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...but I'd want it to be at least somewhat accurate, lore wise. I can't imagine what kind of weapons, shields and engines this sucker would have, but since its from the future I imagine they'd be pretty significant.
Anyway, I had never heard of it before and then when I saw it I thought it was hideous, but it started to make sense when I learned how big it was. Now I'm really liking the design. I'd love to have one.
Anyway, I had never heard of it before and then when I saw it I thought it was hideous, but it started to make sense when I learned how big it was. Now I'm really liking the design. I'd love to have one.
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Indefinitely. It's been canned by CBS. They said "no". Nor do I blame them.
However, I believe Dan mentioned that there was plans to make a ship that resembles it...sort of a natural progression to what it would eventually end up being.
The main reasons from what I understand has to do with the fact that Enterprise J is supposed to decades beyond where STO's timeline is based in, not to mention The J's size alone (Reportedly two miles in length or width) is something that seems out of place. And also, at some point CBS wants to make a boat load of cash on the J
You forgot to add that the J is 'Fugly' and would probably devalue the game with its existence
And there's no point in criticizing the Excelsior because the B'rel has been around far longer than it and the Klingons still use it as a front-line warship.
Who says I'm criticizing it? I like the Excelsior. I like almost all the ships. I'm a total ship geek. But if you can come up with an explanation why a 100 year old ship is used in the modern era then you can come up with an equally valid explanation for a ship from the future. Like time travel.
Construction on the U.S.S. Missouri (BB-63) was completed and it was commissioned in June of 1944. It was last used in actual combat in 1991, almost 50 years later.
Refitting surviving models of the Excelsior class with modern engines, electronics, shields and weapons is faster and less expensive than building entire new ships from scratch. So why wouldn't you do that during a time of war?
Now explain why you would bring the Enterprise J, in direct violation of the Temporal Prime Directive, back in time in huge numbers, to fight in a war that's already over and that the Federation won. Why would you do that? You know how I know that the Federation won? Because if it hadn't won then the Enterprise J would never have been built.
Having the Enterprise J exist in large numbers, which it would if put up on the C-Store, would be both stupid and a violation of canon. Perhaps people in CBS and Cryptic actually care at least a little bit about canon?
Rogue elements in Starfleet hundreds of years in the future send advanced starships back in time to upset the timeline for nefarious purposes.
If you purchase the Enterprise j through the c-store you get an awesome ship but at a price: other advanced ships will materialize periodically to try to take you down and restore temporal balance - kind of like the Nemesis system in Champions.
See? There you have a plausible explanation and an associated game mechanic. It's amazing what you can do in sci fi.
*sigh*
It's too bad that something that cool will never happen in this game.
And you just thought that what they were doing now was complain.... In Champions, players pitched a storm because their Nemsis' minions would interrupt/gank the hero in a mission (a villain attacking the hero when he's most distracted/vulnerable *gasp*).
I read Jim Butcher.. Like a rabid fanboi I bought and read the Dresdenverse RPG books when they came out. In the books, there beings that are so powerful that they aren't stated. They have 'plot device' level of power. They show up, you run or stay as best you can out of their way.
The Enterprise-J is no different. It has a size and scale and power that falls, squarely, with both feet, into 'plot device' levels of awesome (or power take your pick).
If it EVER.... EVER... graces the scene in STO, it will not be captained by a PC captain.
At best, the ship will be a location. A mission arc or STF will happen on it or around it.
Take the new poll... as an example... the leader is a Federation Splinter group.
The J comes back and has to be fought.. BY A FLEET.
you aint buyin it in the c-store....
just sayin....
The point of my post is that you could pull it off the J with a little creativity. I'd rather pay for something interesting than a simple sparklepony anyway.
Also, I play Champions too and if you're going down because of Nemesis minion ganking then you need to re-examine your power setup. I've been Nemesis ganked many times and it's rare that the minions even make it five steps before dropping.
I never stated it was for a fleet purchase. not sure where you got that from. I stated that the J would be scenery. It would be the focus of a fleet action or STF or mission arc.
Interesting that you denigrate cstore items as 'sparklepony' when the player community, largely, only wants cosmetic items in the c-store. I get that there are some players that want a little meat with their potatoes but anyways... that argument happens on other threads.
Just for the record, I've never faceplanted from a minion gank. My original statement involved the outcry from other players around the subject of minion ganking in the Nemesis arcs. Its relevant because there will be a similar outcry when time agents warp in while the player is in the middle of something.
If you would like a another example, take the complaints from players concerning getting sucked into DSEs when traveling in Sector Space.
My OP was to provide a suggestion/request to Cryptic. I'm not going to address your self-decided proclamations of what the Enterprise J will or will not be with a point-by-point rebuttal. Cryptic will either consider my suggestion or they won't; this isn't that big of a deal. Maybe you should calm down and get some fresh air, regain some perspective.
One thing I will say though: the toxic geekcore of this game will scream, whine, shriek and complain about ANY decision Cryptic makes at this point. I hope the devs aren't losing sleep over the nerdrage that will erupt if they decide to get creative and have fun with something.
Reason for edit:
It was 2:30am when I typed this the first time, my brain doesn't work that well after 12am. lol
I was wondering why I couldn't hear anything in this thread. I thought my speakers were broken.
I think you mean "moot". And while the class of ship that the Enterprise-J will become will NOT be in the game, there is still talk about making something that could possibly lead up to it.
Except that correct me if I'm wrong, it is the lowest level Klingon ship in the Fleet and the weakest. The Excelsior however is both a Tier 3 and Tier 5 Cruiser.