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Mudd Gets Caught in the Middle

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Mudd's Old Rivals Choice Pack is coming to PC today!

https://www.playstartrekonline.com/en/news/article/11573295
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  • questeriusquesterius Member Posts: 8,509 Arc User
    edited January 7
    A bit dated with the ships, but interesting.

    The Archeros which can be followed while cloaked simply by listening, the sphere builder with possibly one of the most hated abilities in the game (sphere of speed reducing physical damage) and the xindi strike escort with a console which may make plasma builds even more lethal.

    Not sure if it is a match for me, but definitely an interesting mix.

    Edit: It's a shame that the consoles on the sphere builder and xindi ships are bound to resp. sphere builder and xindi vessel.
    If the developers removed that restriction then those consoles would become a lot more interesting.
    This program, though reasonably normal at times, seems to have a strong affinity to classes belonging to the Cat 2.0 program. Questerius 2.7 will break down on occasion, resulting in garbage and nonsense messages whenever it occurs. Usually a hard reboot or pulling the plug solves the problem when that happens.
  • inferiorityinferiority Member Posts: 4,459 Arc User
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    Whut? Why the hell would anyone buy a 29,500zen pack that contains an option of an item worth 2,000zen?
    In fact, it's not even worth that! It's available for free with a KDF character at level 65!

    Now, it's been included in previous packs as something that's granted automagically due to some of the ships being faction-locked, but on this occasion it's one of the 8 'prize' options???

    This one is absolutely pointless to include this time as none of the ships are faction-locked.
    Additionally, this is a 2,000zen item effectively being offered for 10,000zen - that's a five-fold price rise!!!

    I think that particular option needs some massive rethinking!
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  • questeriusquesterius Member Posts: 8,509 Arc User
    NOTE: Due to unforeseen technical issues, the Old Rivals Choice Pack launch will be delayed until 01/09, and the discount will be extended to 1/15.

    Wanted to check the bundle ingame and could not find it.
    This program, though reasonably normal at times, seems to have a strong affinity to classes belonging to the Cat 2.0 program. Questerius 2.7 will break down on occasion, resulting in garbage and nonsense messages whenever it occurs. Usually a hard reboot or pulling the plug solves the problem when that happens.
  • oliverrogerr#5018 oliverrogerr Member Posts: 109 Arc User
    edited January 7
    Extremely dated ships, they don't compare to the current T6, the value of this bundle borders on insulting, if you want to sell ships that are more than 10 years old, have the decency to update them to today's standards, It would be better to have put these weak ships on the Phoenix epic or lobi, besides ANNORAX should be part of this bundle to be minimally attractive, it is certainly the weakest package ever put on sale.

    Edit: and I still forgot to mention what my colleague said about the consoles still being fixed to the ships, I thought this mechanic had been updated ages ago to remove these restrictions. DECA is not limited like previous owners, please consult your players first of making decisions about the game, it is MORE PROFITABLE if you give us what we want.
  • questeriusquesterius Member Posts: 8,509 Arc User
    Extremely dated ships, they don't compare to the current T6, the value of this bundle borders on insulting, if you want to sell ships that are more than 10 years old, have the decency to update them to today's standards, It would be better to have put these weak ships on the Phoenix epic or lobi, besides ANNORAX should be part of this bundle to be minimally attractive, it is certainly the weakest package ever put on sale.

    Edit: and I still forgot to mention what my colleague said about the consoles still being fixed to the ships, I thought this mechanic had been updated ages ago to remove these restrictions. DECA is not limited like previous owners, please consult your players first of making decisions about the game, it is MORE PROFITABLE if you give us what we want.

    A bit dated and a little niche, but it is an interesting bundle.
    Would be better if those consoles were more useful which is something beneficial to other ships as well.
    This program, though reasonably normal at times, seems to have a strong affinity to classes belonging to the Cat 2.0 program. Questerius 2.7 will break down on occasion, resulting in garbage and nonsense messages whenever it occurs. Usually a hard reboot or pulling the plug solves the problem when that happens.
  • husanakxhusanakx Member Posts: 1,610 Arc User
    Extremely dated ships, they don't compare to the current T6, the value of this bundle borders on insulting, if you want to sell ships that are more than 10 years old, have the decency to update them to today's standards, It would be better to have put these weak ships on the Phoenix epic or lobi, besides ANNORAX should be part of this bundle to be minimally attractive, it is certainly the weakest package ever put on sale.

    Edit: and I still forgot to mention what my colleague said about the consoles still being fixed to the ships, I thought this mechanic had been updated ages ago to remove these restrictions. DECA is not limited like previous owners, please consult your players first of making decisions about the game, it is MORE PROFITABLE if you give us what we want.

    Pretty much exactly this. They could have taken each of these ships and added them to Phoenix one at a time over a few months.
    Anyone buying this bundle needs a head examination. Decade old long out of date ships. One lobi. All with species ship locked consoles. Ship traits that are worse then free ship traits we get from the skill tree. Really a terrible pack.

    Then again I'm glad they didn't go and through one fantastic ship in with this drek trying to force us to buy it. That would have been low. Cryptic if you read any of these. You can still add these to the phoenix box. They mean nothing to me but I could see a few people burning a gold token here and there on them. Wait a month when you see you have made two or three sales, you know your good to go not eating any sales having them both places.
  • davefenestratordavefenestrator Member Posts: 10,697 Arc User
    edited January 8
    A more interesting bundle might have been all four of the Xindi ships and some upgradeable biomatter weapons. Get all the consoles, fly all the ships, have a xindi-themed captain.

    DECA could do that with the Tholian, Herald, Vaadwaur sets too. Prices could be lower than other bundles since I think the sets have at most one "trait ship" that people still want while the other ships are old and niche.
  • phoenixc#0738 phoenixc Member Posts: 5,899 Arc User
    The ships are old and lackluster enough compared to more current ships that their main draw is the space Barbie aspect, and for that the best place for them would have been in the cstore ship page in the 'Non-Aligned' tab so they could be picked up with the regular T6 coupons, but that will probably never happen no matter how outdated they are.

    That said, they would be nice to have (mainly for that space Barbie reason), but I imagine there are probably not too many people playing who would think nothing of dropping $145.50 for three ships (@ $48.50 each) that are barely worth the $30 of regular T6's from the cstore. And most of the whales have been around long enough that they probably already have them.
  • wahlberg88wahlberg88 Member Posts: 20 Arc User
    This unfortunately is one of a string of lackluster Mudd's bundles that we have had since the dreadnought pack that the DPRM came in.

    I agree with Dave on the species specific packs, a Xindi pack here would have been a far better seller even if it included something like the Briostrys that is already in another bundle, especially if it included enhanced biomatter weapons and maybe a costume.

    While I can certainly understand keeping the better ships rare to save value, ships this old that bring literally no meaningful value to the player base makes this bundle somewhat pointless and feels like another missed opportunity.

    I'm sure alot of players have saved up Zen via grinding or have picked up some during recent sales and are waiting for something decent to spend it on, unfortunately packs like this disincentivise any further Zen pickups because it's going to become an expectation that Mudd's Bundles aren't going to bring any value to the table.

    Hopefully the feedback does not fall on deaf ears.
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