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Hi i was wondering for a while now kinglons have a carrier but starfleet dosnt is there going be a fix to this the dread is fine i guess its just a galaxy bs with an extral engeine the size is the same if u make dread biger then the battle ship sise it be nice people would love it but will u have a carrier soon to buy in C-Store ? for Starfleet ?
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  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    I sure hope not. A Carrier would be an entire new type of ship, the Galaxy-X is basicly just a special T5 variant, which can be somewhat compared to the upcomming Retrofit T5 ships - they doesn't seem to be actually stronger, but have unique abilities which make them an interesting alternative for many players.
    C-Store items are meant to be mostly for visual purposes only, a complete Carrier would be too much impact into game balance, if there isn't a way to claim one ingame.

    In addition I think it would be nice to let every faction an "own" type of ship, let the Klingons keep their carrier for themselves.

    Last but not least I dislike the idea of overusing the fighter/carrier system. There were only a very few moments in Star Trek where fighters played a part in any space battles.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    Teslanar wrote:
    I sure hope not. A Carrier would be an entire new type of ship, the Galaxy-X is basicly just a special T5 variant, which can be somewhat compared to the upcomming Retrofit T5 ships - they doesn't seem to be actually stronger, but have unique abilities which make them an interesting alternative for many players.
    C-Store items are meant to be mostly for visual purposes only, a complete Carrier would be too much impact into game balance, if there isn't a way to claim one ingame.

    In addition I think it would be nice to let every faction an "own" type of ship, let the Klingons keep their carrier for themselves.

    Last but not least I dislike the idea of overusing the fighter/carrier system. There were only a very few moments in Star Trek where fighters played a part in any space battles.

    Agreed. I don't think "homogenization" of all "factions" is a good idea. Let federation and klingon be unique in their own ways.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    There have been some in-canon talk about Fed fighters and carriers -- and licensed works is rife with them, from the old, awful Battlestations! novel to ST: Invasion and ST: Shattered Universe -- so there's some call for them. However, it doesn't seem to be the Federation's idiom, and while I think a lot of us would like to see Peregrine of Valkyrie fighters, they're kind of hard to justify with the targeting systems aboard ships. We've seen how fast entire squadrons of To'duj fighters go down in the face of even a typical ship's beam arrays.

    That being said, Feds might make use of them more as the Long War drags on. According to the book, they're deploying marines/MACOs again after relying on Starfleet Security personnel. They might start deploying fighters and similar attrition units if the Long War gets really nasty and the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the one (fighter squadron.)

    I don't think it'll be as prevalent as it's seen in the Klingon carrier, however. I can see the Akira carrying one flight -- Word of God (or at least Word of Dante) has it that it was designed as a battlecarrier type of ship -- but not any actual dedicated carriers, at least not yet. That, or they go the Midway route from Wing Commander IV: Something insanely huge, slow, and exists mostly as a mobile starbase. That being said, while I am not inherently against the idea of a Federation carrier, I agree that I'd like to see more stuff Klinkside, and more stuff to give Klingons more differentiation than cloaks and carriers.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    Monopolist wrote:
    Agreed. I don't think "homogenization" of all "factions" is a good idea. Let federation and klingon be unique in their own ways.

    I'll second that. There needs to be some differentiation between factions. The Federation already has access to cloaking technology now with the Galaxy-X (which technically they shouldn't, but this IS war, after all...I think...where IS the war happening, anyway?), which should have stayed with the Klingons (and Romulans when they're introduced). The carriers seem to be more of a Klingon thing than Federation. If they DO decide to put in a carrier, it should be something like the Akira.

    This reminds me of what happened with World of Warcraft...when Burning Crusade hit. The Horde had their own class...the shaman. The Alliance had their own class...the paladin. They decided to give them out to the opposing faction (of course, people asked for it so they did), which eliminated one of the unique identifying factors of the factions. Don't get me wrong...I enjoyed playing my Dranei shaman, so it can still be a good thing.

    I just don't think it works in the context of Star Trek, though. But that's just my two cents.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    Vee9900 wrote:
    Hi i was wondering for a while now kinglons have a carrier but starfleet dosnt is there going be a fix to this the dread is fine i guess its just a galaxy bs with an extral engeine the size is the same if u make dread biger then the battle ship sise it be nice people would love it but will u have a carrier soon to buy in C-Store ? for Starfleet ?

    GO GO GADGET TYPHON-CLASS! MAKE IT SO CRYPTIC!
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    If they make a Fed Carrier I will play "Flight of the Valkyries" everytime I deploy fighters!!

    As for differences between factions: I have been repeatedly bashed for suggesting anything against the basic MMO philosophy that everyone is the same......

    This is an MMO.... You have been assimilated...... You will remain Homogenized.....
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    Fed Carrier? C-Store?

    Never gonna happen.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    I wouldn't say that, money makes the world go round and, talk is cheap.

    They would make a ton from the carriers being added.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    leave the boring stuff to the klinks.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    Vee9900 wrote:
    Hi i was wondering for a while now kinglons have a carrier but starfleet dosnt is there going be a fix to this the dread is fine i guess its just a galaxy bs with an extral engeine the size is the same if u make dread biger then the battle ship sise it be nice people would love it but will u have a carrier soon to buy in C-Store ? for Starfleet ?


    Be happy with the 5 new ships you get.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    Ok so some people think having a carrier for Starfleet is a bad ideal an some people think its a good ideal personaly i think is a good ideal scents i got my Butt hannded to me by a kinglon carrier in pvp not sure how many carrier was there but sad to say i got to see a good blast. so much fighter Sent at me wasnt anything i can do but go boom and boom.

    ok back to topic if Carriers arent possible for Starfleet yet then how bout make the skill that science charcter have that create 2 hologram of the user ship or somthing like that saw it once not sure wat it called but lasted a few sec how bout something along that line give us a science officer that can do that either in c-store or in game rare officer.

    i rember star trek made a fighter game were sulu was captian of a ship an ur in a fighter stuck in another dimenson trying to get home isnt this star trek in another dimenson too ? if people still say carrier was never made or thought of for the Star fleet wat bout that game think it was called Star Trek invasion not sure if u played it if u have then u see star fleet carrier is possible rite ? wouldnt u want a carrier for StarFleet ? for some reason i wanted to see it name Prototype-X Class Ship. ill leave my though there for now :)
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    That game was shatterd Universe. SFC does use fighters. They used them during the dominion war as seen in DS9. I could see them making a varient of the Akira as a carrier, She is soppose to have a whole deck equiped to function as a shuttle bay. Personally id like to see moldels os ship from other ST Games used. Ships like the Typhoon and Arkroyal,
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    you want a carrier make a Klingon
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    Yah, you don't want to take away ALL their IWIN buttons!

    Actually I do!

    The addition of a Federation Carrier into a game that already has a Carrier albet an opposing (and very vocal) faction should not be a problem from either the gameplay or programming aspect.

    You Klingons got to share your toys!

    I'm pretty sure the Romulans use Carriers as well......
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