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T6 Typhoon Request: Old Typhoon model as extra skin
roninwolf1981
Member Posts: 622 Arc User
Thank you for giving us the T6 Typhoon. As much as we appreciate the updated look, there are a fair amount of us that liked the older look, and we would also like the old visuals available to the T6 Typhoon as an extra skin.
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Posting some screenshots for posterity, just in case.
*Edit:
Posting some screenshots for posterity, just in case.
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Thank you.
I'm glad to see I'm not the only one.
Perhaps it could become somebody's work passion project at DECA to bring the original Typhoon into the fold, too.
Whatever limitations applied to designing starships when STO was first launched, I think whoever realised the original Typhoon was inspired.
My bottom line: There is room for both versions to exist, and I would pay money for them (including Terran options).
I could not have said it better myself.
Quote "The previous model isn't a good representation of the quality of art or fidelity to the Star Trek IP that we strive for in present-day STO. It does not contribute to immersion nor does it feel like a modern game asset. For the overall visual quality of the game, it'll be retired"
Source: https://x.com/thomasthecat/status/1842767908512149598
It is odd that Marrone cites immersion as one of the reasons against it when the written lore for it explicitly says that it was built as a cheaper alternative to the other supercapital ships. The brutalist simplicity and stacking of off-the-shelf engines meant for a smaller ship than the Typhoon class, that the original design has is actually more immersive than a ship with all sorts of decorative geegaws built into it.
On a practical modeling standpoint though, it is harder to model in some ways, you have to be very careful with the materials to make it look good instead of dull and overly plain. Give it a good subsurf treatment and it could look very impressive and brutally pragmatic at the same time, especially if it has a bronze tone like the picture from the wiki,
or even grey with strong bronze undertone, to show an uncoated tritanium alloy hull (similar to what the Klingons do, but with a shinier version of the alloy). And yes, according to both Roddenberry and Jefferies in interviews, tritanium is a "red" metal like copper or gold, not a "gray" or "white" metal like steel or silver. The TOS deflector dish, the choke ring antenna at the dish's base, and the grills on the sides of the nacelles (the ones that faced each other, not the ones on the rear end) were brass to represent uncoated tritanium, on the big shooting model.
The in-story reason the ship's hull was white was because it had a ceramic coating on it to help protect against interstellar gas and dust erosion (wearing and residue on the ceramic coating is what that greenish grunge that was airbrushed onto the big model was all about, though no one could see it on a TV screen so they didn't bother doing it on the smaller models), which was not possible with the antennas and those grills for some reason (presumably they get replaced on an infrequent but regular basis).
BTW, one of the reasons they don't use the old model as a skin is that the new mesh is not at all compatible with the old mesh, so they would have to completely model the old one again from scratch, which is probably not something they are willing to do for a ship they give away for free.
I believe we'd also like the same for the Jupiter:
But, I just don't think we'd ever get either.