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SystemSystem Member, NoReporting Posts: 178,019 Arc User
edited December 2014 in Klingon Discussion
I'm putting together a list of things that we would like to see in game for the Klingons, while I will list things like content, crafting and the like, most of those things should be discussed in greater depth in threads dedicated to them, I will link to those discussions. What I'd like to have is place for the Devs to go and see what we would like to have added to our faction, be it content, uniforms, ships, etc... If you have suggestions please try to provide links to relevant information.

Content:
House system (relevant links: House System Idea and Warfront Endgame Proposal)

Crafting system (relevant links: Klingon Alternatives to Crafting)

Tricorders of our own (option 1, option 2)

Ability to make TOS Klingons without having to make them "unknown aliens"

More Females for the different species (Nausicaan, Gorn, Lethian)

Some form of Tribble bonuses relating to Targs.

Ships: (see also this thread Wishlist Thread: Ships Edition)
D5 Class
D7 Class
22nd Century BoP
K'Vort Class
Laneth's Starship
Toron-class Shuttlepod
Possible Negh'Var refits Variations, voDIeH and Endgame.
Nausicaan Raider
Orion Interceptor
Possible Vor'Cha refit/variation: Qang Class
Harrad-Sar's Barge

NPC Ships as player ships:
Gorn Draguas Cruiser (pic 2)
Gorn Vishop Frigate (pic 2)
Gorn Zilant Battleship (pic 2)
Orion Corvette
Orion Brigand Cruiser
Orion Marauder (pic 2, Pic 3, Pic 4)
Syphon Frigate
Nausicaan Destroyer Escort (pic 2)
Talon Battleship (pic 2, pic 3)


Costume pieces seen on NPC's:
Casual Klingon costume
Mak'bara outfit
Gorn tunicless option
Gorn Leather armor option
Nausicaan leg armor

Melee weapons:
D'k tahg
Knife Kirom
Kut'luch
Mek'leth
Mevak
Qis
Tajtiq
Yan
Nausicaan Sword
Gin'tak Spear

Non-NPC costume options:
Klingon Tunicless vest (pic 2)
Klingon Female long skirt and Cleavage tunic
Klingon Female cleavage option 2
B'Elanna outfit
Worf and Dax Wedding attire
Worf Insurrection outfit
Kor, Koloth and Kang outfits from DS9
Kahless outfits (option 2)
Female offduty
Holster (possible sash or belt option)
Ambassador's Coat
Female Casual option
Chang's Uniform
Darok's clothing

Klingon Vet-reward Jacket options:
Klingon long coat (with color options)
Klingon Swordmaster Vest
Korrd's jacket
Gowron/Martok Chacellor's jacket
Commander's jacket (Worf's version in The Emissary TNG)



Misc:
Michael Dorn Voice overs
Melee weapons visible not like they are now

Personal request - Canoids = Children of San-Tarah
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  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    I don't think we need to have all those melee weapons (especially not a dozen different daggers!), but the D'k tahg is certainly a must. I'd also like a Gin'tak spear. The Knife of Kirom was a unique artefact, so that should be left out for sure.

    More importantly, the melee weapons need to show on our characters. I was very disappointed that, after some early patch, drawn Bat'leths would suddenly disappear into thin air after combat! Why the change?

    The K'vort would be an excellent way to recycle the B'rel model for a T5-"Refit"-BoP.

    As for clothes, I think we need a proper vest that shows some skin - both for male as well as for female characters. See this image and this one. It's pretty close to the top options we already have, the developers just need to get rid of the arms and make room for some cleavage (yes, in the male version too).

    Also, this for female Klingons - both the breastplate as well as the skirt. Klingon female cleavage is so iconic it already has its own t-shirts, so I am at a loss as to why it isn't in STO. Especially considering the new Orion options or that the Federation now has a cleavage leather jacket in the polls.

    Oh, and I almost forgot:

    Change the current "ship is under attack" voiceover to something more Klingon. The current voice sounds like Borg. >_<
    True awesomeness would be to get Michael Dorn to speak a couple lines for STO - he did a lot of voice roles for different games recently, including Fallout, StarCraft II and Mass Effect 2. I would nerdgasm so hard if Cryptic should get him. I'm sure every Klingon player would attack every ship in range only to hear his voice. :D
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    Valias wrote:
    I don't think we need to have all those melee weapons (especially not a dozen different daggers!), but the D'k tahg is certainly a must. I'd also like a Gin'tak spear. The Knife of Kirom was a unique artefact, so that should be left out for sure.

    More importantly, the melee weapons need to show on our characters. I was very disappointed that, after some early patch, drawn Bat'leths would suddenly disappear into thin air after combat! Why the change?

    The K'vort would be an excellent way to recycle the B'rel model for a T5-"Refit"-BoP.

    As for clothes, I think we need a proper vest that shows some skin - both for male as well as for female characters. See this image and this one. It's pretty close to the top options we already have, the developers just need to get rid of the arms and make room for some cleavage (yes, in the male version too).

    Also, this for female Klingons - both the breastplate as well as the skirt. Klingon female cleavage is so iconic it already has its own t-shirts, so I am at a loss as to why it isn't in STO. Especially considering the new Orion options or that the Federation now has a cleavage leather jacket in the polls.

    Oh, and I almost forgot:

    Change the current "ship is under attack" voiceover to something more Klingon. The current voice sounds like Borg. >_<
    True awesomeness would be to get Michael Dorn to speak a couple lines for STO - he did a lot of voice roles for different games recently, including Fallout, StarCraft II and Mass Effect 2. I would nerdgasm so hard if Cryptic should get him. I'm sure every Klingon player would attack every ship in range only to hear his voice. :D

    Updated... I included all of the possible melee weapons, personally I only want to see the D'k tahg and the Mek'leth, though it would be nice to have the Nausicaan sword for Nausicaan characters too.

    In regards to showing the melee weapons on the characters, this can be done in CO in the "back" options for the costumes. Maybe this can be done for Klingons?
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    Varrangian wrote: »
    In regards to showing the melee weapons on the characters, this can be done in CO in the "back" options for the costumes. Maybe this can be done for Klingons?
    Do you mean sheathed melee weapons? This would be cool, of course - but I am more referring to a mechanic that was already in the game. You keep your ranged weapons (disruptors, phasers, ...) in your hands when you draw them. There even is a little button for this in the UI. But it doesn't work with melee weapons. It used to. I'm not sure why they changed this, but I'd really like to have this back.

    Also: :D @ video
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    Valias wrote:
    Do you mean sheathed melee weapons? This would be cool, of course - but I am more referring to a mechanic that was already in the game. You keep your ranged weapons (disruptors, phasers, ...) in your hands when you draw them. There even is a little button for this in the UI. But it doesn't work with melee weapons. It used to. I'm not sure why they changed this, but I'd really like to have this back.

    Also: :D @ video

    Ah I see what you mean, yeah I'm not sure why they took it out for melee, but sheathed melee weapons was what I meant.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    Some more stuff:

    Another image of the cleavage breastplate. More detail this time - and it looks like this is a solid plate rather than a vest. Interestingly, it can also be combined with the classical vest, as seen here.

    Also, here is an example for Klingon female Off-Duty clothing to go with the stuff suggested in the "Kor, Koloth and Kang" image. NOTE: Your link there does not work for other people!

    And something that every Klingon should have: the nigh-omnipresent Klingon holster. Seriously, everyone wears it. I'm just not sure how it could be incorporated into STO - as a sash option maybe?
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    Valias wrote:
    Some more stuff:

    Another image of the cleavage breastplate. More detail this time - and it looks like this is a solid plate rather than a vest. Interestingly, it can also be combined with the classical vest, as seen here.

    Also, here is an example for Klingon female Off-Duty clothing to go with the stuff suggested in the "Kor, Koloth and Kang" image. NOTE: Your link there does not work for other people!

    And something that every Klingon should have: the nigh-omnipresent Klingon holster. Seriously, everyone wears it. I'm just not sure how it could be incorporated into STO - as a sash option maybe?

    Updated. The holster might work on a sash or even on a belt. CO has a few belt options with holsters. The D'K tahg hanging from a belt might be nice too.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    Varrangian wrote: »
    Updated. The holster might work on a sash or even on a belt. CO has a few belt options with holsters. The D'K tahg hanging from a belt might be nice too.
    Ideally, the holster could be a sash option and the D'K'tahg a belt option, so that you can combine them. On the other hand, if you have the holster as a belt option, you can wear other sashes... :D

    Oh, and This website has pictures of two Klingon tricorders. Maybe we won't have to use these sto-..., err, I mean salvaged Federation models for eternity. The second model actually looks pretty close to what we currently have in the game; if the devs would just slap a rusty red/brown color on the Fed tricorder, it'd already look much better.

    By the way, I've re-uploaded your Kang/Kor/Koloth-pic on imageshack. Es-Astris-Scientia doesn't allow hotlinking. Here's the new url: http://img543.imageshack.us/img543/2212/korkolothkang.jpg
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    Valias wrote:
    Ideally, the holster could be a sash option and the D'K'tahg a belt option, so that you can combine them. On the other hand, if you have the holster as a belt option, you can wear other sashes... :D

    Oh, and This website has pictures of two Klingon tricorders. Maybe we won't have to use these sto-..., err, I mean salvaged Federation models for eternity. The second model actually looks pretty close to what we currently have in the game; if the devs would just slap a rusty red/brown color on the Fed tricorder, it'd already look much better.

    By the way, I've re-uploaded your Kang/Kor/Koloth-pic on imageshack. Es-Astris-Scientia doesn't allow hotlinking. Here's the new url: http://img543.imageshack.us/img543/2212/korkolothkang.jpg

    Awesome catch on the Tricorders! Updated.

    On the Holster options. CO actually has a belt with a holster on one side and a knife on the other side. Of course like most games it assumes everyone is right handed, which is a bit annoying since I shoot left.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    Valias wrote:
    Change the current "ship is under attack" voiceover to something more Klingon. The current voice sounds like Borg. >_<
    True awesomeness would be to get Michael Dorn to speak a couple lines for STO - he did a lot of voice roles for different games recently, including Fallout, StarCraft II and Mass Effect 2. I would nerdgasm so hard if Cryptic should get him. I'm sure every Klingon player would attack every ship in range only to hear his voice. :D

    I really liked the Qua'plah! before the Season two patch. But, I do agree that having Michael Dorn voice over would make many people "nerdgasim". ;P

    Perhapse a way should be put in for players to choose which of the three voices the player hears.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    Updated with some new things. I'm looking for pics of the following NPC ships

    Gorn:
    Vishop Frigate (more/better pics)
    Zilant Battleship (more/better pics)
    Balaur Dreadnought

    Nausicaan:
    Syphon Frigate
    Nausicaan Destroyer Escort
    Talon Battleship

    Orion:
    Marauder Battleship (more/better pics)
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    Updated with Tribble bonus requests and the request for more female options for species currently without females.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    Updated with Nausicaan ships, though could use better screenies if anyone has them.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    Admiral Jacket Vet reward.
    Targs/Saurian as functioning pets in combat or a Targ/Saurian handler kit.
    Klingon and subfaction based crafting.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    Roach wrote: »
    Admiral Jacket Vet reward.
    Targs/Saurian as functioning pets in combat or a Targ/Saurian handler kit.
    Klingon and subfaction based crafting.

    In regards to the Admiral/Vet Jacket reward, do you want to see on of the ones from the game specifically or do you want a brand new design?
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    Could we stick basic T5 Lieutenant General variants of the set t5 ships as well? I'm unsure as to specifics of how each would be different, but I figured a simple request wouldnt hurt :)
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    LEONHART wrote: »
    Could we stick basic T5 Lieutenant General variants of the set t5 ships as well? I'm unsure as to specifics of how each would be different, but I figured a simple request wouldnt hurt :)

    I'm not sure what you are asking, I may be reading this wrong, but do you mean can we get more more of these options for T5 ships?
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    Varrangian wrote: »
    I'm putting together a list of things that we would like to see in game for the Klingons, while I will list things like content, crafting and the like, most of those things should be discussed in greater depth in threads dedicated to them, I will link to those discussions. What I'd like to have is place for the Devs to go and see what we would like to have added to our faction, be it content, uniforms, ships, etc... If you have suggestions please try to provide links to relevant information.

    Content:
    House system (relevant links: House System Idea and Warfront Endgame Proposal)

    Crafting system (relevant links: Klingon Alternatives to Crafting)

    Tricorders of our own (option 1, option 2)

    Ability to make TOS Klingons without having to make them "unknown aliens"

    More Females for the different species (Nausicaan, Gorn, Lethian)

    Some form of Tribble bonuses relating to Targs.

    Ships: (see also this thread Wishlist Thread: Ships Edition)
    D5 Class
    D7 Class
    22nd Century BoP
    K'Vort Class
    Laneth's Starship
    Toron-class Shuttlepod
    Possible Negh'Var refits Variations, voDIeH and Endgame.
    Nausicaan Raider
    Orion Interceptor
    Possible Vor'Cha refit/variation: Qang Class
    Harrad-Sar's Barge

    NPC Ships as player ships:
    Gorn Draguas Cruiser (pic 2)
    Gorn Vishop Frigate (pic 2)
    Gorn Zilant Battleship (pic 2)
    Orion Corvette
    Orion Brigand Cruiser
    Orion Marauder (pic 2, Pic 3, Pic 4)
    Syphon Frigate
    Nausicaan Destroyer Escort (pic 2)
    Talon Battleship (pic 2, pic 3)


    Costume pieces seen on NPC's:
    Casual Klingon costume
    Klingon long coat (with color options)
    Klingon Swordmaster Vest
    Mak'bara outfit
    Gorn tunicless option
    Gorn Leather armor option
    Nausicaan leg armor

    Melee weapons:
    D'k tahg
    Knife Kirom
    Kut'luch
    Mek'leth
    Mevak
    Qis
    Tajtiq
    Yan
    Nausicaan Sword
    Gin'tak Spear

    Non-NPC costume options:
    Klingon Tunicless vest (pic 2)
    Klingon Female long skirt and Cleavage tunic
    Klingon Female cleavage option 2
    B'Elanna outfit
    Worf and Dax Wedding attire
    Worf Insurrection outfit
    Kor, Koloth and Kang outfits from DS9
    Kahless outfits (option 2)
    Female offduty
    Holster (possible sash or belt option)

    Misc:
    Michael Dorn Voice overs
    Melee weapons visible not like they are now

    Personal request - Canoids = Children of San-Tarah


    Yes yes and hell yes
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    Varrangian wrote: »
    In regards to the Admiral/Vet Jacket reward, do you want to see on of the ones from the game specifically or do you want a brand new design?

    I would like the basic design plus options for the lapels, trim and button arraingement.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    Roach wrote: »
    I would like the basic design plus options for the lapels, trim and button arraingement.

    Hmm ok I'll think about how to add that to the list, but I will add it.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    Yes excatly what I meant, sorry for the confusion. I love my Negh'var more than any ship i have, so if they have a way of making it different (hopefully better for my build) then i would like to try it :)
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    LEONHART wrote: »
    Yes excatly what I meant, sorry for the confusion. I love my Negh'var more than any ship i have, so if they have a way of making it different (hopefully better for my build) then i would like to try it :)

    Ah ok, this is something I'm asking them about in general, I've asked in the new "Ask Cryptic" thread if they are going to go back and review the BO and stats of older ships since the launching of many of the new refits have made some of them obsolete. I am concerned that this will be further exasperated by the new KDF ships coming in sometime in the next few months.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    Roach wrote: »
    Admiral Jacket Vet reward.
    Which Admiral Jacket are we talking about, precisely?

    I think the coat worn by General Korrd in ST:V would be perfect for this. I think it's the same one that was also worn by Martok and Gowron during their time as Chancellors.

    The so-called Swordsmaster vest is actually a standard Klingon officer coat that has been worn by many influential Klingon commanders in the movies as well as the series. Including this scene from TNG where it is worn by Worf in an attempt to fool a group of Klingons. Hence I think it should be called "KDF Officer Coat" or something like that in the clothing customization menu.
    Of course, it should also be a bit longer than what the Swordsmaster-NPCs wear - if that is possibly with the engine.

    Whilst browsing, I also stumbled upon this, the jacket worn by the Klingon Ambassador. I think it would actually look better than the rather "human-style" suit worn by Worf on For'cas III whilst having a somewhat similar look.

    By the way, some of the images in the list are double, like the "cleavage" pictures - they're not really different from each other, I have just linked several shots to provide better detail and different angles. Sorry for the confusion. The "B'Elanna outfit" should actually be the "option 2" for the "cleavage" breastplate, as it is basically the same thing - just with a padded undergarment.
    I think we can just call both tops "Klingon Female Breastplate" - it merely has two variants: one with cleavage (a la Duras sisters) and one without (a la B'Elanna).

    Oh, and here's another one I've found. Do you remember this warrioress? The "gift" from Q-Riker to Worf? [Video]
    Might also be an idea for off-duty clothing. :D
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    Valias wrote:
    Which Admiral Jacket are we talking about, precisely?

    I think the coat worn by General Korrd in ST:V would be perfect for this. I think it's the same one that was also worn by Martok and Gowron during their time as Chancellors.

    The so-called Swordsmaster vest is actually a standard Klingon officer coat that has been worn by many influential Klingon commanders in the movies as well as the series. Including this scene from TNG where it is worn by Worf in an attempt to fool a group of Klingons. Hence I think it should be called "KDF Officer Coat" or something like that in the clothing customization menu.
    Of course, it should also be a bit longer than what the Swordsmaster-NPCs wear - if that is possibly with the engine.

    Whilst browsing, I also stumbled upon this, the jacket worn by the Klingon Ambassador. I think it would actually look better than the rather "human-style" suit worn by Worf on For'cas III whilst having a somewhat similar look.

    By the way, some of the images in the list are double, like the "cleavage" pictures - they're not really different from each other, I have just linked several shots to provide better detail and different angles. Sorry for the confusion. The "B'Elanna outfit" should actually be the "option 2" for the "cleavage" breastplate, as it is basically the same thing - just with a padded undergarment.
    I think we can just call both tops "Klingon Female Breastplate" - it merely has two variants: one with cleavage (a la Duras sisters) and one without (a la B'Elanna).

    Oh, and here's another one I've found. Do you remember this warrioress? The "gift" from Q-Riker to Worf? [Video]
    Might also be an idea for off-duty clothing. :D

    This is a good question. I've only seen that we are getting a "vet reward" jacket, nothing about a Admiral uniform as well. Personally I'd like both.

    I love the General Korrd overcoat! That would be fantastic!
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    gorn females? lies and slander, theyre asexual lizards, they lay eggs that hatch into more gorn.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    KhansWrath wrote:
    gorn females? lies and slander, theyre asexual lizards, they lay eggs that hatch into more gorn.

    Well according to this Lizards do have sexes, though they do not need to have sexual reproduction for the existence of "sexes".

    http://www.exoticpetvet.net/reptile/rerepro.html
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    Valias wrote:
    Which Admiral Jacket are we talking about, precisely?

    I would be happy with any and all of them as options.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    Chang's Uniform from Star Trek 6 could be one of those High-Rank uniform options made available.

    http://www.trekcore.com/specials/albums/rare/article24/general_chang3.jpg

    Darok's clothing could be considered "casual":

    http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20080818034513/memoryalpha/en/images/1/1f/Darok.jpg

    http://www.startrek.com/legacy_media/images/200306/ds9-557-kor-and-darok-are/320x240.jpg
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    Updated with a new section specifically for the Vet-reward Jacket.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    Lady Sirella's clothing:

    http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_cV7cTU5GHN0/STYXpqjt-VI/AAAAAAAAAIA/HlKnRSv1TXk/s1600-h/Sirella.JPG

    http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_cV7cTU5GHN0/STYYDiUgzlI/AAAAAAAAAII/LaEH9XCX8Ds/s1600-h/youarecordially050light.jpg

    http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_cV7cTU5GHN0/STYYR0QVG7I/AAAAAAAAAIQ/dz7Yc4GIfyg/s1600-h/youarecordially170.jpg

    As a companion to Kahless:

    Lukara's historical clothing (worn by Dax in simulation)

    http://application.denofgeek.com/images/gb/ds9/klingons.jpg


    more subtle shoulder pads (the current ones are somewhat over the top):

    http://blogs.sundaymercury.net/anorak-city/klingon%5B1%5D.jpg

    http://en.academic.ru/pictures/enwiki/77/Martok.jpg

    should be an alternative to the one-piece version:

    http://jordanhoffman.com/wp-content/uploads/292px-alexanderrozhenko2374.jpg
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    /subscribed. Great thread!
    Roach wrote: »
    ...Targs/Saurian as functioning pets in combat or a Targ/Saurian handler kit...
    Sureyerright! It would be nice to have a Captain be a "Targ Handler" like the NPC.

    And/or couldn't we get a BO with this ability?

    I'd like to be able to get different Klingon hair. The dreadlocks we have now are... disappointing. Pretty much the only cool do (IMHO) is the Top Knot (which really is a bald pony tail...). What about Warf's or B'Elanna's hair? Or not dread, but long wavy hair as worn by the Duras Sisters?

    Also, I'd like the various Kling clothes sharable between all the KDF. For example, why can't any KDF female wear the Orion outfits?

    And can we get some more colors in the Tailor? I know Klings are a dour/serious race, but why must I stick to the same muted pallet for an Orion or an Alien KDF?

    These are just some suggestions off the top of my head....
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