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updates for certain Federation ships

corerunner#1772 corerunner Member Posts: 119 Arc User
edited March 2023 in Federation Discussion
Certain federation ships are missing hull configurations and material options. for the NX it's missing the Into Mirror Darkly ISS, altered timeline E2 enterprise hull, NX 02 hull material and saucer type. for the Connie its missing the ISS hull variations for TOS, TMP and Phase 2 hulls. For the Crossfield it's missing the 2016 teaser and planet of the titans concept styles. I am wondering as this would give these ships a bit more customization and maybe updating some of them with the new variations would give new life into people using them.
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    eazzieeazzie Member Posts: 4,046 Arc User
    The one thing to remember here is copyright Paramount may not have the copyright to that which you are asking. As for the Crossfield Titans concept styles this was and abandoned project, no scripts or other source materials regarding the project can be got hold of. It was actually the Enterprise refit in said project and not a Crossfield. as you can see from the attached article.

    https://roguereviewer.wordpress.com/2017/09/13/a-trek-not-taken-star-trek-discovers-a-planet-of-the-titans/
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    corerunner#1772 corerunner Member Posts: 119 Arc User
    Yes but the concept was seen flying in a few episodes and is shown on screen. It's not the first time a concept was used like the early Excelsior model was also seen as a separate ship.
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    phoenixc#0738 phoenixc Member Posts: 5,612 Arc User
    edited January 2023
    The Planet of Titans ship is actually canon, it has appeared in the background in Star Trek III and at least one episode of TNG (in a ship mothball facility) intact, and a broken-up version in DS9 in the Wolf 359 debris field. It obviously is not the Crossfield class though since the secondary hull is an actual delta and not just that exaggerated-coffin shaped hull with extremely wide and thick struts, and the saucer is small and nothing like the Crossfield or the ship shown at one of the conventions when the series was in very early development.

    Also, the script (such as it is, it was apparently never given a final shooting-grade draft) is available if you hunt around for it enough (it is horrible, worse even than the failed Lost in Space reboot series pilot that was made around 2000 (give or take a few years) or thereabouts). Anyway, in that script the PoT Enterprise was not supposed to be a refit of the TOS ship, it was an entirely new ship to replace the (by then) thirty-year-old TOS ship.

    Another odd feature of it is that the saucer was not the primary hull, the delta was. The saucer was a science lander for planetary exploration (as shown in one of Mcquarrie's drawings below):

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    Personally, I think it would be great if the devs put the Mcquarrie ship (and possibly even the convention ship too) in the c-store for those who like something similar to the Crossfield class but cannot afford the Crossfield versions (or are just fans of the Mcquarrie design in general).

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    corerunner#1772 corerunner Member Posts: 119 Arc User
    Well I was thinking of the Mcquarrie design for the crossfield as it would just be a freebie skin. if they did make the convention ship and this design as individuals it would be a lock box ship and those are annoying.
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    phoenixc#0738 phoenixc Member Posts: 5,612 Arc User
    edited January 2023
    Well I was thinking of the Mcquarrie design for the crossfield as it would just be a freebie skin. if they did make the convention ship and this design as individuals it would be a lock box ship and those are annoying.

    I don't think either one of the non-DSC Mcquarrie-style designs would fly as a lockbox ship when there are so many ships in those that people want more. Early rejected designs and ships from failed projects are more of a niche item, not the kind of thing that would encourage people to buy keys to open lockboxes. People would tend to go for one of the Crossfields instead (since it is from a canon show) unless the PoT or convention ship had some sort of meta-breaking console or trait, and that is not good in the long run because of power creep.

    On the other hand, they make fantastic c-store fallbacks for people who cannot afford the boxed version but want to play DSC or PII characters with something that could be from the same design stable as the hero ship, and that keeps them in the game longer which in turn looks good on the ratings and encourages more people to spend at least something (and the first sale is always the hardest, after people make one purchase, they are more likely to spend on the next thing they like, and so on).
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    corerunner#1772 corerunner Member Posts: 119 Arc User
    edited January 2023
    Though what are your thoughts on the Connie and NX hull and material additions?lr22oj6bbno5.png
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    phoenixc#0738 phoenixc Member Posts: 5,612 Arc User
    Though what are your thoughts on the Connie and NX hull and material additions?lr22oj6bbno5.png
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    The ones at the top make the hull look like it has a mold problem....
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    corerunner#1772 corerunner Member Posts: 119 Arc User
    Subspace rift sent the NX-01 to 2067 and over the next 100 years had to jury-rig shields, tractor beams and multiple other higher technologies. Overall it met up with the original Enterprise and gave it the impulse upgrades to safely traverse the subspace phenomenon. It's unknown if the ship is still there as a wreckage.
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    musealotmusealot Member Posts: 6 Arc User
    I have been waiting FOREVER for a Bridge pack that has TOS movie era bridges and even the hallways would be great! So many ships from that era but no comparable bridges is something that is sorely missing. Also, Cardassian hand weapons would be nice.
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    baddmoonrizinbaddmoonrizin Member Posts: 10,430 Community Moderator
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