USD cause of the work some of us had to put into convinceing people and waiting, and thoes that actually spent real money for it. Then you wouldnt see 100 of them flying around and it would still be somewhat unique. Infact it shouldnt have gone to the C at all TBH. Anyways, I hope you see my logic in all of this. Also remember, the more money you give to Cryptic, the more extra content we can get. its a trade off.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    I do agree some items are priced too highly for what they are worth. As a result, I never buy ship costumes, for instance. I have so far purchased all the uniforms and clothing, but some of those cost more than they are really probably worth. I wasn't forced, it was my choice. No one disputes that. They can charge whatever they want and people are willing to pay. I do wish some of the items were less costly or more were offered in bundles like the Enterprise bundle at a 20% discount.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    Jas- wrote:
    I do agree some items are priced too highly for what they are worth. As a result, I never buy ship costumes, for instance. I have so far purchased all the uniforms and clothing, but some of those cost more than they are really probably worth. I wasn't forced, it was my choice. No one disputes that. They can charge whatever they want and people are willing to pay. I do wish some of the items were less costly or more were offered in bundles like the Enterprise bundle at a 20% discount.

    Same here, i have pretty much all ot the costumes/uniforms, i have the ships costumes, i hvae a lot of stuff which was in hindsight wasn't really worth the money. Like the Dreadnaught. The ship was $25 for a ship that was supposed to be pretty bad TRIBBLE, but after all the nerfing isn't any better then the way less expensive stuff. the weapons pack and a few of the single character uniforms (troi and 7 of 9) were way too expensive for what little you got.

    Yes, i wasn't FORCED to buy any of this stuff, but at teh same time i'm COMPELLED to because i'm a huge Trek fan and Cryptic knows this and there for EXPLOIT it. So much so that every time a new item comes out my wallet gets an orange targeting reticle around it.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    This thread may get locked for age... but

    they didn't exploit you any more than Kellogs do when they sell you cereal.. just because you like cereal doesn't mean they exploit you by bringing out a great new brand with sugar and chocolate and everything you like and slap a sticker on it costing 10 euro... ^^

    Looking back, I think I bought some items I didn't really need, and don't use - but like having the option to use. Strange.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    In retrospect i Don't think that Buying Points in general is too expensive, but i think that it's the C-store items them selves that are too expensive. I have no problem with buying the points but it's when i go to spend them that i get frustrated with not getting my money's worth. For example the Dreadnaught. I love it. i own it. i like cruising in it. But after all of the nerfing they did, especially to the Phaser lance i just don't think it was worth the points. Same with Costume packs. They all seem evenly priced but at the same time most just have a Jacket or boots(section 31) while others (formal evening wear) have enough options to make it worth while.
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