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Kumaarke V Outfit Sound Effect REMOVAL
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Hello STO Community!!!! As a player for many years, and after Many events, we have ALL gotten quite a few pieces of reclaimable gear, for me, one of my favorites is the Kumaarke 4 piece set. Its amazing, BUT.... The Static Sound Effect for like 20 seconds, every time you do anything, load into DS9, beam down to Camp Charlie on Nukara, or even just a quick stroll to the Dance Comp on Nimbus, and EVERYONE can hear you coming a mile away.... I Beg the dev's, PLEASE REMOVE the Static Discharge/Overload Sound Effect from the outfit. There is NO NEED for it. The visual effect is cool, that sound... like nails on a chalkboard.
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I use the shield repair drones on some of my ships with a single hangar bay. Their sound is very annoying too.
They can hit people differently based on their stimulus sensitivities. It's not great to question whether someone finds something uncomfortable and try to catch them in a "but what about..." rhetorical game per what you reckon. If someone finds a stimulus uncomfortable, that's entirely their experience to tell and you let them tell it. To do anything else is extremely problematic, as odds are if a specific audio cue is viscerally bothering someone it's a human neurological reaction and not one of simple habit. Nails on a chalk board, rubbing a balloon, these aren't reactions people who are bothered can help. The more you know.
Personally, they're both obnoxious but I'd welcome the audio effect removal (for this asset *specifically*, as the screeching audio is by far more uncomfortable.
It's not an issue about general FX spam, it's how this audio cue was made and implemented. It was bad on release, we provided feedback then, and no action was taken. Which is not great. Those talking about a general FX removal are barking up a different tree vs. an especially annoying bit of kit with a grating sound effect hitting a piercing register. We don't need a general system update to fix this issue, just better audio design on one item. Have another audio effect to add? Put it on the list for adjustments. We can deal with the worst offenders here and make huge progress without a massive system update allowing users to toggle sound FX on each item and ability (a nightmarish UI proposal to let players customize around a badly set handful of audio effects...when a well designed audio scape absolutely should not require that level of detail. Eg. if you're viewing this as a reasonable recourse, the standard expectation has failed and you should probably ask the devs to address that far more directly instead. Eg. Bin the static sound or replace it with something that isn't piercing.)
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You are missing the point of this post Completely, like wow o.O Turning off "All Audio" is already available, the point is this particular Rare outfit you can't get anymore has a constant crackling sound. I still want to play the game, watch the cutscenes, hear all the dialogue.... /facepalm
Yeah, it's like answering in one of the many threads about visual spam that you can just turn off your screen, lol.
I mean, that works too - but I'd prefer an on/off switch for specific sound (and visual) effects.
From a programming standpoint, this is a huge undertaking and is highly unlikely to happen.
From a "Programming standpoint", its actually quite easy than most things in game. It already attached to its item/the sound only come from that. And 2nd point how easy a toggle is.... Remember April Fools day with the "Sound Effects" Button? If you do that, not that different on programming, since its just 1 sound, very everything that the AF does, from the bings to the chirps.... Another way to add it into the game as a toggle, just like swapping from regular ground armor to Space Walk armor, there is a little switch in the inventory screen, that could almost be added to include/discontinue sound effects. There are many ways to go about it, so I wouldn't say its a huge undertaking if you don't know....
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When it comes to code, especially STO code... NOTHING is as simple as it appears. If that sound happens to be shared with something else, just simply "turning it off" on the Kumaaarke armor might accidentally turn it off elsewhere.
Way back in the Foundry days, Kael once deleted core system files for the Foundry by updating the text of a c-store entry. That shouldn't have been physically possible but an MMO developed over 14 years now runs into emergent problems of complexity that most folks (even with coding experience) haven't likely encountered, as we're into the theoretical realm of how entropy interacts with complexity at large scales (and how to impose some kind of feasible order to that system). The only analog I've seen that helps makes sense of it all is developmental genetics. So any added switch flipping is going to be something to tread with care, especially when handling system files that were never intended to be modified (ex. sounds). The issues encountered may easily not be restricted to other sounds.
Add on top of all that, folks should probably consider the basic point that most effects in the game do not need tailoring. For what you would achieve with a Martin Dressler of audio system updates, you could achieve the bulk of the practical effect by tweaking the sound effect or audio balance of problem offenders. Ex. screeching static electricity from Mirror Kuumarkee's set. If that solution still isn't acceptable, then maybe you can start reasonably asking for make-your-own soundscape layered into every interacting UI in the game. But start with the basics, as those are easier to fit on short timescales into packed dev schedules, especially when the rally cry here is a single audio effect on a single set bonus (with an open question of whether a comparable second candidate to suggest fixing/removing exists).
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As far as folks thinking disabling visual effects is easy: the system that handles visual effects from powers also handles weapon models (source; Ten Forward Weekly), so disabling the class of FX that results in space magical visual spam means no one has guns in the game. And there's different levels for how this stuff is processed between client and host, which I don't fully grasp the predictable logic behind but still scares me with the complexity thereof (which means that turning off at least some of the effects for YOU would also mean turning them off for everyone on the map). It is an utterly massive knot to untangle, per the devs, that will also require performance considerations on top of bare, duct tape and bailing wire feasibility. And folks shouldn't use an end-user perspective on (for example) vanity effects to judge whether or not the devs are just holding out on us here. The effect of a UI is not the same as the difficulty of its programming. Games are meant to be simple to operate, they do not clue you into the madness working behind the scenes to bring you simulated fantasies.
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