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Ok before you throw anything at me let me start by saying that i am a HUGE trekie, treker whatever.
I love the klingons and was disapointed that they were enemies of the federation in this game, but i digress.
The game is awesome, but the klingon side really needs a great deal of work. Finding anything is a pain, there are no signs, yes i know i will figure it out, but alas i am a jackass.
The ship selection is sad and the options make me weep.
The PVE game play has gotten better, and i understand that it will be greatly improved very soon.
Alas, i am just frustrated with the klingon side. I want so much to play a klingon, yet i can not bring myself to do so.
For those of you out there who see me as a blithering idiot who can't see the forest for the trees i ask of you, "Why would i play a klingon in the current state of the game?"
So convert me please, i want more drinking songs and blood wine dammit!
I love the klingons and was disapointed that they were enemies of the federation in this game, but i digress.
The game is awesome, but the klingon side really needs a great deal of work. Finding anything is a pain, there are no signs, yes i know i will figure it out, but alas i am a jackass.
The ship selection is sad and the options make me weep.
The PVE game play has gotten better, and i understand that it will be greatly improved very soon.
Alas, i am just frustrated with the klingon side. I want so much to play a klingon, yet i can not bring myself to do so.
For those of you out there who see me as a blithering idiot who can't see the forest for the trees i ask of you, "Why would i play a klingon in the current state of the game?"
So convert me please, i want more drinking songs and blood wine dammit!
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"We've got Orion women" convincing enough for you?
I stopped logging in my KDF toon weeks ago, and only returned because I found a fleet that adds to my fun. But honestly, 90 % of the fun comes only from being in that fleet, not from being on KDF side. It makes the lack of everything simply easier to deal with.
I used to love flying my carrier, but as a Tac officer, I just don't feel like I'm able to compete now (post 1.2) unless I'm in a Raptor or Negh'Var. I'm in a decent fleet, so I log in and run the daily missions. Other than that, I'm starting to gravitate back to my Fed Engineer.
Which blows, because I really do prefer playing as a Klingon.
Seriously there is no reason to play Klingon.
PvE - Limited
PvP - Almost non exsistant and what we have is mindless, we need realm verse relam, open world, instances that aren't mindless killing.
Customiuzation - Very limited compared to Feds
Subscription - Same as feds for a fraction of the game
kill 10, 15, 20 dumb pve mob ships then wait 5 minutes, rise, repeat 40k times.
queue up for 3 of the 4 maps that have ppl.
wait 2-20 minutes for 5- 9 minutes of actual play**
**unless its 2v8 ..
join a fleet
and sit in /zone chat .
its a mmo thing, some do it better and some do it slightly better.
I always have that feeling deep down that I can't compete. Its the small things. With an all Nausicaan crew, for example, I can't use tribbles. For no reason. They react like I'm Klingon. I actually hate tribbles, but I like to breed them and sell them. This tiny piece of fun - results in annoying squeaks whenever I store a tribble in my BO slots. Sucks.
Then, I barely have use for crafted items, and the crafting is all but perfect. Still, I like crafting stuff. Can't do that on KDF side. Even worse, I'm 'lucky' to find exploration missions with leftover anomalies I can scan from copy/paste Fed missions. Its like teasing me, 'lhere, have a reminder that you can't craft'.
I play almost only profit driven characters. Smugglers, traders, pirates. So the financial aspects - selling tribbles and crafted items - makes a big part of my fun, and in these aspects, I can really not keep up with my Fed toons. Which are all Ferengi and quite unhappy about being in the Federation; but after all, they can breed tribbles and craft.
In other words, I'm caught with the only Fed species I like - one of the few species you can't make in the alien creator - in a faction I dislike, and my fun comes from the RP part of selling out this faction to my KDF allies. Its all not 'real' - as in a real part of the gameplay and options. Its nothing but make believe and I highly doubt that was what Cryptic had in mind as the main source of fun.
I want my Nausicaans to be *pirates*, not have a trait called 'piracy'. I wanna ambush unarmed traders, steal their cargo and leave them to die on desolate rocks with barely an atmosphere. I want a Talon and an asteroid base with a huge storage deck full of stolen cargo crates. And what do I have? Clipping dreadlocks and a Raptor. :rolleyes:
That would be cool. I tried a few times to play my klingon as of late and It is really sad.
I would love to play a privateer, Maybe small fighters and a cargo ship.
It would be interesting, but rather divergent from the rest of the gameplay.
When I see what the Feds got and will I get I think they should rename the game Starfleet Online, thats what it mainly is. I even stopped believing in the Engineering reports. I'll only believe in what I will see when it's going live, until then I believe nothing more from anybody from Cryptic.
I and a few friends have searched and really wanted to enjoy a strong RP driven Klingon fleet. Nothing would thrill us more than to log in to our Klingon characters, run some battles and then retire to the bar for bloodwine and stories before logging out.
However, as it's been said many times and many ways.... There is no Klingon game at the moment and to pay a monthly fee to be frustrated is pure madness. So it ends up being a vicious cycle. We don't play Klingons because there is no reason to and, I assume, Cryptic doesn't put in reasons to because they say no one is playing Klingons and it's better to support the greater customer majority.
Either way, as much as I love Star Trek, after seeing the videos and such for other MMO's, especially Star Wars, coming out, I don't see it able to compete unless Cryptic truly gets their head on straight.
As for the tribbles, I am pretty sure you can use them as a Klingon and I would only assume you could as a Nausican. Yes, the tribble loses it's mind when you pull it out, but you still get the buff. I'm going on hearsay here because I haven't given one to my klingon yet and don't play a klingon on the Fed side, but I have a friend that does. Tickles him pink to pull out that Tribble for his Fed Klingon officer and watch it poke it irritatedly while it squeals in fear. He said he still gets the buff so I suppose it would work on the Red side too... If anyone can verify that would be good.
If the Klingons get some attention, I'll be back. Till then, I'll kill time with my Fed side Captain, I suppose....
Dunno about you, but I'd rather have a bit more space to fly around in. Feels like Cryptic locked us up in there and then forgot about us. I feel like an adopted ginger kid now O_O
I love people who obviously push ahead to quickly drink the kool-aid. Makes it easier to see which one comes in tangy grape and which one has the hint of antifreeze... :rolleyes:
Saying they are the same, unfortunately doesn't make it so. Don't get me wrong, I really wish it did. I want to see the game succeed and truly enjoy the Klingon faction, however calling a Targ a Tribble doesn't make it friendly to pet. There are far more lists and descriptive posts showing the differences that to list them again for your benefit would just be redundant.
One of the things that you'll be noticing going forward is that almost all of the content we're making going forward will be available to Klingon Players.
We've got some pretty awesome stuff lined up specifically for you all as well in Season Two. As a Klingon player myself, I'm really looking forward to it, and I hope you'll be excited by it once you all learn more as well.
Thanks,
Stormshade
so basically what you are saying is we gonna make fed suff and let you klingons use it as well .
I find it kinda odd that you guys can make a full diplomatic level system for the feds while klingons is in this sorry state and then try and hype up we getting 8 missions ....... sorry but im not biting no more...
That's good to hear Stormy. It does get frustrating at times, but just seeing you guys post on the Klingon boards more often would do wonders for morale.
I know that we've got a lot of content incoming, and I'm grateful for it. It's not like we're demanding all of your attention, almost every post that I've read decrying a lack on the Klingon side acknowledges that the Feds need love too. We know that we're not going to get exclusive attention on any updates, but it would be awesome if you guys could post a bit more, even if it's just to ask our opinion about something, or simply let us know that you're aware of our issues.
Better be some bikini's for my Orion in there!... oh yeah and a few PvE thingies... yep.
OMG I know the feeling, Got so bored I would fly into Romulans and let the ship fire while i watch a movie , rinse repeat.. god so boring and slow omg...
Its to the point that dieing its like big deal, i hope those 2 frigs are there to kill when i respawn, rinse repeat boring boring, anger building, boring..lol..
you get the point ..
Maybe I might be leveled up in Klingon space maybe by December this year , not really holding my breath.
i can live without the content and the limited storyline, but i rolled a klingon for ships that cloaked and starfleet online took that and gave it to crybaby feds with the galaxy x. i don't care if klingons can have the galaxy x. for anybody at crptic to say that they haven't pushed aside klingon players is a joke without a punchline. and 8 missions isn't going to impress me
Sorry, but I'm no longer believing this sort of posts. 8 episodes and the bits to come is nothing, after Cryptic has driven away so many Klingons with doing nothing while giving the Feds new content, upgraded crafting and so on.
Fully right. The Feds cry out for nerv, Cryptic nerved. They cried out for Caitans, Cryptic did it. Then Cryptic made a poll for new ships, unsurprisingly only Federation ships. They have abandoned us Klingons long ago. Season 2 is to little two late. We had to endure punishment and more by the Feds, and all we get is this little bone called Season 2 :mad:
I want to trust that they aren't that petty. Devolving the discussion to insulting won't strengthen our argument or make them more inclined to listen. We can show our frustration, but let's do it with facts and suggestions, and if finally needed, subscription cancellations, but not personal attacks.
I give credit for him coming to even post. As it was pointed out, we don't want the moon on a silver platter, we just want acknowledgement that the game is broken and proof that its being fixed. Unfortunately we are past the point of trusting blind "we have big plans!" statements and are now into the "Ok, we know we gave you short stick, but we did it only because we had time for one side and business decisions were that the Feds would get done first. However, our plans to fix the Klngons are THIS, THIS, and THIS and here is a solid timeline when those will be implemented. Work with us and we will support you." statements.
im just beeing angry as i am mainly a klingon char i bought this game to play klingon and i belived in jack emmeret but clairly that was well far fetched, i am a lifer as you can see and i love everything trek i used to be a cryptic fan from old COH/COV (city of heros/city of villains ) but as of late i am getting more and more disillusioned by how they do their jobs ,seems they mostly after dooing costumes c-store items all to keep players around for the next month so they can keep the game running, but i might be wrong or what ever its time for cryptic to actually deliver.. I cant eaven think about them trying to add romulans in the game as a faction when klingons are in this sorry state . They have taken time to add a whole new leveling system for the federation the diplomatic core lots of new art new races ships etc off duty costumes etc , and for klings we gonna have to wait for 8 missions some few costume mods ... but we will see...
Oh and before anyone rant about my spelling im from norway.....
Brother, I am with you on that. Hopefully I didn't come across as some kool-aid drinking fanboi for Cryptic since I'm far from it. I give them credit where credit is due, but I'm also of the mindset that you are only as good as what you DO, not what you SAY.
I still have my COH/COV account and jump over there every once in a while. While they aren't perfect, they have done some great things. In fact, that's just the point, any company that plans on putting out an MMO should have advisors who are deep players of other MMOs so they can honestly see what works and what doesn't work there for use here. They shouldn't make an exact copy, but why reinvent the wheel if its working elsewhere?
As for being from Norway, I was stationed in Europe years ago and loved to go visit that neck of the woods. Gorgeous lands, incredible women, and some great beer!
Anyhow, even though I agree with you, I just was hoping that Cryptic and it's people are better than just being petty about personal feelings. I honestly don't believe they have actively chosen to forgot us maliciously, they have simply made the business decision to push us to the back of the bus. Now, that said, I would rather they were honest with us about it being a business decision and let us know exactly how they plan on fixing it than blowing sunshine up our exhaust pipes with generic "Trust us, we have big plans for you!".
I understand that Cryptic is a company and they are driven by business models, but they have to start recognizing what I've said from the beginning. It's harder to get players back once you have lost them, and currently they are hemorrhaging them like a stuck Targ with their actions.
If they want to fix the Klingons, they need to do a number of things. Least of which is to get a regular presence on the forums as a "Klingon Representative Moderator" or something. The complete lack of regular voices unfortunately just axacerbates the frustration because the players don't know what is actually happening. If they don't have the current manpower to do it, then look to the passionate players here for a volunteer. I have ran forums and game communities before and know that it's vital that a community have regular communication. Not speaking for anyone else, but I know that I would be thrilled to see them succeed and help make it happen.
Thanx for your support in this i just hope its not to late to save the faction from the federation goon swarm :P
yeah they could make a huge hit of this not just a small game like it is now but the clock is ticking more and more games are getting closer to release eaven more startrek games are coming...
Add a 4th Class to the factions; Civilian.
Add in some unique trading options, general commerce, even replace the commodity vendors with players, and while your at it, give them a neato crafting system.
I think it would add a lot to the game.