What most people dont realize, and this includes you, is that MMOs need serious power. Whether they are running in a farm with blade servers, virtualized, or even complete physical systems, the amount of data that needs to be loaded up and validated alone could take hours. Its not as simple as loading of COD:MW2 on your computer in 5 minutes, the game servers have to load every entity in the game, which also may require validation, and keep track of it.
What most people don't realise and this include YOU, is that MMOs are run on a budget. That budget is a LOT less than a billing system for a large corporate entity. Which means all of the cool TRIBBLE you see in business (H.P.H.A, hot n' cold standby's, mirrored SAN's as examples) is throughly ignored once beyond the initial "lets do an MMO" stage of planning and the realisation of how friggin much that stuff costs appears.
Yes it can take several hours, even DAYS to restore a cluster (depending on how many TB of data its running with) but that's why you have the failover system. So you can spend the time keeping going.
MMO's don't have customer facing SLA's (i.e. us lot).
Perhaps they should, but that's another debate I think.
Would you like to know something about Spock?
Really? Ok then - it might take me a while to type...
Spock was commissioned as a Starfleet officer in the early 2250s with the serial number S 179-276 SP, and held an A7 computer expert classification. By 2254, he was assigned to the USS Enterprise. The starship and her namesake were his home for nearly forty years, until 2293. (TOS: "Court Martial", "The Ultimate Computer", "The Cage"; Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country)
As a science officer under the command of Captain Christopher Pike, Spock was wounded in the leg when Pike's landing party was attacked on Rigel VII in 2254. As the ship proceeded to the Vega colony for medical care, a radio wave distress call forced Pike to divert the ship to Talos IV. Still limping, Spock joined a landing party that transported to the barren surface of the planet, where Pike was captured by Talosians; he was the first of the ship's crew to realize that the Talosians had powerful illusory abilities. Spock's final report, along with Pike's, recommended a ban on visitation to the planet. The judgment was endorsed by Starfleet's General Order 7. (TOS: "The Cage", "The Menagerie, Part I", "The Menagerie, Part II")
In the alternate reality, Spock began programming the Kobayashi Maru scenario in 2254. The writers stated on Star Trek's audio commentary that they felt this event overlapped with the prime reality and that Kirk also met Spock at a hearing after he cheated on the test.
On Earth briefly in 2261, Spock met Leila Kalomi. Although she declared a love for Spock, his Vulcan control prevented him from showing any emotion in return. (TOS: "This Side of Paradise")
Spock's service under Pike (eleven years, four months, and five days) inspired considerable respect and loyalty from the young officer. In 2267, Spock risked his life and career for the sake of his former captain. (TOS: "The Cage", "The Menagerie, Part I", "The Menagerie, Part II")
Spock and Kirk in 2265Spock examined the tapes of an earlier ship, the SS Valiant, that had encountered the same barrier and was destroyed. As Mitchell's powers increased geometrically, Spock believed he had become extremely dangerous and feared that he would destroy the ship, and advised Kirk to either strand Mitchell on the uninhabited, desolate world of Delta Vega in order to isolate him from galactic civilization, or kill Mitchell before it was too late. Kirk hesitated, and initially attempted the former, but the scope of Spock's concerns were eventually borne out, and Kirk was forced to kill Mitchell. (TOS: "Where No Man Has Gone Before")
[edit] 2266Following Mitchell's death, Kirk acknowledged Spock as his first officer. (TOS: "The Corbomite Maneuver")
The Enterprise repelled the first Romulan incursion of Federation space in over a century on stardate 1709.2. Spock and the bridge crew became the first Starfleet officers to make visual contact with Romulans, who finally revealed their Vulcan-like appearance to Starfleet. Lieutenant Stiles briefly suspected Spock of being a Romulan agent until Spock saved his life in the course of battle. (TOS: "Balance of Terror")
[edit] 2267Spock kidnapped Fleet Captain Christopher Pike, his former commander, and hijacked the Enterprise. Pike had been crippled when a baffle plate ruptured during an inspection of an old Class J starship and was confined to a wheelchair, unable to speak. Spock wanted to return him to Talos IV, where they had visited years earlier; he wished to return Pike to the Talosians there so he could enjoy the rest of his life in an illusory reality and would not have to continue enduring his disability. After a lengthy inquiry into the matter, with images provided by the Talosians, Kirk allowed Pike to beam down and all charges against Spock were dropped by Commodore Jose I. Mendez. (TOS: "The Menagerie, Part I", "The Menagerie, Part II")
While commanding an away mission aboard the Galileo on stardate 2821.5, the shuttlecraft crashed on the surface of Taurus II, a planet inhabited by giant hostile creatures. Two crewmembers were killed while the shuttle was stranded but, with the aid of Lieutenant Commander Montgomery Scott, Spock was eventually able to launch the shuttle. Knowing that it could not break free of the orbit of the planet, he ignited the shuttlecraft's remaining fuel which acted as a flare; the Enterprise was alerted by this and rescued the team. (TOS: "The Galileo Seven")
After being thrown back in time to Earth of 1969 and interacting with that planet's US Air Force, Spock was able to recreate a time warp with a slingshot maneuver around the sun. (TOS: "Tomorrow is Yesterday")
Spock being questioned at Kirk's trial in 2267Later, when Kirk was court-martialed for causing the death of Lieutenant Commander Ben Finney, Spock proved that the Enterprise's computer tapes had been altered by Finney to frame Kirk. (TOS: "Court Martial")
Spock, along with Kirk, helped disable a computer that controlled the lives of a civilization on Beta III and allowed no free thought or creative thinking. (TOS: "The Return of the Archons")
Spock helped Kirk to retake the Enterprise after Khan Noonien Singh, a 20th century Augment dictator whom the Enterprise's crew had found in stasis, commandeered the starship. Spock flooded the ship with gas, disabling Khan and his followers. (TOS: "Space Seed")
On stardate 3192.1, Spock and Kirk were taken prisoners on Eminiar VII, which had been at war for over five hundred years with the planet Vendikar. The war was, at this time, being fought by computers so that the two worlds were not destroyed by the atrocities of warfare, thus preserving their civilizations. Whenever a hit was scored by the computer, the affected citizens would be sent into a disintegration chamber and vaporized. When the Enterprise entered orbit around Eminiar VII, it became a legitimate target for Vendikar. The Enterprise was deemed destroyed by a tricobalt satellite explosion; as a result, the crew was expected to report to the disintegration stations. Kirk and Spock were held prisoner to ensure compliance, but they eventually escaped and destroyed the computers on Eminiar VII. With the threat of a real war looming over the inhabitants of both planets, Spock and Kirk sought to negotiate a peace between Eminiar VII and Vendikar. (TOS: "A Taste of Armageddon")
Later, on the mining planet Janus VI, an unknown creature was killing miners there. After locating the creature, Spock mind-melded with it; he discovered that the creature was called a Horta and determined it had only been attempting to protect its young by killing the miners, who were unintentionally killing the Horta's offspring by destroying silicon nodules which were really the creature's eggs. Spock negotiated a pact between the Horta and the miners: The miners would leave the eggs alone and the Horta, in turn, would help the miners locate valuable minerals. (TOS: "The Devil in the Dark")
Spock is forced to use a destructive measure in order to protect the FederationSpock and Kirk later became trapped on Organia, a planet of medieval culture. Organia was being threatened by the Klingon Empire, who wanted to use it as a base in attacking the Federation. The Organian council refused the Federation's help, and after the Klingons invaded and took control of Organia, Kirk and Spock had civilian identities imposed on them, with Spock being given the identity of a merchant. They then became involved in sabotage. After they were captured by the Klingons, Spock and Kirk were freed by the Organians. Just as war was about to break out, the Organians revealed themselves to be powerful energy beings, once humanoid but now evolved. They neutralized the weapons of both sides and stopped the war. (TOS: "Errand of Mercy")
On stardate 3134.0, Spock and Kirk traveled back in time using the Guardian of Forever to retrieve Dr. Leonard McCoy, who had somehow changed history by entering the time portal. Spock discovered that history was changed because McCoy had saved the life of Edith Keeler, a social worker who, in the altered timeline, was destined to lead a pacifist movement that delayed the United States of America' entry into World War II, thus allowing Adolf Hitler to win the war. The only way to restore the timeline was to let Keeler die in an auto accident from which she had been saved by intervention from McCoy. Spock persuaded Kirk to stop McCoy from saving Keeler, whose death restored the timeline. (TOS: "The City on the Edge of Forever")
A neural parasite attacking SpockNear the end of the year, Spock was attacked by a neural parasite that had destroyed a colony on the planet Deneva. He submitted to an experiment that destroyed the creature inside him but also left him blind. However, the blindness was only temporary, as it was revealed that Vulcans have two sets of eyelids. (TOS: "Operation -- Annihilate!")
In late 2267, the Enterprise encountered a probe called Nomad that had destroyed multiple star systems and their inhabitants. Spock mind-melded with the probe and discovered that it was an old Earth probe that had been tasked with seeking out new life. It had somehow been damaged in space, and had merged with an alien probe whose mission had been to sterilize soil. Nomad was now under the false impression that its mission was to sterilize anything that was not "perfect." Kirk was able to destroy the probe by using its own logic against it. (TOS: "The Changeling")
On stardate 3219.8, a shuttlecraft carrying Spock, Kirk, and Federation diplomat Nancy Hedford was captured by an alien cloud creature and taken to a deserted planet. On the planet's surface, they found Zefram Cochrane, the inventor of Earth's warp drive, who was believed to have died decades ago. The cloud creature, called the "Companion" by Cochrane, had discovered him and managed to keep him alive and young. The creature had brought the three Starfleet officers to be companions for Cochrane. When Spock tried to repair the shuttlecraft, the Companion stopped him. The situation was resolved when Hedford, dying from an incurable disease, was joined with the Companion, which cured her and remained in her body. Hedford remained on the planet as a companion for Cochrane, whom she fell in love with. (TOS: "Metamorphosis")
The sad thing is the rate the pages on this thread are increasing and with such long posts like that (which i havent bothered 2 read, btw) your tremendous effort into education ppl could have gone down the drain.
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lol @ Star Trek Offline.
Funny, but a lil sad that it's kinda true.
Oh well. Good luck with the page count, U guys
See U all in game when it comes back up :cool:
If I'd known the game was going to be down this long I'd have suggested people posted their homework and we could help them out. Either that or post up their university notes and we could all get some edumacation.
Peanuts originated in South America, probably in Brazil and Peru. They were grown as far north as Mexico by the time the Spanish began their exploration of the New World. When the explorers returned to Spain, they brought peanuts with them. Later, traders were responsible for spreading peanuts to Africa and Asia.
Records show that in the 1800's peanuts were grown commercially in South Carolina and used for oil, food and a cocoa substitute. However, peanuts were regarded as food for livestock and the poor. They also were difficult to grow and harvest, so they were not widely grown in the United States.
The first notable increase in USA peanut consumption came in 1860 with the outbreak of the Civil War. Soldiers on both sides turned to peanuts for food. They took their taste for peanuts home with them and peanuts were sold freshly roasted by street vendors and at baseball games and circuses. While peanut production rose during this time, peanuts were still harvested by hand, leaving stems and trash in the peanuts. Thus, poor quality and lack of uniformity kept down the demand for peanuts.
Around 1900, labor-saving equipment was invented for planting, cultivating, harvesting and picking peanuts from the plants, as well as for shelling and cleaning the kernels. With these mechanical aids, peanuts rapidly came into demand for oil, roasted and salted nuts, peanut butter and candy.
In 1903, George Washington Carver began his research at Tuskegee Institute. While peanut butter had been developed by then, Carver developed more than 300 other uses for peanuts and improved peanut horticulture so much that he is considered by many to be the "father of the peanut industry." The botanist recognized the value of peanuts as a cash crop and proposed that peanuts be planted as a rotation crop in the Southeast cotton-growing areas where the boll weevil insect threatened the region's agricultural base.
Today, peanuts contribute more than four billion dollars to the U.S. economy each year. Americans eat more than
600 million pounds of peanuts and about 700 million pounds of peanut butter each year.
Sorry guys I think it's all my fault. I mean I was petting my tribble and then 'poof'. Maybe it suddenly reproduced so much that it killed the server. :eek:
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I missed it. Was he speaking of worshiping the great and omnipotent Flying Spaghetti Monster? Basking in his noodly goodness?
CONVERT!!!
What most people don't realise and this include YOU, is that MMOs are run on a budget. That budget is a LOT less than a billing system for a large corporate entity. Which means all of the cool TRIBBLE you see in business (H.P.H.A, hot n' cold standby's, mirrored SAN's as examples) is throughly ignored once beyond the initial "lets do an MMO" stage of planning and the realisation of how friggin much that stuff costs appears.
Yes it can take several hours, even DAYS to restore a cluster (depending on how many TB of data its running with) but that's why you have the failover system. So you can spend the time keeping going.
MMO's don't have customer facing SLA's (i.e. us lot).
Perhaps they should, but that's another debate I think.
The sad thing is the rate the pages on this thread are increasing and with such long posts like that (which i havent bothered 2 read, btw) your tremendous effort into education ppl could have gone down the drain.
AAAAAAAARRRRRRGGGGGGHHHHHHH yet another doofus chimes in compensation for something they didn't PAY for.
I would really like to play right now, but this thread is acutally somewhat entertaining.
Hey post #1701!
Thats down to
Can I log into another one? I'm not picky.
"just because you can post doesn't mean you should"
Cry Cry Cry
And soon here is how we'll feel when the servers are back up:
Happy Happy Joy Joy Joy
Unexpected Uptime.
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Funny, but a lil sad that it's kinda true.
Oh well. Good luck with the page count, U guys
See U all in game when it comes back up :cool:
**puts 2 pennies on the table**
Go home...
.:)
Peanuts originated in South America, probably in Brazil and Peru. They were grown as far north as Mexico by the time the Spanish began their exploration of the New World. When the explorers returned to Spain, they brought peanuts with them. Later, traders were responsible for spreading peanuts to Africa and Asia.
Records show that in the 1800's peanuts were grown commercially in South Carolina and used for oil, food and a cocoa substitute. However, peanuts were regarded as food for livestock and the poor. They also were difficult to grow and harvest, so they were not widely grown in the United States.
The first notable increase in USA peanut consumption came in 1860 with the outbreak of the Civil War. Soldiers on both sides turned to peanuts for food. They took their taste for peanuts home with them and peanuts were sold freshly roasted by street vendors and at baseball games and circuses. While peanut production rose during this time, peanuts were still harvested by hand, leaving stems and trash in the peanuts. Thus, poor quality and lack of uniformity kept down the demand for peanuts.
Around 1900, labor-saving equipment was invented for planting, cultivating, harvesting and picking peanuts from the plants, as well as for shelling and cleaning the kernels. With these mechanical aids, peanuts rapidly came into demand for oil, roasted and salted nuts, peanut butter and candy.
In 1903, George Washington Carver began his research at Tuskegee Institute. While peanut butter had been developed by then, Carver developed more than 300 other uses for peanuts and improved peanut horticulture so much that he is considered by many to be the "father of the peanut industry." The botanist recognized the value of peanuts as a cash crop and proposed that peanuts be planted as a rotation crop in the Southeast cotton-growing areas where the boll weevil insect threatened the region's agricultural base.
Today, peanuts contribute more than four billion dollars to the U.S. economy each year. Americans eat more than
600 million pounds of peanuts and about 700 million pounds of peanut butter each year.
YES ITS ALL YOUR FAULT!!! Tribble lover!
PM me if you said yes to the first part.
Same....u in cali? wanna meet up an match a few? lolz
HAHA! The most randomly funny thing I have read in a long time!