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Beginners Guide to Ship's Power 2.0

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Part I

I was among the first group of Closed Beta testers so I've got a bit of knowledge I can share about a Ship's power and how to squeeze every megawatt of power from the Warp Core. So this is my Beginner's Guide to Ship Power. I'm not going to cover everything about a Starship in details. I'm going to assume you have a basic familiarity your ship. I'm also going to touch upon certain aspect of ship combat that deal with ship's power.

Section I - The Basics

We don't have any power, Captain. Main and Auxiliary power are offline.

First off a ship's power is the foundation for everything you do on your ship. If you don't have any power, you can do nothing at all. Secondly no matter how many terragigahugeunit-watts of power your Warp Core can provide, it's never enough. So you have to distribute power to the subsystems of your ship depending on need.

All of the systems on a ships are divided into 4 groups of Subsystems: Weapons, Shields, Engine, and Auxiliary Systems. Anything that can do direct damage are classified as weapons. Shields (aka Deflector Shields) are your main protection to prevent damage from Weapons. Engine is basically how fast you can travel and how fast the ship can turn. Auxiliary Systems are everything else. It's the Deflector/Tractor Beam (push/pull/hold ships), Emitters (which can buff/debuff targets in various ways), Sensors (how well you can sense other ships or prevent them from seeing you).

Obviously the more power a subsystem has the better they perform. Weapons will do do more damage. Shield will regenerate faster and resist damage better. Engine allows you to travel faster and turn quicker. Auxiliary allow better Buff/Debuff. (Note: Not all Auxiliary Systems are affected by Auxiliary Power settings. But if your Auxiliary Systems power drops to zero, all Auxiliary Systems will not work. The Seaon 1.2 update has made a lot abilites now dependent on Auxiliary Power. Check your abilites/power infomation in the 'P'ower window to see if they are dependent on Auxiliary Systems power.)

How do I power my ship's systems?

I'm glad you asked. You ship is primarily powered by your ship's Warp Core (you know the matter/anti-matter reactor. No? Sigh. The big glowy thing in engineering.) There isn't any real device or item in the game which is a Warp Core. It's an intrinsic part of your ship.

The Base Total Power of you ship is represented by 200 units. You distribute these 200 units to each Subsystem. The rules you have to follow are as follows. You allocate units in groups of 5. And you must allocate at least 25 units to a subsystem. And you can allocate no more then 100 units to a Subsystem. So you could run all four Subsystems at 50. Or one Subsystem at 100, another at 50 and the other two at 25. Or two subsystems at 75 and there other two at 25. Well you get the picture.

How do I manage my ships power?

Your ship's power management console is located to the right of the throttle bar at the bottom center of the screen. Most of the console is taken up by the power displays for each Subsystem. In order, (in order) the indicators are for Weapons, Shield, Engine and Auxiliary Systems. Each indicator shows what the power allocation is set to. And also how much actual power actually is in each Subsystem. (More on this below)

At the top of the console there are 4 buttons which represent 4 default power allocations schemes/modes: Attack, Defense, Speed, and Balanced. (And from now on I will refer to power distributions as 50/50/50/50 which in order are Weapons, Shields, Engine and Auxiliary). Attack profile is for maximum weapon damage and moderate shield regen (100/50/25/25). Defense is maximum shield regenerate and moderate weapons damage (50/100/25/25). Speed is for maximum speed/turning rate and moderate auxiliary systems (25/25/100/50). Balanced is moderate (aka base) performance for each Subsystem (50/50/50/50).

The power distribution console has 3 different display modes. You select the mode by clicking in the icon that looks like tiled windows. Mode 1 is a numeric display for the power indicators. Mode 2 is a bar graph for the power indicators. Mode 3 is a bar graph display as well. But Mode 3 also allows you to manually tweak the power distribution settings. That means you can create custom Power Profiles

Custom Power Profiles
In display mode 3, you can click and drag the power indicators. The other subsystem indicators will change in response. To lock a power settings for a subsystem. Click on the small locks icon on top of the subsystem power indicator. Don't lock more then 2 otherwise you won't be able to change power allocations. These power settings are temporary until changed. You can to save the Power Profile, click on the left icon below the Profile Selector icons. The circular arrow is the reset button to the restore the default values of the current profile.

Power Transfer Rate
When power levels are changes via power allocations, the power levels don't change instantly. Power Transfer Rate is how fast your actual power levels change when you shift power allocations. The default rate is 5 units per second. Power Transfer Rate can be increased certain ship equipment and via the XXXX Captain skill. In battle being able to shift power allocations quickly can sometimes be crucial in combat. (I.E. Your shields are weakening, and another two Cruisers are bearing down on you. You need to go defensive to build shield strength while your teams mates finish off the current group of ships.)

Section II - How do I squeeze some more power from my Warp Core?

A Starfleet Officer with the right training, the right equipment and/or the ship can get more power of their Warp Core and Subsystems. This means that you can actually go above base power level allocated to a Subsystem. You can even go above the normal maximum allocation level 100.

All of the skill power setting bonuses stack with the Equipment and Ship Bonuses. If you take everything together you can have the following examples. An Escort with a +5 power settings Console can run 120/53/32/32 in Attack profile. A Science with a +5 AUX console ould be running be running 53/100/32/47 in Defense profile or 53/53/53/68 in Balanced Mode. A Cruiser with a set of four different consoles, all of the ship power skills and traists could be running 63/63/63/63 in Balanced. In short, you can be a literal powerhouse if you got for it.

Also there is a cap on the usable about of power. Usable total power on a subsystem is capped at 125. You can boost the power level higher then 125, but only 125 is usable.

Ship Bonuses
As I mentioned the type of ship can have more efficient Subsystems which will affect base power settings. These bonuses vary according to the ship type. But they, in general, fall in line with what the ship type is best at.
Federation Ships:
  • Escorts - +15 Weapons
  • Cruisers - +5 Weapons, +5 Shields, +5 Engines, +5 Auxiliary Systems
  • Science Vessels - +15 Auxiliary Systems
Klingon Ships:
  • Battlecruisers - +10 Weapons, +10 Engines
  • Raiders (Bird of Prey) - +15 Weapons
  • Raptors - +15 Weapons
  • Carriers - +5 Weapons, +5 Auxiliary Systems
  • Orion Cruiser - +5 Weapons, +5 Shields, +5 Engines, +5 Auxiliary Systems
  • Gorn Fleet Support - +15 Auxiliary Systems
  • Nausicaan Siege Destroyer - +10 Weapons, +5 Shields, +5 Engines


Equipment Bonuses
The right equipment can also increase power settings.

Engineering Consoles There are various Engineering Consoles which can add a bonus to one or more individual Subsystems. The consoles go up to +3 at the highest Marks. If you have the Console slots on the ships, you can have multiple consoles of the same type of Console. The Console bonuses do stack with all other power setting bonus.

Ship Batteries and Related Devices A battery is a comsumable device that can be equipped on your ship. (There are also permanent device, like the Red Matter Capacitor, which can add power to two or more subsystems but aren't consumed. These are treated as batteries) The battery will appear as a Power icon on your hot tray and 'P'owers window. When you use a battery, the appropriate subsystem get's a +75 power setting bonus for 3 seconds. The power amount and duration can be improved with the Power Batteries Captain skill.
Efficient Impulse Engine And I would be negligent if I didn't mention the (rare) Efficient Impulse Engine Mk IV. It's one of the possible rewards in the second half of the "City on the Edge of Never" episodic mission. This Impulse engines adds +3.8 power for Weapons, Shields and Auxiliary Systems.

Equipment Sets There are two new Starship equipment sets which give power setting bonuses. I won't go into much detail beyond their power setting bonuses. These equipment sets are different in they give a special bonus for have 2 or more pieces of the set equipped.
Aegis Set The Aegis Set is a 3 piece set that is created via Crafting. The Aegis Hyper Impuse Engine gives at +5 Engine Subsystem power setting bonus.
Borg Assimilated Set The Borg Assimilated is a 4 set that is obtained by completing the PvE mission Assimilated and the Omega Section Vendors stores. Each piece of the set will a +5 power setting Bonus to one of the 4 Subsystems (Weapons, Shields, Engines, Auxiliary Systems).
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  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    Part II

    Skill Bonuses and Traits
    A ships Captain and Bridge Officers with the right training and traits can squeeze more power from the Warp Core and make Subsystems run better. There are Efficiency/Efficient skills and traits which will give power setting bonuses for systems at lower power allocations (i.e. less then power allocation 75). And there are Performance skills which gives a straight power setting bonus to subsystems.

    Section III - Power Related Skills

    Starship Warp Core Efficiency
    Right off there is Starship Starship Warp Core Efficiency. The related traits are the character trait Efficient Captain, the Bridge Officer traiit Efficient and the Joined Trill trait Joined Symbiote. This skill grants power setting bonuses to systems running at low power (i.e. <75). The lesser the power allocation the bigger the bonus will be.

    A handy chart.


    __|_25_|_50_| |_25_|_50_| |__25_|_50_| |__25_|_50_|

    1 | +1 | +0 | | +2 | +1 | | + 3 | +2 | | + 4 | +2 |
    2 | +3 | +1 | | +4 | +2 | | + 5 | +2 | | + 5 | +3 |
    3 | +5 | +2 | | +5 | +2 | | + 7 | +3 | | + 7 | +5 |
    4 | +6 | +3 | | +6 | +3 | | + 8 | +4 | | + 8 | +4 |
    5 | +6 | +3 | | +7 | +3 | | + 9 | +4 | | + 9 | +5 |
    6 | +7 | +3 | | +8 | +4 | | +10 | +5 | | +10 | +5 |
    7 | +8 | +4 | | +9 | +4 | | +10 | +5 | | +10 | +5 |
    8 | +8 | +4 | | +9 | +4 | | +10 | +5 | | +11 | +5 |
    9 | +9 | +4 | | +9 | +4 | | +11 | +5 | | +11 | +6 |


    Due to the lack of formulas for the new skills. I'm using charts to illustrate the numbers.

    The first column is the Warp Core Efficiency skill rank. What follows are pairs of columns for the 25 and 50 power allocations. The first pair of columns is based solely on the base Captain skill. The send pair of columns uses the +7.5 bonus for an Efficient Bridge Officer. The third pair of columns uses the +15 bonus for the Efficient Captain trait. The fourth/last pair of columns is the +7.5 and +15 bonus for an Efficient Bridge Officer and an Efficient Captain.

    The numbers in the columns pairs are the cumulative power setting bonus. So Rank 6 in Warp Core Efficiency for an Captain with the Efficient Captain trait will get a power setting bonus of +9 for power setting 25 or +5 for a power setting of 50.

    Note: The power bonuses progress may see strange and arbitrary. Power bonuses can have factional values (i.e. 2.5). Those factions are added into the values, but are not displayed. The game client displays power settings are integers (not sure if they are truncated or rounded).

    Starship Warp Core Potential Skill

    The Starship Warp Core Potential skill is the second tier of power skills. The related trait this skill is Warp Core Theorist. Warp Core Potential adds a modest power setting bonus to all subsystem. This skills allows power settings to exceed 100. And like other power setting skills they stack with any other bonus.

    A handy chart.
    1 | +1 |
    2 | +2 |
    3 | +3 |
    4 | +3 |
    5 | +4 |
    6 | +4 |
    7 | +4 |
    8 | +5 |
    9 | +5 |


    The first column of this chart is the Warp Core Potential skill rank. The second column is the cumulative power setting bonus for that rank.

    <Subsystem> Performance Skills

    The <Subsystem> Performance skills are quite powerful which is probably why they are Captain and Admiral rank skills. The skills are very expense in terms of skill points. But for the right system and ship, they are priceless.

    These skills grant a flat power setting bonus regardless of the power allocation to the subsystem. These skills in every way act like an Engineering Subsystem Power Consoles. These skills will allow power settings to exceed 100. And like other power setting bonuses they do stack with the rest.

    1 | +02 |
    2 | +04 |
    3 | +06 |
    4 | +07 |
    5 | +08 |
    6 | +09 |
    7 | +09 |
    8 | +10 |
    9 | +10 |

    The first column is the <Subsystem> Performance skill rank. The second column is the the cumulative power setting bonus for each skill rank. As you can see the Performance skills are quite potent.

    Other Miscellaneous Skills

    There are other skills which can temporarily boost ship power levels directly or other ship power skills. I won't go into much detail as there are many of the skills, but I will highlight some of the more common skills.

    Emergency Power To <Subsystem> skills. In addition to other effects, these skills increase the power setting of the subsystem for 30 seconds. You get all of the benefits of the higher power level.

    Note: The Team skills used to provide 30 seconds of various skill bonuses. But with the Season 1.2 update, the duration is how 5 seconds. Five seconds isn't much time for addition power. So I'm dropping the discusion of them my guide.

    Where can I see what my bonuses are?

    Another good question. One thing very nice includes in the UI improvements is that all of of the passive skills and bonuses you character has are now displayed. They are under the Passive tab of the status window for your character ('hit J' -> Select your -> Status tab). This tab shows ALL of you bonuses including all of those power settings bonuses you get from skills. You'll set the power setting bonuses for each subsystem for each captain skill: i.e. Starships Warp Core Training: Weapons, Weapon System Efficiency, Weapon System Performance, etc. And to top it off, each of the bonuses change in real time as you alter you subsystem power allocations.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    Part III

    Section III - Subsystems and Power and You

    Power levels affect the performance of the various subsystems. In general, the higher the power, the better the performance of the system. The general rule of thumb for subsystem power levels is as follows. At power level 25, the system is on, but just barely functional. Power settings 50 is the base performance level of the subsystem (i.e. 1x). Power level of 75 is 2x the base. Power level 100 is 3x the base. And Power level 125 is 4x the base.


    Weapon Subsystem
    Another aspect of Power Transfer Rate is the Weapon subsystem. Energy weapons (i.e. Phaser Array, Dual Beam Arrays, Cannon, etc) draw off of a power capacitor (or energy reservoir) which is also your Weapon Power level. Also the amount of damage your energy weapons do it directly proportional to the current level of Weapon Power. This is a very important part of ship combat management as explained below.

    The size of the Weapons Capacitor is your current Weapon power setting. As energy weapons fire they draw energy from the weapons capacitor. You can fire one energy weapon without any pentalty. For every addition energy weapon you fire, it draws 10 energy (This does vary a bit from weapon to weapon) from your Weapon power. For example, if you have Weapon power setting of 100 and you fire 2 Phaser Arrays, that will draw down you Weapon power to 90. Four Phaser Arrays would draw down Weapon Power to 70.

    Energy Weapon power drain is also very different from other power drains in the game. Weapon power system drained by weapon fire doesn't return at the Power Transfer Rate. The drained power returns instantly after the fire cycle of a weapon completes. I've tested enhancing the Power Transfer Rate via engineering consoles, Captain Skills and Abilities. There is a slight benefit from having some PTR buff. Weapon's firing cycles drain and restore power so rapidly that any help from PTR is greatly diminished even with PTR buffs into the 600+% range. It does help weapon power from being bottomed out by 5 units when firing lots of enegy weapons. But I don't recommend trying to max out Electro-Plasma Systems and slotting lots of RCS Flow Regulator consoles. It wll not be worth the effots. There are many other consoles you can put into those Engineering Console slots.

    Shields Subsystem

    Your Deflector Shields (or just Shields) are your primary defence again enemy weapon fire. In general, shields have two basic attributes. First is Capacity. That is the amount of damage that the Shield can absorb. Each shot diminishes the shield's damage capacity. When a shield facing capacity is depleted, your ship's hull is now open to direct weapon damage. The second attribute is Regeneration Rate. This is the rate at shield your shield's damage capacity is replenished.

    What does Ships power have to do with shields? Well other than being on, The shield Subsystem power level affects the Shield's Regeneration Rate. At power level 25, the shields are up and provide protection. But there is zero shield regeneration. At power level 50, the shields have their base regeneration rate. At power level 75, the shields have 2x the regeneration rate, and so forth accord to the general rules given above.

    A recent change is that shields also have a certain amount of damage resistance vs damage to the shields. This reduces the amount of damage done to the shield itself (i.e it's Capacity as discussed above). This shield damage resistance does not reduce the amount of damage done to the hull. The amount of damage resistance is directly proportional to the Shield Power Level. The formula as stated by the devs is: Power level / 357.12. So damage resistance is a maximum of 35% at level 125.

    Also note that a lot of the shield buffing powers also add a certain amount of shield damage resistance as well. Shield damage resistance doesn't stack like hull damage resistance. Shield damage resistance buffs are multiplicative. Each shield resistance ability is a scalar that is multiplied against the incoming damage. So 2 abilities that gives 25% resistance would be DMG * (1 - .25) * (1 - .25) = 0.75 * 0.75 = DMG * .75 * .75. Shield damage resistance has a hard cap of 75%.

    Engine Subsystem

    Power for the engine subsystem is simple. The higher the engine power level the faster your max speed is at full throttle. And the better your ship's turning rate. One combat aspect that player don't generally know about is Defence. Going faster means you are harder to hit. At Impulse Factor 20, your ship have 25% Defence from speed. The maximum amount of defence from speed tops out at 50% at roughly Impulse Factor 35.

    Note: With zero engine power, your ship is quite literally a sitting target. You can't move, you can't turn except at a snail's pace and you have a -15% Defense. Like I said a sitting duck. Once nice Impulse Engine attribute is [Aux]. Aux allows your ship to move at 1/4 speed even if Engine Power or Impulse Engine is disabled.
    Full Impulse
    Full Impulse is a special throttle mode which gives a massive boost to sublight speed. Full Impulse diverts all ship's power to the Engine Subsystem. Your power settings go to 5/5/100/5. When you exit Full Impulse, your Subsystems power levels have to build back up to their nominal levels at the Power Transfer Rate. At the default Power Transfer Rate, it will take 24 second for a subsystem to build from power level 5 to power level 125

    Something to bear in mind. If you are a run and gun type that Full Impulse's into weapon range and open's fire, you aren't going to be very effective. Your Energy Weapons and Shields are going to be barely functional at power level 5. You effectively are shining a flashlight on the target and your Shields are paper thin with no regneration.

    Auxiliary Systems

    Auxiliary Systems are basically everything else. But not everything is affect by the Auxiliary System power level. Many Science Officers abilities are affected by Auxiliary Power level. For example, the amount of shield power that is drain buy Tachyon Beam ability is proportional to the Auxiliary Systems power level. Auxiliary power also affects certain Engineering abilities, as well, including ships hull repair. In short the higher Auxiliary power the better the skills are or the faster things happen. Don't neglect your Auxiliary Systems, they may just save your ship and crew when you least expect it.

    Most of the healing abilities (hull and shield) are dependent on Aux power. Auxiliary Systems power has become just as important as other power levels. And the scaling factor has changed for from the previous builds. Auxiliary Systems ship power efficacy (strength) of skills is a linear scale at 100% at power level 100 down to 50% at power level 25. And pushing Auxiliary Systems does make the abilities stronger than normal.

    Another major system tied into Auxiliary Power Level are Klingon ships which have Hanger Bays. Hanger bays require Auxiliary Power to launch fighters (and other things). The vessel recharge times are tied to Auxiliary Power level as well. The old hanger recharge times are based on have Auxiliary Power at 100. Auxiliary Power of 115 shaves approx 8% off of total recharge times. Auxiliary Power of 25 increases Recharge times by one third (i.e. +1/3).

    Section IV - What does it all mean?

    Well I saw right off that a ship's power was very important. And I'm a mini-maxer at heart. So it was natural I drifted towards maximizing ship power. My first character that I creating during head start is a Tactical Captain now a Rear Admiral/5 in a Reconnaissance Science Vessel. I invested very heavily in all of the ship power skills, and a couple key Engineering Consoles (EPS Flow Relay and +6 Shield Subsyatem power). But I have not invested in the Auxiliary Systems Performance skill. This what you can achieve if you really try:


    Attack.....(100/50/25/25).->.114/80/53/53
    Defense....(50/100/25/25).->.74/120/53/58
    Speed......(25/25/100/50).->.54/64/109/74
    Balanced...(50/50/50/50)..->.76/80/69/74
    Custom.....(30/35/30/100).->.61/70/59/115


    Note: Custom (Balance) is because I'm a Science ship

    As you can plainly see, my ship's performance levels in any mode is 2 or 3 times better than a base ship.

    Section V

    Extras
    PatricianVetinari has a most excellent Ship Power Calculator. It's a spread sheet that will allow you to play "What if...?". You can tweak, prod and poke at things to get a feeling of how every thing interacts. The more optimum power settings are sometimes not the most obvious settings.

    Updates:

    And this is version 2.0 of my guide. There were some a few errors on my part in the first guide. And I'm going to include some equations that others on the forums have figured out. Thanks to Tiran_Diaz and Binkenstein. Maths and I just don't mix unless I put on my thinking cap.

    Version 3.0 of my guide incorporates all of the new changes from the Season 1.2 update. There are a bunch of changes to abilites and ship power bonuses.

    Version 3.1 Speeling Error

    Version 3.2 Added Section V, Extras with PatricianVetinari's Ship Power Calculator. And the extra power settings for each power allocation in Section IV.

    Version 3.3 More speeling error fixed. And updates Corrected Shield Damage Resistance explanation and added changes to Shield for Season 2.0 update.

    Version 3.4 Reformatted the Ship Types Power Bonus section. Added the 3 new Klingon ships. Moved guide updates log to end of guide.

    Version 3.5 More spelling, equipment changes, and shield changes.

    Version 4.0 Updated skills sections for space skills revamped in the Season 5 game update. With more spelling and syntax errors fixes.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    Great guide. Thanks for sharing your knowledge.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    Nicely written, thought i would point ou that batteries offer a Three (3) second boost in power setting not a 30 second boost tho.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    gosso1979 wrote:
    Nicely written, thought i would point ou that batteries offer a Three (3) second boost in power setting not a 30 second boost tho.

    Opps. Fixed.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    I can't change the thread title, but my guide Beginner's Guide to Ship's Power is now updated for the Season 1.2 updates. The biggest changes to ship types power setting bonuses. I've added the Klingon ship types as well. The other big change is the weapon power drain mechanics, and changes to power flow rate and EPS Flow Regulator console changes.

    Enjoy!
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    Argh. I always forget something. Part II has been updated with the new passive skills/bonus tab in the character status window. All of the power setting bonuses are shown individually. This new version is 3.1.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    Awesome guide!

    Thank god I noticed it.
    I´m currently in the middle of Commander and totally ignored those very important Efficiency skills.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    Excellent Guide Fuzun! Lots of great information here. For those that get lost in the numbers/formula, I made a spreadsheet into which any monkey with a keyboard (myself included :cool:) can put your basic information (traits, BO, skills, ship type, equipment, etc.) and it will automatically show you what your power levels are/can be. I have a thread for it and include a basic primer on Ship's Power, but your Guide is significantly more detailed. I took the liberty of dropping a link to your thread in mine. They go hand-in-hand.

    With your Power knowledge I would really respect your input/thoughts on my calculator, and invite you to take a look.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    I thought that Aux power controlled turn rate and not engine power? Or was this changed in 2.1.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    Moab-Remus wrote:
    I thought that Aux power controlled turn rate and not engine power? Or was this changed in 2.1.
    This has been effective since Season 1.1 -
    •Power Level Changes: Turn rate improvement has been moved from the auxiliary power level to the engine power level.

    Relase Notes, April 29, 2010, post 3. :)
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    Great Guide! thanks for the time and effort. Lots of great info.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    Guide has been updated to version 3.2 with PatricianVetinari Shp Power Calculator and the belated extra power settings from my example ships in Section Iv.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    A great guide! Thanks for sharing your research with us.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    Great job on your guide. I'm going to have to make a point of choosing the impulse engine reward for my second character when I get to that particular mission.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    I've made another minor pass for spelling errors, corrected wrong information about Shield Damage Resistance and add Shields changes coming in the Season 2.0 updates.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    Rediscovered this guide recently - great job! Worth a friendly bump :D
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    this is just amazing a very detailed! ive bookmarked this for easy referance. Thanks a lot dude :D
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    this is just amazing a very detailed! ive bookmarked this for easy referance. Thanks a lot dude :D

    You're welcome. I'm glad you found it helpful.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    I like the guide but I'm still a little sketchy on how skills affect powers, most specifically, if it is worth it in terms of skill point costs to max the power skills to nine. Additionally, given that each of the classes give a bonus to power levels, and power seemingly "maxes" at 125; for certain classes are there skills you shouldn't max out? You don't spend all your points there b/c the extra power generated by the interaction of skill and class bonus are lost in the 125+ zone.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    jennjahn wrote: »
    I like the guide but I'm still a little sketchy on how skills affect powers, most specifically, if it is worth it in terms of skill point costs to max the power skills to nine. Additionally, given that each of the classes give a bonus to power levels, and power seemingly "maxes" at 125; for certain classes are there skills you shouldn't max out? You don't spend all your points there b/c the extra power generated by the interaction of skill and class bonus are lost in the 125+ zone.
    I'm sort of a newb at this too, and I'm not sure I'm reading the numbers right, but I'll list the "easy" breakdowns as I understand them.

    Traits and consoles that give a bonus to Warp Core Training or Efficiency skills yield +1.25 power per +5 bonus at power level 25, and +0.625 power per +5 bonus at power level 50. These are cumulative, with the sum apparently rounded off to the nearest integer.

    The actual skills are a bit tricky. I set my Warp Core Training skill to at least 6, which yields an even 2 power at power level 50, or 4 power at power level 25. The Efficiency skills have two 'natural' cut-offs, the first at skill 5 (for 3 power at power level 50 or 6 at 25), the second at 8 (yielding 4 power at level 50, or 8 at 25). You can go higher, but the major benefit of doing so is to max out skills. Near as I can tell, you'll just eek out one more point of power at best.

    Performance skills give a bonus that's independent of power level. I'll list the bonuses here as S:P pairs, where S is skill level and P is power yield:
    1:2, 2:3, 3:5, 4:6, 5:7, 6:8, 7:8, 8:9, 9:10

    Finally, there are consoles that offer bonuses to power setting, and as far as I know they mean what they say. So if you have a "+4 engine setting" console, it adds 4 power to engines.

    Hope this helps. Again, I'm not entirely sure I understand it all, so please offer corrections as necessary :o
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    As to whether it's worth it to make out power skills is not an easy question to answer. You undoubtedly getg benefits from increasing subsystem power. There are number factors which will play into the question. But there are some general rules of thumb you can follow.

    If you are going to be running a subsystem at power setting 75 or higher, you will get no bonus for Warp Core Training nor Efficient <Subsystem> skills. And balance that out with you can't have more then 2 subsystems at 75 or higher. That means 2 other subsystem will benefit from Warp Core Training and Efficient <Subsystem> skills.

    For me it's worth it to make out the rank of the skills because I mini-max on ships power on most of my characters. I spends a lot of skills points on those skills. If yo u want to maximimze your skills point usage use the Ship Power Calculate spreadsheet I link to in my guide. Play with the skill ranks. If you don't have a lot of trait bonuses, it's not worth it to make out Warp Core Train or Efficient <Subsystem> skills.

    Ultimately the decision is up to you. Look at the benefits is increased power power levels give. Decided if those benefists are important to your are not for your character. If it's important then consider spending skills points to increase the rank of the power skills. But also look at the other ways to increase power levels BO abilities, ship equipment (ie. Efficient Impulse Engine) and consoles.

    I will give one example of my making a power decision on a character. On my Eng/Cruiser captain, I was running armor consoles for the Engineering Consoles. It was OK and the shiop did OK. On Tribble, I didn't a testing build to look at the Nomad Ship model changes. On a whim, I gought and power Engine Consoles rather then armor consoles. While testing the ships in combat, those Engine Consoles made a huge different in my Star Cruiser's turn rate. that got me to investigating thngs to increase my turn rate (This was during the seaon 1.2 abilitiy changes And turning rate moved from Aux to Engine Power.). I finally settles on 2 Engine Consoles and an RCS Console. I added the Aux Power to Dampener. And now my Star Cruiser is highly manuverable. I can make anything ships of an Escort/BoP in turn rates even fast Frigates running Evasive Maneuvers. And my ship can haul like crazy at combat speeds as well.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    fuzun wrote: »
    ...If yo u want to maximimze your skills point usage use the Ship Power Calculate spreadsheet I link to in my guide. Play with the skill ranks...
    Hey, thanks for the plug fuzun. :D

    How much you invest in your power skills will depend greatly on your goals and play style. But if you plan it properly, you can MinMax out a nice amount of extra power... Myself for example, run with 125/100, 72/50, 50/25, 55/25. That's a 102 point bonus!

    The maths can get kind of crazy, which is why I built the Calculator fuzun is talking about. Give it a try and let me know what you think.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    Give it a try and let me know what you think.


    So far I am, and its pretty nice. Right now I'm staiuring down how to give myself Max(ish) weapons, Min engines then keep decently high numbers on Aux while not turning my sheilds into a joke.


    A suggestion, you might consider putting a copy on google docs so people can toy with it online. And one other suggestion, what might be nice to incorporate, is a power level to skill points cost calculation.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    jennjahn wrote: »
    ...A suggestion, you might consider putting a copy on google docs so people can toy with it online. And one other suggestion, what might be nice to incorporate, is a power level to skill points cost calculation.
    I address Google Docs in posts 59 & 84 of my thread.

    I like your power level/skill point cost ration idea. Hmm... Let me look into it further.

    And BTW, I don't want to get too far off topic discussing my Calc in this thread, it would be best to move this conversation over to that thread where I'd appreciate if you submit your suggestion. :D
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    Guide has been updated to version 3.4.
    • Reformatted the Ships Power Bonus section.
    • Added the 3 new Klingon ships to ship power section: Orion Patrol Cruiser, B'Rel Refit and Gorn Fleet Support
    • Moved update log to end of the guide.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    A very belated update my ship power guide. There's been a number of changes in the game which affect ship's power.

    Updates for 3.5:
    • more spelling corrections
    • Added Siege Destroyer to ship section
    • Update Science Vessels power setting bonus
    • Added section on Carrier Hanger Efficieny
    • Update section on Efficient Impulse Engine
    • Added section on Aegis and Borg Assimilated sets.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    Very nice, Fuzun!
    Would you make a copy of this thread for the Klingon Fleetyard forums as well, please? I could do it, but I would prefer to have your name stickied - you did all the work. :)
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    Thanks for this eye-opening guide. It totally changes some of my strategies and settings.

    Great Job!
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited December 2011
    I have a question regarding Performance skillls. For example if I have 9 ranks (the maximum) on Shield Performance but I also have a console which is +5 shield performance. Would it stack or would I get no additional benefit as shield performance is already maxed out. In such a case, would it be better for me to only invest in 4 ranks on shield performance skill and use the console to get 9 ranks of shield performance?
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