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i see lots of goodies in crytic store shame its not um part of the game already jesses you guys just want all are money dont you. and expensive too...
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Im not sure what your understanding of expensive is. But in my book the C-store rates seem fairly cheap.
I mean, a business that wants to make money! What is that all about!?! That's almost like... counter intuitive or something!
What an outrage!
WoW would like to have your 25$ for a single item.
Why does it surprise people, that cryptic wants to make some money on some extra stuff... I mean: THey are already adding new content that everyone has access to for free... The few items in the C-Store dosent make a diffrence in game and a just for the enjoyment some of us have... And some of the retail versions even come with a bunch of C-Store points anyways...
I don't see the problem... As a Freelancer I supply my customers with free upgrades for their webpages when I enhance stuff for the sites i've developed.
But I charge big time for new modules I develop... Even if they are just a new way of rotating banners, and my costumers are happy..
Some of us are adults who work for a living. And thus such prices are as you state, very disposable income that comes easily.
Others (like possibly the OP) are still under the age of 16, don't work for a living, and have to deal with the hassles of mom and dad.
They might find cryptic points harder to come by.
/sigh... Not this discussion again please.
You don't need to make use of the C-Store items to enjoy the game.
They're only optional extra's, if you don't like them don't buy them, but don't come complaining about it on the forums when they're reasonably priced.
And duh.. Off course they want more money. You probably have no idea how much it costs to develop and run a mmo. It takes at least 1 year before a mmo gets even close to making a profit.
And they can probably live without a new costume piece or ship model. You don't need any of the extra art. It's not even really content, just art.
My kid has more damn cash in his pocket than I do
Heh. Touche.
Preaching to the choir here. I totally agree with you.
I wasn't defending the OP. Just trying to give a possible explanation as to the root or catalyst of the OP's rant. I don't think it's a reasonable rant. But I do think it might be rooted in lack of available funds for whatever reason.
As for 'it's only fluff artwork', take a look at Klingon uniform choices or even Klingon ship exterior light options (Feds have 4, Klingons have one default). Looks like the art department should be catching up on things that should have been in the game at launch, not padding wallets with C Store 'fluff'.
And how exactly do you suppose they are going to pay for all that art time?
C-store art pays for itself, it doesn't have to come out of somebody else's budget. Providing more free content is harder: there's only so much money to go around from subscriptions, and would you prefer to spend it on bridges and costume pieces, or on new NPCs and mission maps?
They did in fact ask everybody precisely that question a couple of months ago, and appear to be following the response they got. Meanwhile, since C-store art pays for itself, they can keep churning that out regardless - it doesn't take any time or money away from the subscription-funded efforts.
Let's take a closer look at that, like you suggest.
There's currently one default bird of prey stretched out over 5 tiers. That's 5 birds of prey.
The federation has 3 cruisers per tier, 5 tiers, and 2 special T5 skins. That's 17 cruiser skins.
Here's what I need you to find for me, you, and the art department ...
12 MORE Bird of Prey designs.
Links to pictures please.
Your point is only valid if the art team finishes free content and updates earlier than the other departments (i.e. coders), and has 'free time' to make C Store items. Speculating that this is the case is, well, speculation, and can't be a valid basis for a discussion point. 'Pay for the art time'? Are you also assuming that instead of having an actual art staff that works for them full-time, they hire out extra external artists, and pay them by the job, or by the hour?
My point still stands, the artwork for the Klingon side is perhaps 1/3 that of the Federation side, including ships, bridges, uniforms, casual clothing (which doesn't exist), and so on, and so on. Which I guess is fine, if you never roll a Klingon character and are asked to pay C Store points for what is essentially free on the Federation side.
No, you don't get it. Subscription fees provide them with a certain amount of money. From that, they can pay the salary of X staff - they'll be doing continual analysis to work out precisely how many. That money gets distributed between art, writing, map design, coding, and whatever else needs doing.
If they also provide C-store items, those will pay for more staff. They do not detract from the amount of money spent on subscription-funded content. It is not the case, as you imply, that the entire art department works on a single project - for the most part, each artist will be working on something independently from the others, and some of them will be working on free content (like fixing the ship models) while others will be working on C-store content. If they were not producing C-store items, then they would not spend more time on free art - there would be no way to pay them. They'd be reassigned to a different project, or else they'd have to lay off staff.
(They probably don't assign individual artists to work full time on C-store items - they'll divide the budget up so that a given artist might work 30 hours a week on subscription content, and 10 hours a week on C-store content, and the budget will be stated in man-hours rather than headcount - but it works out the same)
oh no not the OP but agree with all the " not this discussion again " alright lets reflog the dead horse ( might be an old irish saying .. PM for translation )
if you look closely at the C store you will see that other than retrain and rename none of the items you are being asked to pay for are game changing . you have pakled klingon and ferengi officers sure but the traits they have can be aquired through the alien character creator system . you have ship skins , emote packs , bridge skins . in short its the same kind of non functional aesthetic stuff that you can perfectly easily play without . and many of us do .
the most expensive thing there . two extra character slots . which cost 500 points , which costs 5 euros and 44 cents . which by the way is 2 euros cheaper than a burger fries and drink at the big clown`s resteraunt ( baloon and toy not included )
and most of those purchases are unlocked for all your characters to buy everything in the c store at this time it would cost a whopping 54 bucks and you`d have 900 points change for new stuff . thats less than a game .. less than say the sims addon packs , than microsoft points to buy DLC for xbox games .. .the list goes on
the main product is STO and the sub ... we are lucky enough to not be gouged by cryptic and atari on these . i do not begrudge them taking the opertunity to make a few bucks on the side with non nessicary content . if they start charging us to do STF`s then complain .. un till then ... Dude !