I'd love to be able to get... more off-duty selections, like shirtless swimwear for Risa.
ST:Motion Picture uniforms.
Borg Outfits
Playable Borg (yes, I'd pay through the nose for it, too)
And even more ships
And, if no playable Borg in the C-Store, I'd like it re-instated to the lifetime membership plan. As it stands, I have no reason to get a lifetime membership, cause all I wanted from that is to play a Borg.
So, yes, Cryptic Devs, I'd pay $300 to get a playable Borg... pity you don't offer one!
it should be free, there is already a lot in the cstore. i didn't buy an subscription so i can buy everything in the c-store. this game was / is unfinisht, cryptic doesn't have to put all the cool goodies in the store.
please don't say we already have some cool goodies / missions / stuff, those are epic updates that should be ready when this game was launched.
as long people buy for real money goodies, as long cryptic milk players.
(like the new fed ships)
my idea of the cool goodies is to earn them by doing something ingame (and not 'make 5 friends to buy an subscription)
it should be free, there is already a lot in the cstore. i didn't buy an subscription so i can buy everything in the c-store. this game was / is unfinisht, cryptic doesn't have to put all the cool goodies in the store.
please don't say we already have some cool goodies / missions / stuff, those are epic updates that should be ready when this game was launched.
as long people buy for real money goodies, as long cryptic milk players.
(like the new fed ships)
my idea of the cool goodies is to earn them by doing something ingame (and not 'make 5 friends to buy an subscription)
Even if they made all the TRIBBLE in the c store free today, the game would still be unfinished. It's not like they are holding back real content in the store. All the stuff is useless fluff that some people are foolish enough to spend real money on. I'll take major season updates and patches for free as they have been doing since launch over all the "cool stuff" people seemed to be so worked up over. You want you free ship so bad and I think it's silly because I'd much rather have something new to do with my old ship.
it should be free, there is already a lot in the cstore. i didn't buy an subscription so i can buy everything in the c-store. this game was / is unfinisht, cryptic doesn't have to put all the cool goodies in the store.
subscribers are quickly approaching the $100 spent on subscription fees alone.
a hundred bucks.....
for a prematurely released MMO with the smallest amount of content I personally have ever seen in an touted full-scale MMO.
and it still is unfinished....and we are 'STILL' paying sub fees.... and still waiting.
and they think its "OK" to drop these $25 skins on us, and then saying "YOU players are the ones who wanted this, so we are gonna charge you this slap-in-the-face price".
hey STO ! we 'players' want what we paid for...... "PAID" is the key word.
how many of you have shelled out over $300 so far in this game ? ...
the box price and sub fee (or lifetime) .... what are those for again ??
for a prematurely released MMO with the smallest amount of content I personally have ever seen in an touted full-scale MMO.
and it still is unfinished....and we are 'STILL' paying sub fees.... and still waiting.
(...)
how many of you have shelled out over $300 so far in this game ? ...
Yup. Cryptic has clearly rolled us early adopters for money. STO will go down in MMO history as one of the top release success stories (they made a bundle at launch) with one of the worst/lowest continued subscription base.
I paid...
$60 Champions Online sub just to get "guaranteed" access to STO closed beta
$239.99 for lifetime sub
$59.95 for STO Digital Deluxe Edition from Direct2Drive
$79.99 for STO Collector's Edition from Gamestop
$62.50 for 5000 Cryptic points (still have a ton left)
That's $502.43 spent on an unfinished product that I rarely play anymore because content updates are far and few in-between, let alone the content itself is boring and repetitive.
Some of the spending was purely my fault (the collector's edition and the Cryptic points), but the lifetime sub, CO sub, and initial DDE were bought based upon what Cryptic said STO was going to be. And it never became even a sliver of what the community was told during development and the two betas. Oh well. $500 blown on a cruddy MMO is a lesson for me (I never spent that much before on any single game, MMO or not).
The jokes on us guys. Our love for Star Trek has classified us as a " flowing funds demographic "
That's nothing new. There's a reason that seasons of TNG cost $110 when they were first released as compared to seasons of other dramas like Law & Order or The West Wing, which came out of the gate only costing $40-50.
it just shows the loyalty and love of the Star Trek genre by the fans....
.... and now the ugly head of greed and the ability to take advantage of us has surfaced as a byproduct.
Indeed. And I'm not even a "Trekkie" either. I'm a "Trekker" who's a fan of Star Trek, Star Wars, and other sci-fi.
I'll probably get a lifetime sub with SWTOR coming out next year, but I'm certainly not going to be duped into all of the pre-order promotion crud. I'm sure Bioware/EA will be a little more honest than Cryptic with "exclusives" and such, but all-in-all Cryptic very much soured me on MMO promotion/propaganda.
That's nothing new. There's a reason that seasons of TNG cost $110 when they were first released as compared to seasons of other dramas like Law & Order or The West Wing, which came out of the gate only costing $40-50.
You can get Voyager, DS9, TNG, and others from Walmart now for around $40/boxed season. But yes, overpriced when they came out which is why I never bothered.
Indeed. And I'm not even a "Trekkie" either. I'm a "Trekker" who's a fan of Star Trek, Star Wars, and other sci-fi.
I'll probably get a lifetime sub with SWTOR coming out next year, but I'm certainly not going to be duped into all of the pre-order promotion crud. I'm sure Bioware/EA will be a little more honest than Cryptic with "exclusives" and such, but all-in-all Cryptic very much soured me on MMO promotion/propaganda.
You can get Voyager, DS9, TNG, and others from Walmart now for around $40/boxed season. But yes, overpriced when they came out which is why I never bothered.
Not to de-rail too much but you have obviosly not dealt with EA for any length of time....
I sigh when I see others scream over 'getting what they paid for'.
Software is a virtual item. You pay for a license. A right to use, and/or access features when conditions allow. MMO's introduce an interesting twist to this since it is a virtual world with items, currency, and characters. You do not own any virtual items. The company that made them does. Your license allows you the right to use them, but does not give you ownership. Read the EULA and TOS if you do not believe me.
Everyone is getting exactly what they paid for..... access to virtual things when conditions allow.
Now I will say that most software companies will tend to do the right thing and try to keep customers happy. In theory they do not have to, but no one would pay them if they did not enjoy the product. The rather common practice for software with the access to the internet these days is to release software as a open frame work. Once people start buying the company listens to feedback and designs features based on the feedback. This saves time, money, and overall production. Compared to earlier years it does seem like software is unfinished, but development wise it allows companies and customers to both get more of what they want. Sure companies could take longer to develop software, but that increases costs. The company would have to delay releases, increase the purchase price, and might never release the software as components become obsolete. Things are done certain ways for certain reasons. It may not seem right all the time, but that is the way of things.
So if you feel that you have been cheated, that you did not get what you paid for, and want to blame someone I suggest you look in the mirror first. You choose to hand over your hard earned money for that cardboard box, and shiny disc. You bought a license, and you agreed to the terms of the EULA/TOS. Consumers sometimes forget that like themselves, companies, are protected by the law also. You agreed to acontract, and it only promised you access to a server when conditions allow. Most MMO EULA and TOS state that you are licensed to access a server when conditions allow. That is what your $15 a month grants you, and nothing more. Another thought to consider is that the company and shut down the server when ever they want, even permanently, and that is it. They would not owe you anything.
Not to de-rail too much but you have obviosly not dealt with EA for any length of time....
Anything is better than Cryptic. I agree, I don't like EA much either, but I trust Bioware/EA much more than I trust Cryptic/Atari. Because my level of trust with Cryptic/Atari is zero on any scale.
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it should be free, there is already a lot in the cstore. i didn't buy an subscription so i can buy everything in the c-store. this game was / is unfinisht, cryptic doesn't have to put all the cool goodies in the store.
please don't say we already have some cool goodies / missions / stuff, those are epic updates that should be ready when this game was launched.
as long people buy for real money goodies, as long cryptic milk players.
(like the new fed ships)
my idea of the cool goodies is to earn them by doing something ingame (and not 'make 5 friends to buy an subscription)
Even if they made all the TRIBBLE in the c store free today, the game would still be unfinished. It's not like they are holding back real content in the store. All the stuff is useless fluff that some people are foolish enough to spend real money on. I'll take major season updates and patches for free as they have been doing since launch over all the "cool stuff" people seemed to be so worked up over. You want you free ship so bad and I think it's silly because I'd much rather have something new to do with my old ship.
QFT 10 char.
subscribers are quickly approaching the $100 spent on subscription fees alone.
a hundred bucks.....
for a prematurely released MMO with the smallest amount of content I personally have ever seen in an touted full-scale MMO.
and it still is unfinished....and we are 'STILL' paying sub fees.... and still waiting.
and they think its "OK" to drop these $25 skins on us, and then saying "YOU players are the ones who wanted this, so we are gonna charge you this slap-in-the-face price".
hey STO ! we 'players' want what we paid for...... "PAID" is the key word.
how many of you have shelled out over $300 so far in this game ? ...
the box price and sub fee (or lifetime) .... what are those for again ??
.
Yup. Cryptic has clearly rolled us early adopters for money. STO will go down in MMO history as one of the top release success stories (they made a bundle at launch) with one of the worst/lowest continued subscription base.
I paid...
- $60 Champions Online sub just to get "guaranteed" access to STO closed beta
- $239.99 for lifetime sub
- $59.95 for STO Digital Deluxe Edition from Direct2Drive
- $79.99 for STO Collector's Edition from Gamestop
- $62.50 for 5000 Cryptic points (still have a ton left)
That's $502.43 spent on an unfinished product that I rarely play anymore because content updates are far and few in-between, let alone the content itself is boring and repetitive.Some of the spending was purely my fault (the collector's edition and the Cryptic points), but the lifetime sub, CO sub, and initial DDE were bought based upon what Cryptic said STO was going to be. And it never became even a sliver of what the community was told during development and the two betas. Oh well. $500 blown on a cruddy MMO is a lesson for me (I never spent that much before on any single game, MMO or not).
you know...you might be onto something here.
I have a feeling "Nobody" here has spent even near this much on a game before, myself included.
it just shows the loyalty and love of the Star Trek genre by the fans....
.... and now the ugly head of greed and the ability to take advantage of us has surfaced as a byproduct.
The jokes on us guys. Our love for Star Trek has classified us as a " flowing funds demographic "
.
That's nothing new. There's a reason that seasons of TNG cost $110 when they were first released as compared to seasons of other dramas like Law & Order or The West Wing, which came out of the gate only costing $40-50.
Indeed. And I'm not even a "Trekkie" either. I'm a "Trekker" who's a fan of Star Trek, Star Wars, and other sci-fi.
I'll probably get a lifetime sub with SWTOR coming out next year, but I'm certainly not going to be duped into all of the pre-order promotion crud. I'm sure Bioware/EA will be a little more honest than Cryptic with "exclusives" and such, but all-in-all Cryptic very much soured me on MMO promotion/propaganda.
You can get Voyager, DS9, TNG, and others from Walmart now for around $40/boxed season. But yes, overpriced when they came out which is why I never bothered.
Not to de-rail too much but you have obviosly not dealt with EA for any length of time....
I sigh when I see others scream over 'getting what they paid for'.
Software is a virtual item. You pay for a license. A right to use, and/or access features when conditions allow. MMO's introduce an interesting twist to this since it is a virtual world with items, currency, and characters. You do not own any virtual items. The company that made them does. Your license allows you the right to use them, but does not give you ownership. Read the EULA and TOS if you do not believe me.
Everyone is getting exactly what they paid for..... access to virtual things when conditions allow.
Now I will say that most software companies will tend to do the right thing and try to keep customers happy. In theory they do not have to, but no one would pay them if they did not enjoy the product. The rather common practice for software with the access to the internet these days is to release software as a open frame work. Once people start buying the company listens to feedback and designs features based on the feedback. This saves time, money, and overall production. Compared to earlier years it does seem like software is unfinished, but development wise it allows companies and customers to both get more of what they want. Sure companies could take longer to develop software, but that increases costs. The company would have to delay releases, increase the purchase price, and might never release the software as components become obsolete. Things are done certain ways for certain reasons. It may not seem right all the time, but that is the way of things.
So if you feel that you have been cheated, that you did not get what you paid for, and want to blame someone I suggest you look in the mirror first. You choose to hand over your hard earned money for that cardboard box, and shiny disc. You bought a license, and you agreed to the terms of the EULA/TOS. Consumers sometimes forget that like themselves, companies, are protected by the law also. You agreed to acontract, and it only promised you access to a server when conditions allow. Most MMO EULA and TOS state that you are licensed to access a server when conditions allow. That is what your $15 a month grants you, and nothing more. Another thought to consider is that the company and shut down the server when ever they want, even permanently, and that is it. They would not owe you anything.
(removes Devil Horns)
Think it over.
Anything is better than Cryptic. I agree, I don't like EA much either, but I trust Bioware/EA much more than I trust Cryptic/Atari. Because my level of trust with Cryptic/Atari is zero on any scale.
Is all of this trolling really necessary? Think it over.