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For essentially doing the same thing as another group of players and then not compensate both sets of players?
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so some people are calling for 1000 C-store points per box, and lets say we have 50000 people.
50000
x $ 12.50 ( cost of the 1000 points )
$625000 of potential sales that would lose
or lets sat 10000 people, that would still be $125000 would be lost.
as you can see they would lose a lot of potential sales from doing that.
that is just one box each, it does not take in account two, three or more boxes.
now if I was wrong about boxes, and you are talking about COLTS, well then give me how much you would like cryptic to give them, and how many COLTS you think there are total. ( guesstimate )
but I'm soon to gone due to diner plans.
Then wehn people say anything negative they either delete their comments or shove them in subforums where they'll never be seen.
In short they're acting as if they're god's gift to gamers.
It will cost them in the end.
Well when so many people go out and buy 5 copys of the game and pay to start 5 extra accounts just to get a slightly different ship, who wouldn't think the player base is a bunch of morons?
And with so many COLTS complaining that they paid 200 bucks for a life time sub to a game they don't want to play just to get an outfit that is later put in the C-Store. I doubt Cryptic thinks any of the players are smart enough to eat without a feeding tube.
I've noticed they leave comments up from all the people calling Cryptic lairs and scam artists, but when I point out paying that much money for a ship or an outifit in an MMO is gaming at a Forest Gump level then they delete my comment because I hurt someone feelings.
Oh well, hey I gotta run, there's a new referral program, recruit 50 players and you get a new combadge. Looks like I'm off to the mall to buy 50 copys of the game right after I e-mail the prince of Nigeria my bank account number so he can leave the royal family's fortune in my safe keeping.
Sweat someone fell for it... umm I mean go help the prince.
but I do have to disagree with you. ( if you were not being sarcastic ) they are not going to give them compensation because they would lose to much of the C-store income. just look at my first post, and you will see it.
Well the only flaw with that math is that there weren't that many people who got the reward. I think one of the GMs said only about 50 Galaxy Xs were flying around in the game when they decided to end the promotion.
oh no that math was for box sales.
the galaxy-x is $2500, or $3750 if we were to get another 25 before the month is over.
So your first post is talking about everyone who bought more then one copy of the game for any reason?
If that is the case then the reason Cryptic won't give all of them 1000cp is simple.
If you bought an extra copy of the game to get some item, then you received your item. You didn't lose the item once it went on the C-store, and you don't get refunds just because you over paid for something.
When I bought my first flat screen TV I paid $1000 six months later it went down to $800. RCA would have laughed at me if I went to them for a $200 refund. It's just the way the world works. I'm shocked some many people don't get that.
These people who are crying about wanting compensation will see your post and just cry more because Cryptic is "greedy" and isn't a non profit company looking to help the poor disenfranchised trekies of the world.
well that's just one copy for each person. i did not take in to account what multiple copies would do. the 50k was the total fan base, ( I know there is more, but that is an easy number for people ) and that was the total lost to cryptic if they gave 1000 points to everyone just once. not taking in account more then one copy.
you are most likely to be right, chances are it will be blown off.
that is fine... it's 2 in the morning where I'm at so I'm also slow.
Zode...
sometimes you need to pick and choose your battles. Don't just pick pick pick
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They ended the Referral Program less than two months after launching it. As a Recruiter, I had all my friends and family members already in the fame or tried it and didn't like it. I went recruiting.
I sent out more than 50 keys. Of those 50, EIGHT bought the game after playing the cheesy 1-hour demo that required (for some) a 2-3 download of the full client (10+ gig)
I tried to soften that blow by telling them that they actually downloaded the entire client and a retail key would give them full access to the game, but that went horribly wrong. If the fanboys (sic) ever looked in the tech forums they would know this.
NONE of the buddy perks ever worked, and to this day are still broken. Did Cryptic Marketing listen to your polls? NO ! they figured it would be easiest to pay off the early adopters of the program and just sell the ship outright.
They knew way in advance that STEAM would be selling the box game for pennies above the monthly fee.
If anyone in their Marketing team is above the age of 30 I'd be shocked. How they even got a degree is amazing. Gaming is no longer a young business, and hiring interns at 20k a year is no longer reaping the best and the brightest.
Judging by the STFs, this entire crew has no idea how to create an immersive and challenging game. All they managed to do was collect a bunch of F2P players that like Star Trek and suckered them into the idea that a micro-transaction store is the norm for a subscription based game.
Welcome to the forums. Please read the thread before insulting nameless others. Beware the Hammer.
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it's not that there is a lot of people, but it's the fact that they have to compensate everyone, and it would be a guaranteed lost of profit. there is no guarantee that they will make that much, but if they give points out to everyone it is guaranteed that they wont make that much.
as for being fair I will keep that to myself. I'm trying my best to give the facts, and not fight the opinions.
I wasn't picking a fight I was showing the facts. if you don't believe me then do the math yourself. take how much the C-points equal in dollars, and times it by the amount of people playing, or do what I did, and pick a good even number 50k. you will get how much money they are guaranteed to lose, and they are most likely not going to take that big of a lost to give out free points to everyone.
I don't how what any of that has to do with weather or not people deserve to be compensated. Even if this program went off with out a hitch, I can't see a reasonable person thinking it was worth the effort based on the reward. And I surely can't blame Cryptic for not knowing people would just buy a bunch of copys of the game and a bunch of subs for some ship variant. I wouldn't have guessed anyone would be that foolish. Maybe I have to much faith in humanity.
I think people mean 1000 CP per box AFTER the initial box. As in your second, thrid, fourth etc get 1000 CP. I only bought one box, so I shouldn't get that 1000 CP. If it were just 1000 CP per box for everyone then yes, that is a lot of lost revenue. However, if its per every other box after initial, its a much smaller loss. And at the same time giving out probably a couple thousand C-Store Points isn't bad because there is about $135 worth of stuff on the C-Store. People would always buy more, especially if more gets added. They would essentially take a small loss (if its a loss at all, considering some may never buy on the C-Store cuz of the change in policy) to secure a larger influx of Cash.
If it were up to me, I would give
A) 1000 CP per EXTRA box
C) 3000 CP per CE buyers.
Will they follow mine? No. Will I get flamed for making this statement of my beliefs? Most definitely.
You certainly won't get flamed by me. I think it's a pretty good idea. And it makes things more fair.
Thank you. The only thing I'm unsure of is since some people bought multiple copies of the game, their multiple copies may be DDE or CE, so should they get the bonus CP for the multiple copies AND the Special Editions? Or one or the other?
Seeing as how I'm one of them (both DDE and CE) it wouldn't matter to me either way. Just the olive branch of offering SOMETHING goes a long way.
I know what you mean.
Sir, you have my phaser (in support of this idea).
And my axe!
Whoops. Wrong franchise.
You may have my Bat'leth, and I shall may my POINT with it, if you get my meaning,
Hahaah