For some time Cryptic has managed to stay away from putting any game-altering items in the C-store. Even with the few latest rounds of releases nothing "game breaking" has really been released. If we were Romans or, better yet, Trojans C-store releases would merely be "fluff".
I say that "if we were" line because regardless of being "fluff" or not, different emotes, ship skins, bridge officers, really anything in the C-store, DOES offer a more enriched and satisfying player experience. It's for this reason that I'm going to take the opinion that C-store items ARE game altering.
With that said, STO and any game offering micro transactions, really do become a game of rich vs. poor. Sure, it's easy to say this being on the unemployed end of the player spectrum, but even when I was making $65k/yr I was in love with the micro-transaction system used in Perfect World International and I honestly believe that a similar model would do well here.
Currently, the only way to gain C points is directly through the website for cash. My proposal would be to introduce an "energy credit for C-point" exchange into the game. This allows players to buy C points and sell leftovers, or even all of them, on the exchange for energy credits. Conversely, it allows people without the extra cash, a means of buying C-store items. 7-day sales, offering real content items that are traded incrimentally for, these features allow for profit to be made through this trading process as well.
I dunno, I just think the game enhancing nature of C-store purchases makes it worth looking into a system by which all can experience at least some of the enhancements.
For those wondering, no, this isn't whine. I have my Galaxy X, I have my T5 cruiser skins and some bridge packs, I still manage to get the "cool stuff". Please feel free to build upon or to take in a different direction, my idea about this.
I have ab idea take pride and just put their own work in there. ships like the galaxy-x, excelsior, and nebula were all designed by someone else, and they are part of star trek canon. but for some reason they are releasing it for profit, and they are making money off of someone else's work.
so here is an idea? Release the canon, and Iconic ships, and then modify those. release the excelsior to the game, and make a few re skins for it, and sale those on the C-store. you already do this for all of the other canon ships. why not these. Don't take a short cut, use that talent you have, and make something new for the old designs. Release something that is your own, and something that you can take pride in.
The only thing that could redeem the c-store in my eyes is a free-to-play game. Before STO i never gave that any thought because Lotro which i play never tried to get extra money from me for essential parts of the IP.
As an example, it´s not like you had to buy Hobbits as a playable race.
My opinion on this shifted a little now that even more iconic symbols (like uniforms for example) going to the c-store, namely the new ships. When the exclusives went there i was reliefed that at least they became available to everyone just loving Star Trek.
I also have to say that i´m not so sure that Cryptic is to blame here for those decisions, after all they´re owned by Atari, which does not seem to have a good reputation. I honestly believe that the devs are quite talented and it would be a shame if their reputation goes down because they´re pressured into this kind of behaviour.
Only time will tell what will happen, but the course this all is taking isn´t very appealing.
I have ab idea take pride and just put their own work in there. ships like the galaxy-x, excelsior, and nebula were all designed by someone else, and they are part of star trek canon. but for some reason they are releasing it for profit, and they are making money off of someone else's work.
so here is an idea? Release the canon, and Iconic ships, and then modify those. release the excelsior to the game, and make a few re skins for it, and sale those on the C-store. you already do this for all of the other canon ships. why not these. Don't take a short cut, use that talent you have, and make something new for the old designs. Release something that is your own, and something that you can take pride in.
Erm, I like Star Trek. I don't want to play Cryptic Trek.
The only thing that could redeem the c-store in my eyes is a free-to-play game.
and we will be less the lifers for it (well less the non die hard Cryptic fan lifers) because I dont see anyone being happy about paying $300 for a game that moves to a free to play model
I wonder though would the worlds 'economy' need to be changed in order to support a hybridized model like that though. To me it seems rather easy, especially when you get higher up in the game, to make ECs. Short of devaluing ECs or making the exchange rate so insane that it makes Zimbabwe's currency look like a normal economic model, I don't know it can be done at present.
IM not the one who wants something that isnt here
I LIKE this game. You?
I like the game, simply suggesting a way to make micro transactions more paletable to the masses. I'm not the one who said the game needs several major re-writes to be Star Trak and not Cryptic Trek btw.
Erm, I like Star Trek. I don't want to play Cryptic Trek.
umm then you should support it because without the canon designs it is not star trek, it is cryptic trek. Give us canon ships and make it part of the STAR TREK game.
and we will be less the lifers for it (well less the non die hard Cryptic fan lifers) because I dont see anyone being happy about paying $300 for a game that moves to a free to play model
Then without several MAJOR rewrites, you are definately playing the wrong game.
i wouldnt mind, so long as i get my 250-300$ back in cash/c-store points. becasue i actually like this game *shock,horror*
umm then you should support it because without the canon designs it is not star trek, it is cryptic trek. Give us canon ships and make it part of the STAR TREK game.
What he's saying is ... the entire concept of the game is based on someone else's work. Cryptic is making money off of someone else's work no matter what they do. So your point about not making money off of somenoe else's designs? Kind of hard when you're part of Starfleet. Or the Klingon Defense Force.
What he's saying is ... the entire concept of the game is based on someone else's work. Cryptic is making money off of someone else's work no matter what they do. So your point about not making money off of somenoe else's designs? Kind of hard when you're part of Starfleet. Or the Klingon Defense Force.
oh well to what I mean is for the C-store make you own designs, and give the CANON part tot he fans.
What he's saying is ... the entire concept of the game is based on someone else's work. Cryptic is making money off of someone else's work no matter what they do. So your point about not making money off of somenoe else's designs? Kind of hard when you're part of Starfleet. Or the Klingon Defense Force.
I assume that they actually make money off licensed bits in the game. Considering they have to pay a usage fee for some of those designs I wonder what is break even and whether they take a loss on some things and make it up elsewhere.
Even though there never should have been a C-store, it's here now. The right thing to do right now would be to just undo the entire thing, take the store down except for stuff like character rename, and refund people any points they spent on fluff.
It's the right thing, but the unlikely thing.
Making the items available with ingame currency and/or giving out a number of C-store credits each month to subs might be less ideal, but it would still be a vast improvement.
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so here is an idea? Release the canon, and Iconic ships, and then modify those. release the excelsior to the game, and make a few re skins for it, and sale those on the C-store. you already do this for all of the other canon ships. why not these. Don't take a short cut, use that talent you have, and make something new for the old designs. Release something that is your own, and something that you can take pride in.
As an example, it´s not like you had to buy Hobbits as a playable race.
My opinion on this shifted a little now that even more iconic symbols (like uniforms for example) going to the c-store, namely the new ships. When the exclusives went there i was reliefed that at least they became available to everyone just loving Star Trek.
I also have to say that i´m not so sure that Cryptic is to blame here for those decisions, after all they´re owned by Atari, which does not seem to have a good reputation. I honestly believe that the devs are quite talented and it would be a shame if their reputation goes down because they´re pressured into this kind of behaviour.
Only time will tell what will happen, but the course this all is taking isn´t very appealing.
Thank for reading.
Erm, I like Star Trek. I don't want to play Cryptic Trek.
and we will be less the lifers for it (well less the non die hard Cryptic fan lifers) because I dont see anyone being happy about paying $300 for a game that moves to a free to play model
Then without several MAJOR rewrites, you are definately playing the wrong game.
Peculliar, for some reason, you're still here. Misread the label?
IM not the one who wants something that isnt here
I LIKE this game. You?
I like the game, simply suggesting a way to make micro transactions more paletable to the masses. I'm not the one who said the game needs several major re-writes to be Star Trak and not Cryptic Trek btw.
umm then you should support it because without the canon designs it is not star trek, it is cryptic trek. Give us canon ships and make it part of the STAR TREK game.
super-star destroyer.
wookies,race.
lightsabres.
BTTF hover boards.
just a few off the top of my head :rolleyes:
i wouldnt mind, so long as i get my 250-300$ back in cash/c-store points. becasue i actually like this game *shock,horror*
What he's saying is ... the entire concept of the game is based on someone else's work. Cryptic is making money off of someone else's work no matter what they do. So your point about not making money off of somenoe else's designs? Kind of hard when you're part of Starfleet. Or the Klingon Defense Force.
oh well to what I mean is for the C-store make you own designs, and give the CANON part tot he fans.
I assume that they actually make money off licensed bits in the game. Considering they have to pay a usage fee for some of those designs I wonder what is break even and whether they take a loss on some things and make it up elsewhere.
It's the right thing, but the unlikely thing.
Making the items available with ingame currency and/or giving out a number of C-store credits each month to subs might be less ideal, but it would still be a vast improvement.