So, I was again surprised when I reached the level cap and I ran with childlike abandon to get my new uniform. With my Fed it was awesome. I got that longer coat and it looks great. So naturally I expected the Klingon VA equivalent had a sweet uniform or customization. Shocker...not a single thing...nada. Not even a new Lt Gen sash option.
So, sorry if this has been asked, but I havnt seen it. Is it possible to get a uniform option for Klingons equal to the Federation VA jacket?
Equal? That's a good one.
Be careful because someone who thinks the Federation is the cneter of the universe
will se this and tell you the Klingon side is not entitled to use the word "equal" and is just
whining.:)
Seriously: I think it's on someone's to-do list somewhere.
Welcome to the KDF, where you're lucky if you get Starfleet's table scraps.
Oooo...angry Klinks...haven't seen them since um...nvm...yesterday isn't a long time..
You know, it feels like I am a ST:VI Klink...angry at the feds, unhappy with their lot, and seething...lol.
Oooo...angry Klinks...haven't seen them since um...nvm...yesterday isn't a long time..
You know, it feels like I am a ST:VI Klink...angry at the feds, unhappy with their lot, and seething...lol.
I wasnt going for yet another Kling rage post. I was serious in hoping the Devs would read and reply to this.
I'm surprised you were being serious, this has been brought up many times, threads have been locked, and so on just on this topic and Cryptic still has not said anything as to why we didn't get a uniform upgrade. The harsh reality is that this game caters to a single faction, and those hoping for Romulans and Cardascians should expect the same treatment if not worse them the Klingons have been receiving.
I wasnt going for yet another Kling rage post. I was serious in hoping the Devs would read and reply to this.
I don't think anyone considered it a ragepost.
It's more like a running gag (that stopped being funny quite a while ago) that Klingons are missing a
few things.
Particularly the term "equality" that you used in your original post is a term of great importance even though it will never be equality in quantity particularly in terms of how many ships wer get to fly.
In a recent thread called "Equality for Klingons" it boiled down to "equality in consideration" which is something we felt painfully missing in cases like the 200 day veteran reward or, long before that, the Klingon referral reward ship.
Or in this particular case.
Its sad that they let things get so out of balance. I knew it was bad about the 200 day vet reward,,,had no idea about the VA equiv uniform. Its as if they thought no one would want to play Klingon..which was a massive error.
Its sad that they let things get so out of balance. I knew it was bad about the 200 day vet reward,,,had no idea about the VA equiv uniform. Its as if they thought no one would want to play Klingon..which was a massive error.
Well, they saw when the game went live how people wanted to play the faction, yet they did nothing. They saw the population rise, yet they did nothing. They finally decided to take us seriously, yet have done nothing. They promised to help flesh out the faction for 2.0, and they did little to nothing (sure we have a coupel of PVE missions, and a frakkin lionfish but still). It isn't until now that they are adding things into the game, but very frakkin' slowly. 1 KDF item per every 4-5 Fed items..I say it's a dang shame...well...a sham. Let the feds cool their heels some and work SOLELY on us...Oh wait, I forgot, 2.0 was the "Klingon" update...*sigh* I know this is a bit of a tirade...but we have every right to gripe...especially since we have asked specific questions and have gotten not so specific answers.....
Well, ill wait to see what they offer at season 3. If we get bent over by being forced to buy more of what should be free then the true path well be revealed. Dstahl has tried...but stuff like this and the 200 day vet uniform should have never been overlooked. They should have been done in tandem with the fed ones...because these are supposed to be account specific items...not faction specific. So I thhnk they get a new chace but they need to stop jacking around and pay attention. i fthey feel this way about the only other faction...it doesnt bode well for a third.
Long answer: No. Klingons are monster play. The focus of the development team is now, and has been since late in beta, the Federation. We get scraps. I strongly suspect that anything we get beyond this point will be little and a long time coming.
Long answer: No. Klingons are monster play. The focus of the development team is now, and has been since late in beta, the Federation. We get scraps. I strongly suspect that anything we get beyond this point will be little and a long time coming.
Nope. Focus on development now seems to be faction-agnostic or relatively balanced.
Fed side:
Andorian Vessel
Vulcan Vessel
NX-01 ship
Enterprise Mirror Uniforms
Seven of Nine costume (I find it hard to value this as high as a new ship costume, but it might actually be similar "expensive")
The problem is that the KDF "needs more" to get en par with the Federation. But if there isn't new Federation content, a lot of Fed players will get ****ed eventually, too. Just because one side has less doesn't mean that both sides don't need continual updates to keep the players happy.
LOL never mind the Lt Gen uniform. Still waiting for Cryptic to fixed the bugged 2nd Klink Uniform slot, so on that basis good luck to seeing the Lt Gen Uniform anytime this year.
Nope. Focus on development now seems to be faction-agnostic or relatively balanced.
Well, when they already start giving Non-Starfleet ships to Starfleet, it doesn't seem balanced. More like "oh damn what are we going to give them now, they already have everything".
In my opinion they could well "balance" new Klingon stuff with things that can be used by both factions (like sets of "costume parts" that could be combined with both Starfleet and KDF clothes), if it is really necessary to appease Fed-only players like that or milk the cash cow.
Well, when they already start giving Non-Starfleet ships to Starfleet, it doesn't seem balanced. More like "oh damn what are we going to give them now, they already have everything".
In my opinion they could well "balance" new Klingon stuff with things that can be used by both factions (like sets of "costume parts" that could be combined with both Starfleet and KDF clothes), if it is really necessary to appease Fed-only players like that or milk the cash cow.
The problem is that the KDF "needs more" to get en par with the Federation. But if there isn't new Federation content, a lot of Fed players will get ****ed eventually, too. Just because one side has less doesn't mean that both sides don't need continual updates to keep the players happy.
I think that Cryptic shouldn't COMPLETELY stop giving Federation players stuff, but at a much slower pace. They need to focus on getting the KDF up to snuff, and they can't do that if the Fed-bears keep getting all of the attention. I say let the "favored child" feel what it's like to get little for a while and maybe they'll shut up about our "whining".
Faction agnostic stuff is a good idea, but it gives BOTH factions stuff to do. The gap will continuously widen if they keep going this route. Don't stop giving it as a lot of it is good for both to use, but Klingon-side needs more faction-specific stuff to close the gap somewhat.
I think that Cryptic shouldn't COMPLETELY stop giving Federation players stuff, but at a much slower pace. They need to focus on getting the KDF up to snuff, and they can't do that if the Fed-bears keep getting all of the attention. I say let the "favored child" feel what it's like to get little for a while and maybe they'll shut up about our "whining".
Ummm..
I feel all of your pain, but u really cant say u didnt expect this making a kling.
I have 2 klings, and i fully expected my second LG1 to be just the same as the first LG1, with limited content b4 its creation.
Infact the only reason i made a kling was to fly the cool cloaking real battleships, with dual cannons and the all mighty carrier.
If you made a kling for pure story missions, and content, then i think you didnt do enough reading.
But i agree with all of you, we are seriously over looked.
But when we made the characters, you had to know what you were stepping into.
You make a feddie for eye candy, and to go QQ in ESD.
You make a kling to make the feddies go QQ in PVP and Kar'rot.
If you made a kling for pure story missions, and content, then i think you didnt do enough reading.
You do have some valid points...except for this one. Quite a few of us were led to believe that we WOULD have a lot of PvE options because it was promised to be given at launch. While I'm glad that we're getting more, it's extremely slow and painful. I came into the game expecting a fully fleshed out faction, not a glorified monster-play. The eight missions that we were given, as well as the new weeklies, are a start, but still not enough to fill in the level gaps.
EDIT: Don't get me wrong. The KDF-only and weekly missions are among the best-written so far. We just need some more to do, and with Gozer opening up more sectors to us we'll get some of what we've been asking for.
For the sake of those wishing to play Romulans and Cardascians, I can only hope it will never happen. Nobody should have to go through the same TRIBBLE Klingon players had to put up with, and we all know they will because the Federation will always be catered too.
For the sake of those wishing to play Romulans and Cardascians, I can only hope it will never happen. Nobody should have to go through the same TRIBBLE Klingon players had to put up with, and we all know they will because the Federation will always be catered too.
And from day one of the last minute announcement of "PvP focused" I argued that the real danger was not just to the Klingon faction, but to any future faction.
You do have some valid points...except for this one. Quite a few of us were led to believe that we WOULD have a lot of PvE options because it was promised to be given at launch. While I'm glad that we're getting more, it's extremely slow and painful. I came into the game expecting a fully fleshed out faction, not a glorified monster-play. The eight missions that we were given, as well as the new weeklies, are a start, but still not enough to fill in the level gaps.
EDIT: Don't get me wrong. The KDF-only and weekly missions are among the best-written so far. We just need some more to do, and with Gozer opening up more sectors to us we'll get some of what we've been asking for.
Yes, but I am willing to bet anything that that will take a very long time to do as well....I seem to think that they keep putting us on the back burner just to make sure the feds are catered to, and then they either blame CBS for liscensing, or say that the fed material was in development first...while technically the latter is correct...it sure is an abused excuse...yes, an EXCUSE....
I just wanted to pop in and say that my lead KDF only just made BG4 yesterday, and I'm disappointed, though not suprised, that there is no Lt. General Jacket.
For what it's worth (not much, but there it is), add a /Signed +1 to the asking/voting for adding that and more to the KDF side.
I agree, I just wish there were more clothing options on the klingon side in general, being restricted to klingon clothing/armor in my alien toon just doesn't seem right which is probably the reason my orion toon pretty much only uses orion specific clothing (except the boots, the boots are ridiculous)
Well, when they already start giving Non-Starfleet ships to Starfleet, it doesn't seem balanced. More like "oh damn what are we going to give them now, they already have everything".
The Klingons get non-Klingon ships, too. Sure,in the STO timeline, Klingons have conqured or allied with afew new races, but Gorn or Orion vessels are stil lnot Klingon and when I thought of playing Klingongs, I didn't think of Orions or Gorns. And it seems in the STO timeline, Starfleet uses Vulcan and Andorian ship designs.
In my opinion they could well "balance" new Klingon stuff with things that can be used by both factions (like sets of "costume parts" that could be combined with both Starfleet and KDF clothes), if it is really necessary to appease Fed-only players like that or milk the cash cow.
Their costume setup is weird and sucks TRIBBLE. Player characters, BOs, NPCs and different factions use different costumes that seem incompatible to each other. To some extent I understand it (female and male differences, races with unusual physiology), but overall I think they could have done that better.
But then, they couldhave done a lot of things better.
The Klingons get non-Klingon ships, too. Sure,in the STO timeline, Klingons have conqured or allied with afew new races, but Gorn or Orion vessels are stil lnot Klingon and when I thought of playing Klingongs, I didn't think of Orions or Gorns.
If the Klingon side would only consist of Klingons, I'd agree - but unlike Starfleet it is more an alliance than a single faction, so species-specific ships are not only okay, they are long overdue.
Actually, non-Klingon ships would have been a nice way to bring K-side ships to a number equaling that of the Federation, so I hope that these three ships won't be the last. Ideally, a Gorn/Nausicaan/Orion player should be able to fly a Gorn/Nausicaan/Orion ship right from the start.
And it seems in the STO timeline, Starfleet uses Vulcan and Andorian ship designs.
Yes. Which does not make any sense. But so do the NX, the TOS-Connie and the Galaxy-X. I'll just tick that off as vanity ships / fun items / easter eggs and hope that the people I roleplay with will use these options responsibly. :rolleyes:
Their costume setup is weird and sucks TRIBBLE. Player characters, BOs, NPCs and different factions use different costumes that seem incompatible to each other. To some extent I understand it (female and male differences, races with unusual physiology), but overall I think they could have done that better.
Sad, but true. I can understand and even support a certain amount of limitation (i.e. "overcustomization"; I really don't want to see Qo'noS turn into the circus that ESD is right now), yet there are a lot of combinations that should be possible, but aren't. Just yesterday I've seen some very cool pants (some sort of combat pants with large pockets - similar to what the TNG-era Academy cadets were wearing) on a Starfleet NPC I'd love to have for my Fed uniform, but they simply aren't there.
The Klingons get non-Klingon ships, too. Sure,in the STO timeline, Klingons have conqured or allied with afew new races, but Gorn or Orion vessels are stil lnot Klingon and when I thought of playing Klingongs, I didn't think of Orions or Gorns. And it seems in the STO timeline, Starfleet uses Vulcan and Andorian ship designs.
I think Valias point was highlighted by the "already". The KDF is already much shorter on ship options than the Federation, hence the reason they started giving us Gorn, Orion and Nausicaan ships. Yet the Federation is already getting the same treatment when they have more ships than most players know what to do with.
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Be careful because someone who thinks the Federation is the cneter of the universe
will se this and tell you the Klingon side is not entitled to use the word "equal" and is just
whining.:)
Seriously: I think it's on someone's to-do list somewhere.
This aint Dune....
Oooo...angry Klinks...haven't seen them since um...nvm...yesterday isn't a long time..
You know, it feels like I am a ST:VI Klink...angry at the feds, unhappy with their lot, and seething...lol.
The gang is all here
Torches -- Check
Straw Dummy -- Check
It's a nice night for a fire.
You forgot tar and feathers...I'm a fan of the old-school instruments...lol.
I'm surprised you were being serious, this has been brought up many times, threads have been locked, and so on just on this topic and Cryptic still has not said anything as to why we didn't get a uniform upgrade. The harsh reality is that this game caters to a single faction, and those hoping for Romulans and Cardascians should expect the same treatment if not worse them the Klingons have been receiving.
I don't think anyone considered it a ragepost.
It's more like a running gag (that stopped being funny quite a while ago) that Klingons are missing a
few things.
Particularly the term "equality" that you used in your original post is a term of great importance even though it will never be equality in quantity particularly in terms of how many ships wer get to fly.
In a recent thread called "Equality for Klingons" it boiled down to "equality in consideration" which is something we felt painfully missing in cases like the 200 day veteran reward or, long before that, the Klingon referral reward ship.
Or in this particular case.
Well, they saw when the game went live how people wanted to play the faction, yet they did nothing. They saw the population rise, yet they did nothing. They finally decided to take us seriously, yet have done nothing. They promised to help flesh out the faction for 2.0, and they did little to nothing (sure we have a coupel of PVE missions, and a frakkin lionfish but still). It isn't until now that they are adding things into the game, but very frakkin' slowly. 1 KDF item per every 4-5 Fed items..I say it's a dang shame...well...a sham. Let the feds cool their heels some and work SOLELY on us...Oh wait, I forgot, 2.0 was the "Klingon" update...*sigh* I know this is a bit of a tirade...but we have every right to gripe...especially since we have asked specific questions and have gotten not so specific answers.....
Long answer: No. Klingons are monster play. The focus of the development team is now, and has been since late in beta, the Federation. We get scraps. I strongly suspect that anything we get beyond this point will be little and a long time coming.
KDF Side:
Vor'Cha Refit
Vor'Cha Costume
Orion Vessel
Gorn Vessel
Naucassian Vessel
B'rel Refit
Fed side:
Andorian Vessel
Vulcan Vessel
NX-01 ship
Enterprise Mirror Uniforms
Seven of Nine costume (I find it hard to value this as high as a new ship costume, but it might actually be similar "expensive")
The problem is that the KDF "needs more" to get en par with the Federation. But if there isn't new Federation content, a lot of Fed players will get ****ed eventually, too. Just because one side has less doesn't mean that both sides don't need continual updates to keep the players happy.
In my opinion they could well "balance" new Klingon stuff with things that can be used by both factions (like sets of "costume parts" that could be combined with both Starfleet and KDF clothes), if it is really necessary to appease Fed-only players like that or milk the cash cow.
couldnt have said it any better myself
I think that Cryptic shouldn't COMPLETELY stop giving Federation players stuff, but at a much slower pace. They need to focus on getting the KDF up to snuff, and they can't do that if the Fed-bears keep getting all of the attention. I say let the "favored child" feel what it's like to get little for a while and maybe they'll shut up about our "whining".
Faction agnostic stuff is a good idea, but it gives BOTH factions stuff to do. The gap will continuously widen if they keep going this route. Don't stop giving it as a lot of it is good for both to use, but Klingon-side needs more faction-specific stuff to close the gap somewhat.
Ummm..
I feel all of your pain, but u really cant say u didnt expect this making a kling.
I have 2 klings, and i fully expected my second LG1 to be just the same as the first LG1, with limited content b4 its creation.
Infact the only reason i made a kling was to fly the cool cloaking real battleships, with dual cannons and the all mighty carrier.
If you made a kling for pure story missions, and content, then i think you didnt do enough reading.
But i agree with all of you, we are seriously over looked.
But when we made the characters, you had to know what you were stepping into.
You make a feddie for eye candy, and to go QQ in ESD.
You make a kling to make the feddies go QQ in PVP and Kar'rot.
You do have some valid points...except for this one. Quite a few of us were led to believe that we WOULD have a lot of PvE options because it was promised to be given at launch. While I'm glad that we're getting more, it's extremely slow and painful. I came into the game expecting a fully fleshed out faction, not a glorified monster-play. The eight missions that we were given, as well as the new weeklies, are a start, but still not enough to fill in the level gaps.
EDIT: Don't get me wrong. The KDF-only and weekly missions are among the best-written so far. We just need some more to do, and with Gozer opening up more sectors to us we'll get some of what we've been asking for.
And from day one of the last minute announcement of "PvP focused" I argued that the real danger was not just to the Klingon faction, but to any future faction.
Yes, but I am willing to bet anything that that will take a very long time to do as well....I seem to think that they keep putting us on the back burner just to make sure the feds are catered to, and then they either blame CBS for liscensing, or say that the fed material was in development first...while technically the latter is correct...it sure is an abused excuse...yes, an EXCUSE....
For what it's worth (not much, but there it is), add a /Signed +1 to the asking/voting for adding that and more to the KDF side.
Their costume setup is weird and sucks TRIBBLE. Player characters, BOs, NPCs and different factions use different costumes that seem incompatible to each other. To some extent I understand it (female and male differences, races with unusual physiology), but overall I think they could have done that better.
But then, they couldhave done a lot of things better.
Actually, non-Klingon ships would have been a nice way to bring K-side ships to a number equaling that of the Federation, so I hope that these three ships won't be the last. Ideally, a Gorn/Nausicaan/Orion player should be able to fly a Gorn/Nausicaan/Orion ship right from the start.
Yes. Which does not make any sense. But so do the NX, the TOS-Connie and the Galaxy-X. I'll just tick that off as vanity ships / fun items / easter eggs and hope that the people I roleplay with will use these options responsibly. :rolleyes:
Sad, but true. I can understand and even support a certain amount of limitation (i.e. "overcustomization"; I really don't want to see Qo'noS turn into the circus that ESD is right now), yet there are a lot of combinations that should be possible, but aren't. Just yesterday I've seen some very cool pants (some sort of combat pants with large pockets - similar to what the TNG-era Academy cadets were wearing) on a Starfleet NPC I'd love to have for my Fed uniform, but they simply aren't there.
I think Valias point was highlighted by the "already". The KDF is already much shorter on ship options than the Federation, hence the reason they started giving us Gorn, Orion and Nausicaan ships. Yet the Federation is already getting the same treatment when they have more ships than most players know what to do with.