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#1 thing you want to see for KDF

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edited September 2010 in Klingon Discussion
Obviously we all have a list of things we'd like to see added to the Klingon faction, but what is the #1 thing at the top of your list? Mine would be an open PvP sector. Whats yours?
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  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    Obviously we all have a list of things we'd like to see added to the Klingon faction, but what is the #1 thing at the top of your list? Mine would be an open PvP sector. Whats yours?

    Klingon Great Houses

    would of said Open PVP but that benefits the Feds too
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    Serpieri wrote: »
    Klingon Great Houses

    would of said Open PVP but that benefits the Feds too

    What do you mean by "great houses"?
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    kdf only zones with planets, patrols, home worlds. u get the idea, but never going to happen.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    1) Territoral PvP (which is more than just Open PvP).
    2) Actual House Warfare (beyond queues and missions).
    3) More Storyline Missions

    * I've said in the past and like to say again, I would love to see a Klingon-side of the Federation Tier 1-2 Missions in Regulus and Pi Canis Sectors. After all the materials are there, just need to rewrite things from the Klingon perspective.

    ** Klingon Episodic missions regarding the Romulans and the fight over Khitomer.

    *** The Great Tribble Hunt - 2409.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    What do you mean by "great houses"?

    Its the House system ideas from before game lauch. Basically Klingons join a house, earn honor and advance through the ranks unlocking items, gear, uniform peices, etc..
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    Klingons


    That is all
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    Starbases!

    PvE with a rich and immersing Klingon story line!

    But, houses are pretty good, and so is this list.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    Azurian wrote: »
    I would love to see a Klingon-side of the Federation Tier 1-2 Missions in Regulus and Pi Canis Sectors. After all the materials are there, just need to rewrite things from the Klingon perspective.

    This would be very near the top of my list (which to be honest doesn't actually exist), also to appease the fed crowd while a klingon perspective is being added to the missions the fed side of the mission could get a once over to clean them up a bit ( for ones that need it) and maybe add in some of the new mission tech that has come out since launch. That way the feds can't complain the its klingon only content being worked on.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    Smaller TRIBBLE
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    A unique Klingon House advancement system that adds content and flavor to the faction.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    More episodes and more ground missions. My Gorn BO has a phaser and he's not afraid to use it.
    Smaller TRIBBLE

    They said KDF not KFC,

    Doh!
    :eek:
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    Many more storyline episodes.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    Sirius39 wrote:
    Smaller TRIBBLE

    Now that is just wrong....

    Anyways, I say "Klingon Content"... you fill in what that means.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    Many more storyline episodes.

    Jep, many more of them.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    The K´Vort BoP cruiser.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    the fact is that it doesnt matter what they do with pvp, they could give us whistles bells and coccaine from pvp and it wouldnt change the fact that because of no content to get from begining to 43 kdf is just a grindfest, most feds jump the rank pvp arenas due to amazing episodes and missions that give them blue gear, not to mention the storylines are so good in the fed episodes that by the time they have done messing and completing them they are nearly next rank and go finish there patrols off.

    so that leaves kdf waiting for feds who are brave enough to go head to head with the kdf in arenas for the fun of it, not because its needed, simply for the fun of it. thats a bias that can never be gotten over. and as a result the kdf is alot smaller then the feds because people who want kdf and do wish to pvp but not all the time go fed.

    whats funny is most the feds that complain that we complain that we want content themselves complain about the lack of content from ra6-va1, its amazing they cannot understand that this is the situation for kdf from 5-51.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    Content, that one will hopefully bring some old players back. PLAYERS!
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    At this point: Full Scale PvP

    A month ago I would have said content, but we've gotten all the unique content we're going to for the foreseeable future (for better or worse), but if they included a working territorial/open PvP system then I would start playing full time again.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    Developer commitment.

    Recent posts have me thinking the devs are just about ready to abandon KDF development and blame it on the players.

    Kind of like how I saw Roper blame poorly released patches live from Champions on the testers.

    It doesn't bode well.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    superchum wrote: »
    It doesn't bode well.

    No it doesn't......:(
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    superchum wrote: »
    Developer commitment.

    Recent posts have me thinking the devs are just about ready to abandon KDF development and blame it on the players.

    Kind of like how I saw Roper blame poorly released patches live from Champions on the testers.

    It doesn't bode well.


    This! seems to me they are ready to simply tell the KDF players to shove off and blame the failure on their part to create a second faction on the people that are so peed off with a carrot being dangled in front of them and never getting any closer to it.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    superchum wrote: »
    Developer commitment.

    Recent posts have me thinking the devs are just about ready to abandon KDF development and blame it on the players.

    Kind of like how I saw Roper blame poorly released patches live from Champions on the testers.

    It doesn't bode well.

    You guys really don't want to hear about the devs feeling, I take it.

    dstahl explicitely said in that post that he's not stopping or giving up, but he is sharing a genuine emotion with you, and you take from it: "Hey, they are giving up on us."

    Maybe at some point it will really come true, after all. I mean, some people seem to be working hard at proving that there is nothing to gain for it by Cryptic. No public relations, no more Klingon players, no new influx of gamers, no C-Store sales. Nothing. Just sorrow, dread, anger and hatred.

    I don't think it's really there yet. There are a lot of awesome suggestions and constructive critique going around. But at some point, people that offer that contribute in this way can also be driven off by the negativity. It's no fun making a good suggestion and then reading a lot of snarky comments how it won't matter, how Cryptic will never listen, how there is no hope. No one actually says anything of substance.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    Cryptic has not listened to all the great ideas which posted here during the last 7 months.

    Back to topic ;):

    I want to see the Fleet actions fixed and made playable through all levelbands, they are totally abandoned and bugged by now. Make a Klingon daily out of it so that through every level people come there to play them
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    You guys really don't want to hear about the devs feeling, I take it.

    dstahl explicitely said in that post that he's not stopping or giving up, but he is sharing a genuine emotion with you, and you take from it: "Hey, they are giving up on us."

    Yeah, yeah, yeah. And they play klingons too. And some of their best friends are klingons.

    Etc, etc, etc.

    Actions. They would speak louder than posts.
    But at some point, people that offer that contribute in this way can also be driven off by the negativity.

    Collecting a paycheck dictates that no matter how negative the negativity can get, that you still have to ... do your job. If that job is development in STO, then part of that job is developing the Klingon side of the game.

    And as many of the suggestions HERE have shown it won't take much to turn those frowns upside down.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    Hawks wrote: »
    Cryptic has not listened to all the great ideas which posted here during the last 7 months.

    Back to topic ;):

    I want to see the Fleet actions fixed and made playable through all levelbands, they are totally abandoned and bugged by now. Make a Klingon daily out of it so that through every level people come there to play them

    This.
    We have only gotten a real response from the devs about well anything since the KDF well whats left of it started to band together and actually complain about the lack of well anything. That tells me more than anything.

    Don't get me wrong the work they have done like the unique house of martok/ancient enemies like was great everyone I have talked to about it loved them. The problem is that it was a drop in the ocean . 1 story arc is not enough to break up the bordom of grinding star clusters over and over.

    Plus they keep spewing out fed ships left right and centre and then tell the KDF actually those new ships we promised in august well you aint getting them for at least another 6 weeks. I Don't mind waiting for the ships at all but what I do mind is how they lied to our faces about it. It is basically giving us the middle finger.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited September 2010


    This.
    We have only gotten a real response from the devs about well anything since the KDF well whats left of it started to band together and actually complain about the lack of well anything. That tells me more than anything.

    Don't get me wrong the work they have done like the unique house of martok/ancient enemies like was great everyone I have talked to about it loved them. The problem is that it was a drop in the ocean . 1 story arc is not enough to break up the bordom of grinding star clusters over and over.

    Plus they keep spewing out fed ships left right and centre and then tell the KDF actually those new ships we promised in august well you aint getting them for at least another 6 weeks. I Don't mind waiting for the ships at all but what I do mind is how they lied to our faces about it. It is basically giving us the middle finger.

    I know what you mean :(, it was just one drop of water on a hot stone.

    With the war going on in the main forums I wonder what will happen in the near future. The arguements there are not necesarilly needing to any progress. On the other hand I can not understand the Feddies how cry out that we have enough. Bad to be human :rolleyes:
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    1. Open PVP - any rank, class, or race.

    2. More ships. and to the same quality as the feds. Such as BO's and their ranks, slots for weapons and consoles, and even one or two uber ships like the feds ;)

    3. Truth. I can accept the fact if you say "on Dec 2010" you get a new ship but not next month we have several when there are not.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    Devs should realize that more customers = more $$$. I would pay for a uber-klink ship, a rabid pet targ who mauls anything within 10 meters, and most important word of mouth advertising will become positive.
    superchum wrote: »
    Yeah, yeah, yeah. And they play klingons too. And some of their best friends are klingons.

    Etc, etc, etc.

    Actions. They would speak louder than posts.



    Collecting a paycheck dictates that no matter how negative the negativity can get, that you still have to ... do your job. If that job is development in STO, then part of that job is developing the Klingon side of the game.

    And as many of the suggestions HERE have shown it won't take much to turn those frowns upside down.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    A mixed territorial PvP/PvE system. Start it as a "House v. House" mechanic, tweak it, polish it, then adapt it for "SF v. KDF."
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    superchum wrote: »
    Yeah, yeah, yeah. And they play klingons too. And some of their best friends are klingons.

    Etc, etc, etc.

    Actions. They would speak louder than posts.
    Really, they do? I am not seeing it. "Oh, yes, you added 8 Klingon storyline episodes. How quaint. Neat little uniforms you got there for the KDF. But seriously, when will you really start to do something for the Klingon Faction?"
    Meh.

    But we're hijacking this thread and I am just adding some antimatter to a plasma fire. This is about the #1 thing we want to see for the KDF.

    I think the number #1 thing I want to see currently are new ships and more ship customization option. But maybe I am just confusd by the allure of that, because I definitely want to see more Klingon-specific episodes, too. Maybe start with missions that cover Lt.5 to Lt.Cmdr 1, and then 2 missions per tier. And expand from there.

    Territory Control and all that is neat, but I have the feeling that a lot of Startrek players like to play the kind of stories we saw in the series, so we need episodes to get them hooked on Klingons.
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