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madcat3108#5742 madcat3108 Member Posts: 2 Arc User
Hello,

i found that i can equip a Omni Directional Protostar Phaser Array, even when i already have another Omni Directional Array on the ship.

The Item descriptor says "only 1 at a time" but the protostar array seems to ignore that.

Tested with different omni-dir arrays on 2 different ships.

Regards
Post edited by baddmoonrizin on

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  • baddmoonrizinbaddmoonrizin Member Posts: 10,973 Community Moderator
    You're allowed 2 Omni Directional Arrays. This is not a bug. /moved
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  • inferiorityinferiority Member Posts: 4,435 Arc User
    Aye, one omni that's part of a set, and one that isn't.

    This doesn't include the Kinetic Cutting Beam, which can be equipped for a 'sort of' third one...
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  • spiritbornspiritborn Member Posts: 4,384 Arc User
    Aye, one omni that's part of a set, and one that isn't.

    This doesn't include the Kinetic Cutting Beam, which can be equipped for a 'sort of' third one...

    from what I've gathered the Kinetic Cutting Beam is kind in its own unique category due technically not really being a beam weapon but it's all really complicated and weird.

    But yeah the "can equip only 1 at a time" is in regards to beams within the specific category, so "set omni-beams" for the Protostar one. However you can equip as many beams as you can from different categories, there only 2(or 3 if you count the KCB) categories though so in practice 2 (or 3 with the KCB) omni-beams in total.
  • tom61stotom61sto Member Posts: 3,673 Arc User
    edited August 2023
    Aye, one omni that's part of a set, and one that isn't.

    That bit of advice has been thrown under the bus, as the past two event ones are in a set and can go along with a mission reward set or a lobi set one. They'll block you from slotting along with a crafted, Lockbox drop one, or the other event omni).
  • rattler2rattler2 Member, Star Trek Online Moderator Posts: 58,643 Community Moderator
    Sounds like internally they're tagged as crafted or something. The basic rule still applies in you can't have a whole loadout of Omnis however.
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  • nixie50nixie50 Member Posts: 1,347 Arc User
    spiritborn wrote: »
    Aye, one omni that's part of a set, and one that isn't.

    This doesn't include the Kinetic Cutting Beam, which can be equipped for a 'sort of' third one...

    from what I've gathered the Kinetic Cutting Beam is kind in its own unique category due technically not really being a beam weapon but it's all really complicated and weird.

    But yeah the "can equip only 1 at a time" is in regards to beams within the specific category, so "set omni-beams" for the Protostar one. However you can equip as many beams as you can from different categories, there only 2(or 3 if you count the KCB) categories though so in practice 2 (or 3 with the KCB) omni-beams in total.

    yep. you can equip the Protostar beam and a crafted beam, but you cant equip the protostar beam with, sat, the trilithium beam
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  • davefenestratordavefenestrator Member Posts: 10,673 Arc User
    edited August 2023
    Ideally, the silly omni restriction would be removed.

    Failing that, it would be nice if all omnis would tell you which of ( type A ) or ( type B ) they fit into so you don't spend EC, lock boxes, lobi, rep marks, or episode time getting an array that fits into the same type as an array you already have equipped.

    I once won the lucky roll to get a lock box omni beam from a weapon pack only to find I couldn't equip it :(
  • tom61stotom61sto Member Posts: 3,673 Arc User
    edited August 2023
    rattler2 wrote: »
    Sounds like internally they're tagged as crafted or something. The basic rule still applies in you can't have a whole loadout of Omnis however.

    From dev streams from when Bortacus still on the STO team, they seem to think in terms of what it blocks, not what it is tagged as. Borticus seemed to not know about the user approximation of the limits as 'set and non-set' until a Dev Stream not that long before the the Lobi set with the Plasma omni came out, where Kael had to explain why users in chat were asking for a 'set Plasma Omni'. He had an 'ah-ha' look on his face like he was looking for something that'd fit with... then the still only Plasma Omni a crafted one go along side was released as a Lobi item in a set.
    nixie50 wrote: »
    spiritborn wrote: »
    Aye, one omni that's part of a set, and one that isn't.

    This doesn't include the Kinetic Cutting Beam, which can be equipped for a 'sort of' third one...

    from what I've gathered the Kinetic Cutting Beam is kind in its own unique category due technically not really being a beam weapon but it's all really complicated and weird.

    But yeah the "can equip only 1 at a time" is in regards to beams within the specific category, so "set omni-beams" for the Protostar one. However you can equip as many beams as you can from different categories, there only 2(or 3 if you count the KCB) categories though so in practice 2 (or 3 with the KCB) omni-beams in total.

    yep. you can equip the Protostar beam and a crafted beam, but you cant equip the protostar beam with, sat, the trilithium beam

    I've been hearing the opposite, as well as having seen Youtube videos, where it lets you use the Trililium omni.
    Ideally, the silly omni restriction would be removed.

    Failing that, it would be nice if all omnis would tell you which of ( type A ) or ( type B ) they fit into so you don't spend EC, lock boxes, lobi, rep marks, or episode time getting an array that fits into the same type as an array you already have equipped.

    I once won the lucky roll to get a lock box omni beam from a weapon pack only to find I couldn't equip it :(

    Yeah, better communication of what blocks what would be nice. (Flaming, trolling comments moderated out. - BMR)
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  • baucoinbaucoin Member Posts: 821 Arc User
    The Interlacing Tetryon Beam is also behaving differently. I can equip it with the Ancient Omni from Sphere of influence. A mission reward one but can't equip a crafted Onmi. If I remove the Interlacing one, I can equip the crafted one with the Ancient. Like others have posted I thought we could equip one from a set, one crafted one, and if you care to the Kinetic cutting beam.
  • davefenestratordavefenestrator Member Posts: 10,673 Arc User
    baucoin wrote: »
    The Interlacing Tetryon Beam is also behaving differently. I can equip it with the Ancient Omni from Sphere of influence. A mission reward one but can't equip a crafted Onmi. If I remove the Interlacing one, I can equip the crafted one with the Ancient. Like others have posted I thought we could equip one from a set, one crafted one, and if you care to the Kinetic cutting beam.

    So it has been placed in the same group as crafted, but the only way to figure that out is to try using it.

    Without tooltips, someone would need to put together a wiki page listing which group every omni belongs to, and players would need to know about that page before thinking of getting the omni.

    Orrrr...devs could just remove the restrictions? Please?
  • lunaryx#1814 lunaryx Member Posts: 13 Arc User
    edited August 2023
    baucoin wrote: »
    The Interlacing Tetryon Beam is also behaving differently. I can equip it with the Ancient Omni from Sphere of influence. A mission reward one but can't equip a crafted Onmi. If I remove the Interlacing one, I can equip the crafted one with the Ancient. Like others have posted I thought we could equip one from a set, one crafted one, and if you care to the Kinetic cutting beam.

    I ran into the same issue. And according to the event page at https://www.arcgames.com/en/games/playstation/star-trek-online/news/detail/11543293-looming-threats-event!, it states "This weapon shares an equip limit with other crafted and weapon pack Omni-Directional Beams." So I'm not sure if it's intentional, but it definitely throws a wrench into the idea of set vs. non-set.

    EDIT: Honestly, the restriction on what types should be removed and a new restriction of any two should be put into place. Would get rid of this whole problem and open up new doors for setups.
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  • baucoinbaucoin Member Posts: 821 Arc User
    baucoin wrote: »
    The Interlacing Tetryon Beam is also behaving differently. I can equip it with the Ancient Omni from Sphere of influence. A mission reward one but can't equip a crafted Onmi. If I remove the Interlacing one, I can equip the crafted one with the Ancient. Like others have posted I thought we could equip one from a set, one crafted one, and if you care to the Kinetic cutting beam.

    I ran into the same issue. And according to the event page at https://www.arcgames.com/en/games/playstation/star-trek-online/news/detail/11543293-looming-threats-event!, it states "This weapon shares an equip limit with other crafted and weapon pack Omni-Directional Beams." So I'm not sure if it's intentional, but it definitely throws a wrench into the idea of set vs. non-set.

    EDIT: Honestly, the restriction on what types should be removed and a new restriction of any two should be put into place. Would get rid of this whole problem and open up new doors for setups.

    I agree, they just need to set a limit of two Omni's of any type and be done with it.
  • nixie50nixie50 Member Posts: 1,347 Arc User
    set the limit to 3, so even if you have a 4-4, you can have 3 omnis and a torpedo aft
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