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Big gaps in face models (female 03 most severely) - plus reports for ponytail issues
duncanidaho11
Member Posts: 7,980 Arc User
Here's another report for a *long* standing issue regarding a few face models. Female 03 and 05 (to lesser extent) have had gaps/seams in their geometry introduce with an old update. It renders 03 unusuable with most hairstyles and 05 feel low quality. 03's issues rank in my book (one of STO's most experienced space barbie enthusiasts between game and Foundry) as the most severe issue in the tailor. It needs fixing. Gaps affects all versions of both heads (faction/species don't matter) though some hairstyles appear to make the gaps less prominent (ie. they seem to close up a bit).
Female 03 gaps (also run along front left/right of neck)
Female 05 gaps - back and side of face (left and right)
Further 05 gaps - side of the mouth at upper corners
Furthermore, since hair physics were introduced ponytail 03's bangs have been entirely borked. On the right side (from character POV) the bangs clip and z fight aggressively heavily into the forehead, while on the left side there's an unsightly gap compared to the old model (aesthetic criticism but it looks janky).
Right side area of clipping
Left side gap:
Old bangs:
Maybe a v2 hairstyle of ponytail 03 is the way to go but the updates to the model seemed aggressive and arbitrary to add the hair physics into the bangs. The result was a marked downgrade which made it fall well below usable standards. I know older hairstyles aren't as important to STO as the v2's but I have at least one friend who still want to use this for their characters (especially as no v2 version was introduced) but can't because of the problematic update of this asset for hair physics.
Furthermore, ponytail 01 v2 has had marred material effects (only way I can describe it) since introduction. When the hair color is very light these tend not to stand out. But with darker hair, jagged, geometric patches in the luster/gloss of the hair are apparent. Affects bangs most of all but there's a patch on the back of the ponytail as well.
It would REALLY help the tailor to fix issues like these, as they build over time to progressively add more reasons to get frustrated/check out (especially if favored assets are hit). We badly need a good bug bashing run for character art (there's also more to report with short sleeved outfits still clipping through updated body models, male most prominently still...).
Female 03 gaps (also run along front left/right of neck)
Female 05 gaps - back and side of face (left and right)
Further 05 gaps - side of the mouth at upper corners
Furthermore, since hair physics were introduced ponytail 03's bangs have been entirely borked. On the right side (from character POV) the bangs clip and z fight aggressively heavily into the forehead, while on the left side there's an unsightly gap compared to the old model (aesthetic criticism but it looks janky).
Right side area of clipping
Left side gap:
Old bangs:
Maybe a v2 hairstyle of ponytail 03 is the way to go but the updates to the model seemed aggressive and arbitrary to add the hair physics into the bangs. The result was a marked downgrade which made it fall well below usable standards. I know older hairstyles aren't as important to STO as the v2's but I have at least one friend who still want to use this for their characters (especially as no v2 version was introduced) but can't because of the problematic update of this asset for hair physics.
Furthermore, ponytail 01 v2 has had marred material effects (only way I can describe it) since introduction. When the hair color is very light these tend not to stand out. But with darker hair, jagged, geometric patches in the luster/gloss of the hair are apparent. Affects bangs most of all but there's a patch on the back of the ponytail as well.
It would REALLY help the tailor to fix issues like these, as they build over time to progressively add more reasons to get frustrated/check out (especially if favored assets are hit). We badly need a good bug bashing run for character art (there's also more to report with short sleeved outfits still clipping through updated body models, male most prominently still...).
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