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Besides for the inevitable "rubber banding" going on (which I understand entirely), the game runs like absolute TRIBBLE. My machine destroys the recommended system requirements for this game, so I know it's not my PC.

The game has been pretty fun thus far, but by release I was hoping that it would be optimized. Doesn't look like that's going to happen. There also seems to be a major input lag regarding movement (WASD) and camera rotation.
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  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Runs perfectly well for me. And on my wife's PC when she plays.

    Whilst I hope you get the problem sorted I very much doubt it's soley the game's 'fault. Saying it runs badly or is not optimised just because you have a problem is a pretty broad generalisation.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    sorry to disapoint you the game runs also great here and on my wife's pc also
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    We clearly have different views of what runs well and what doesn't, so we are not on the same page.


    edit: Looks like Beraskus is having the same deal.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Obviously not. We are clearly all just delusional. Thank Odin for you clear viewed insight.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    The game runs better on my machine now than during OB so i'm guessing the problem lies at your end. Try the tech support forum.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    NVIDIA Card?

    Roll back to 190.62...
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Ironfungus wrote: »
    We clearly have different views of what runs well and what doesn't, so we are not on the same page.

    Not sure how you know your views are clearly different from what they stated but regardless the game actually runs exceptionally well considering its right after beta. Every mmo I have ever played (which is many) goes through growing pains on optimization. it's the nature of the beast. Hopefully it gets running as good as you would like on your system. Not sure why your having those issues but hopefully you get it resolved.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Ironfungus wrote: »
    Besides for the inevitable "rubber banding" going on (which I understand entirely), the game runs like absolute TRIBBLE. My machine destroys the recommended system requirements for this game, so I know it's not my PC.

    The game has been pretty fun thus far, but by release I was hoping that it would be optimized. Doesn't look like that's going to happen. There also seems to be a major input lag regarding movement (WASD) and camera rotation.

    well, it runs fine for me.
    you know you can TRIBBLE up a system, even tho your "stats" meet the requirements?

    imo the movements have been increased by far compared to the beta, it' much more fluent than before
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Post videos of Star Trek Online including your frames per second, and then we'll discuss if the problem lies on my end or not. Again, we are not on the same page.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Ironfungus wrote: »
    Besides for the inevitable "rubber banding" going on (which I understand entirely), the game runs like absolute TRIBBLE. My machine destroys the recommended system requirements for this game, so I know it's not my PC.

    The game has been pretty fun thus far, but by release I was hoping that it would be optimized. Doesn't look like that's going to happen. There also seems to be a major input lag regarding movement (WASD) and camera rotation.

    ya, its running perfectly on my computer. its an issue on your end based on the massive amounts of replies
    Ironfungus wrote: »
    Post videos of Star Trek Online including your frames per second, and then we'll discuss if the problem lies on my end or not. Again, we are not on the same page.

    and I why do I need to post a video to prove that its running perfectly? 60 fps.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Ironfungus wrote: »
    Besides for the inevitable "rubber banding" going on (which I understand entirely), the game runs like absolute TRIBBLE. My machine destroys the recommended system requirements for this game, so I know it's not my PC.

    The game has been pretty fun thus far, but by release I was hoping that it would be optimized. Doesn't look like that's going to happen. There also seems to be a major input lag regarding movement (WASD) and camera rotation.

    Probably time to upgrade that 486 then eh?
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Narakhi wrote:
    Probably time to upgrade that 486 then eh?

    rofl.

    As far as tech issues go, sluggish controls whatever. No matter how good the system is that you are playing on it is always possible to TRIBBLE something up. Without even knowing it.

    As far as the game goes......it runs perfectly!
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Ironfungus wrote: »
    Post videos of Star Trek Online including your frames per second, and then we'll discuss if the problem lies on my end or not. Again, we are not on the same page.

    What? lol.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Graphics: NVIDIA GeForce GTS 250 (512mb)
    Memory: 3070MB (800mhz)
    Processor: Intel E8400 @ 3.00GHz
    OS: Windows XP, 32-bit Home Edition.

    Graphics drivers are up to date, and there's nothing wrong with my PC. No other game gives me TRIBBLE performance like this game does.

    Also,

    Low FPS

    Lag Issues

    and

    FPS in Star Trek Online.


    Back when City of Heroes first came out, there was a problem very much like this going on. It took them a while but now the game is fine. I'm guessing it's the same deal, but they could have worked on optimization before releasing the game. Anything else is just plain lazy.

    For the people in this thread going on about their perfect frame rate, post videos or it didn't happen. It's not a problem on my end, for I just recently wiped my machine so it's impossible to have "screwed it up". This problem is very common in new MMORPGs, so I have come to expect it until they figure out how to optimize it.


    "It's just the game, wait for some patches and hopefully the performance issues will be sorted out. Also, try posting on the forums, see if you'll get any similar experiences from others, or help from the devs."
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    i got the 1gig version of the same card you have got, plus a tripple core phemon 2.3 but im running win7 64with 4 gig of ram and i dont get no problems with frame loss the only thing i can recomend is that you turn off dynamic lighting and shadows its meant to be a real card killer in terms of fps.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Awarkle wrote: »
    i got the 1gig version of the same card you have got, plus a tripple core phemon 2.3 but im running win7 64with 4 gig of ram and i dont get no problems with frame loss the only thing i can recomend is that you turn off dynamic lighting and shadows its meant to be a real card killer in terms of fps.

    Thanks, I'll try that.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Demanding that people post proof of their game running smoothly is, well... (there is no other way to put this) completely absurd.

    It's as if you are claiming that because it doesn't run well on your system, it can't possibly run well on any other system. As if they are all built exactly like yours. These are not consoles, hardware varies massively.

    Does it now occur to you how ridiculously silly demanding to see 'videos of STO running well' are?

    Post in the support forum and try to get some legitimate help, otherwise this thread was simple trolling.

    Edit: Oh, and the game runs great. Feel free to hold your breath while waiting for the 'video proof'. ;)
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Ironfungus wrote: »
    Post videos of Star Trek Online including your frames per second, and then we'll discuss if the problem lies on my end or not. Again, we are not on the same page.


    how about you post yours lagging first? coz i do not believe you either. whooomp, gotcha.
    and suuuurely it's not a prob on your side, 80% are playing just fine, how could it be you? our mistake, rest is obviously using some "good connection" hack *G*
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    The game ran better for me in OB then it does now. However I made the mistake of upgrading to Vista SP 1 just because I was tired of the freakin' update popup thing.

    I figure in a few days I'll get used to it and won't notice it anymore.

    ONe thing that has been fixed is the occasional empty little boxes dancing around my screen. However, in some zones when my weapons fire (ground zones) the floor tiles turn black in sync with the gun fires.

    I knew I shouldn't of updated to SP1.

    Simple things can go all kinds of wonky on your system.

    It's also up to you to supply the burden of proof that your system is not running fine. You're the one making the oriiginal statement. In a court of law you have to proof your problem first, then it's up to the other side to try and disprove it. Pretty much the same way in the scientific process, you have to prove your theory otherwise it's just words.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Go to your ingame video settings and disable screenspace ambient occlusion, that should fix your problem.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    The game ran better for me in OB then it does now. However I made the mistake of upgrading to Vista SP 1 just because I was tired of the freakin' update popup thing.

    I figure in a few days I'll get used to it and won't notice it anymore.

    ONe thing that has been fixed is the occasional empty little boxes dancing around my screen. However, in some zones when my weapons fire (ground zones) the floor tiles turn black in sync with the gun fires.

    I knew I shouldn't of updated to SP1.

    Simple things can go all kinds of wonky on your system.

    It's also up to you to supply the burden of proof that your system is not running fine. You're the one making the oriiginal statement. In a court of law you have to proof your problem first, then it's up to the other side to try and disprove it. Pretty much the same way in the scientific process, you have to prove your theory otherwise it's just words.

    Upgrading to SP1 was a good idea... actually not upgrading for so long was the bad one. Vista SP1 solves a number of the issues that gave it such a bad image at launch.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    For someone who thinks his comp should run this game great ect ect, you sure didnt know much about turning down some of the most basic settings ..


    makes me think if you really even know what your talking about here..

    I run between 40 and 60 fps with a older 8800gts 320 meg card and a dual core 3.2 with 6 gigs ram on vista 64.. with all the settings maxed besides AA / Shadows / Bloom at 1920 by 1080 on a 50 inch 1080 p plasma and game runs fine for me..


    sounds like you have something either turned up to high , or a common problem most overlook .. running the game in window mode but maxing it out to full screen .. this will cause all types of game shutter and video lag..
    make sure in option window that your running in full screen and not window mode maxed to full screen, I know it sounds stupid , but this really does cause problems...
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Ironfungus wrote: »
    Besides for the inevitable "rubber banding" going on (which I understand entirely), the game runs like absolute TRIBBLE. My machine destroys the recommended system requirements for this game, so I know it's not my PC.

    The game has been pretty fun thus far, but by release I was hoping that it would be optimized. Doesn't look like that's going to happen. There also seems to be a major input lag regarding movement (WASD) and camera rotation.

    Performance has dropped significantly since OB and CB for some reason? I still have everything on max, but it never used to drop before 60fps for me. It certainly doesn't feel as smooth anymore!
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    My game runs real smooth.
    Only the rubberbanding is driving me nuts.
    8x AA, 16x AF 1650:1080
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Ironfungus wrote: »
    Besides for the inevitable "rubber banding" going on (which I understand entirely), the game runs like absolute TRIBBLE. My machine destroys the recommended system requirements for this game, so I know it's not my PC.

    The game has been pretty fun thus far, but by release I was hoping that it would be optimized. Doesn't look like that's going to happen. There also seems to be a major input lag regarding movement (WASD) and camera rotation.

    Turn of dynamic lights and it will be fine.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Awarkle wrote: »
    i got the 1gig version of the same card you have got, plus a tripple core phemon 2.3 but im running win7 64with 4 gig of ram and i dont get no problems with frame loss the only thing i can recomend is that you turn off dynamic lighting and shadows its meant to be a real card killer in terms of fps.

    Yep, seems to be running MUCH better now though in other games I can handle dynamic lighting / shadows well. Dunno, but it's pretty nice now. Controls are still slightly sluggish but I guess I can deal with that.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    My computer barely meets the minimum requirements and it runs fine in terms of lag. Minimal rubberbanding. I do have the graphics turned way down but I don't have any actual gameplay glitches or lag.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Lol typical "buy the best" and not know anything about computers yet still have a ***** thread then.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Ironfungus wrote: »
    We clearly have different views of what runs well and what doesn't, so we are not on the same page.


    edit: Looks like Beraskus is having the same deal.

    I had lots of lag until I updated my NVIDIA drivers to 196.xx ... also I had to go Windows 7 64 bit for it to work well (it's a Mac Pro so really this game is the only reason I got Windows, never tried XP or Vista before).
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Runs good here in Europe with some lag, now and then, and a few minor bugs. (Im vy soon lvl 7).
    1 or 2 rubberbandings during play so fare.
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