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kjnewkjnew Member Posts: 10 Arc User
Would the Romulan story line be getting a refresh any time soon?
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  • tom61stotom61sto Member Posts: 3,674 Arc User
    They haven't said anything recently about it. There were plans a bit back, but that changed into 'Year of the Klingon' since they needed to redo Klingon maps anyway if they were to tackle Romlulan maps. Probably not going to go back on the menu (if ever) until Picard S3 is finished, as that show has poked at the post-supernova Romulans a bit and might do more.
  • leemwatsonleemwatson Member Posts: 5,509 Arc User
    kjnew wrote: »
    Would the Romulan story line be getting a refresh any time soon?

    The Romulans had a refresh update prior to the Klingons. The Romulans have more unique episodes than all the Fed factions and Jem'Hadar together. We are currently waiting for the Feds to be updated and restored back to what it was.
    "You don't want to patrol!? You don't want to escort!? You don't want to defend the Federation's Starbases!? Then why are you flying my Starships!? If you were a Klingon you'd be killed on the spot, but lucky for you.....you WERE in Starfleet. Let's see how New Zealand Penal Colony suits you." Adm A. Necheyev.
  • paradox#7391 paradox Member Posts: 1,800 Arc User
    I think the only thing left is to add in Picard additions like the Qowat Milat and Zhat Vash, Nemesis/ENT uniforms, SNW uniforms and probably add in an arc where the Romulans must deal with their sudden stance on synthetic life that was somehow caused by a Protean Beacon in Picard, where as before in TNG the Romulans seemed interested in the android known as Data, Imagine if the Next Star trek Villain ends up becoming Romulan Shepard.

    Sorry for the references but the Romulan storyline in Picard season 1 sounded very similar to the plot of Mass Effect 1.
  • jgold87jgold87 Member Posts: 1 Arc User
    For the love of God NO!
    I know it is weird to say I don't want them to update or add to a faction. It's weirder when you factor in that Romulans are one of my absolute favorite things in Star Trek.
    Problem with these folks updating things is they make grand announcements about all these things they're going to update and remaster. They 10 of them from the game, touch up 2 of them, and then NEVER MENTION THE REST AGAIN!
    When asked about it devs have made flippant remarks that people would rather have new content. They see the metrics and so that might be true, but I think they are also a bit disconnected from reality at times. I'd say the community is pretty evenly split between those who want new stuff and those who want things like the Federation story to have weight to it again.

    So I say again NO! Please DO NOT update my favorite faction because your track record for years now shows that you'll only put a tenth of what you take out back leaving an experience that while vaguely prettier feels completely soulless!
  • inferiorityinferiority Member Posts: 4,447 Arc User
    kjnew wrote: »
    Would the Romulan story line be getting a refresh any time soon?
    Why would it need it? They've got the best storyline in the whole game, which is still good to this day.
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  • lianthelialianthelia Member Posts: 7,897 Arc User
    kjnew wrote: »
    Would the Romulan story line be getting a refresh any time soon?

    Don't count on it...they've pretty much abandoned all the "other" factions
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  • evilmark444evilmark444 Member Posts: 6,951 Arc User
    tom61sto wrote: »
    There were plans a bit back, but that changed into 'Year of the Klingon'

    This is incorrect, what they've said is that they actually DID do an update pass on the Romulan stuff before the YoK, they just didn't make a big deal about it like they did with YoK so it went under the radar for most players. I personally only ever played the original version of those missions once though so I wouldn't be able to tell what was changed.
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  • paradox#7391 paradox Member Posts: 1,800 Arc User
    jgold87 wrote: »
    Romulans are one of my absolute favorite things in Star Trek.

    Me too, I really liked the appeal of them since their debut episode Balance of Terror, I loved that they're Vulcans but as bad guys, How I described them is not quite right technically they're not Vulcans, It's more fitting to say that they evolved from Vulcans, since there's some minor biological differences but you get what I'm saying, imagine coming across an enemy that resembles a founding member of your faction, it's an extremely rare occurance.
  • jonsillsjonsills Member Posts: 10,474 Arc User
    jgold87 wrote: »
    Romulans are one of my absolute favorite things in Star Trek.

    Me too, I really liked the appeal of them since their debut episode Balance of Terror, I loved that they're Vulcans but as bad guys, How I described them is not quite right technically they're not Vulcans, It's more fitting to say that they evolved from Vulcans, since there's some minor biological differences but you get what I'm saying, imagine coming across an enemy that resembles a founding member of your faction, it's an extremely rare occurance.
    There are some biological differences, but they shouldn't be terribly significant - according to available information, the Rihannsu left Vulcan only about 5000 years ago. That's a long time for a civilization, but the blink of an eye for evolution.
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  • phoenixc#0738 phoenixc Member Posts: 5,886 Arc User
    jgold87 wrote: »
    Romulans are one of my absolute favorite things in Star Trek.

    Me too, I really liked the appeal of them since their debut episode Balance of Terror, I loved that they're Vulcans but as bad guys, How I described them is not quite right technically they're not Vulcans, It's more fitting to say that they evolved from Vulcans, since there's some minor biological differences but you get what I'm saying, imagine coming across an enemy that resembles a founding member of your faction, it's an extremely rare occurance.

    Actually, they are Vulcans biologically, the difference is cultural mainly. When they had to find Spock on the Romulan ship the only way to tell him apart was to look for traces of human blood factors from his mixed heritage. Also, some throwaway dialog about Saavik mentioned that her blood type was common for Romulans but rare in Vulcans.

    That all hints that the Romulans did not evolve away from Vulcans but rather that the war that caused the split was probably not purely an ivory tower philosophical dispute and also had an ethnic element to it as well that was probably whitewashed over. That could also explain why most Vulcans are of the smooth forehead type and most Romulans the V-forehead type.

    I wish the devs would come up with some good TOS Romulan stuff, though they are probably afraid that if they do then SNW would canonshaft them by building on those TNG-style Romulans they had in that "what if" episode. The TNG Romulans are very much the cardboard villains unfortunately, since they are no longer in flux the way they were in TOS since the corruption that was talked about in "Balance of Terror" was fully in control by the time of TNG.

    Even in TNG though, the Romulan people themselves were not generally bad, it was the totally corrupted government and their favored elite (like the Tal Shiar and a lot of the military) who were the villains if you go by what was shown in the episodes with Ambassador Spock and the underground.
  • davefenestratordavefenestrator Member Posts: 10,690 Arc User
    edited December 2022
    They've tweaked the Romulan stories two or three times since 2014. The main thing I'd like to see fixed is the jarring change in voice acting for Tovan Khev. The replacement VA sounds too different and the audio levels don't match either in the Khitomer episode. I'd rather the new VA be removed (text only, or filler lines from the original recordings) than have it take me out of the story when it pops up.
  • paradox#7391 paradox Member Posts: 1,800 Arc User
    jgold87 wrote: »
    Romulans are one of my absolute favorite things in Star Trek.

    Me too, I really liked the appeal of them since their debut episode Balance of Terror, I loved that they're Vulcans but as bad guys, How I described them is not quite right technically they're not Vulcans, It's more fitting to say that they evolved from Vulcans, since there's some minor biological differences but you get what I'm saying, imagine coming across an enemy that resembles a founding member of your faction, it's an extremely rare occurance.

    Actually, they are Vulcans biologically, the difference is cultural mainly. When they had to find Spock on the Romulan ship the only way to tell him apart was to look for traces of human blood factors from his mixed heritage. Also, some throwaway dialog about Saavik mentioned that her blood type was common for Romulans but rare in Vulcans.

    That all hints that the Romulans did not evolve away from Vulcans but rather that the war that caused the split was probably not purely an ivory tower philosophical dispute and also had an ethnic element to it as well that was probably whitewashed over. That could also explain why most Vulcans are of the smooth forehead type and most Romulans the V-forehead type.

    I wish the devs would come up with some good TOS Romulan stuff, though they are probably afraid that if they do then SNW would canonshaft them by building on those TNG-style Romulans they had in that "what if" episode. The TNG Romulans are very much the cardboard villains unfortunately, since they are no longer in flux the way they were in TOS since the corruption that was talked about in "Balance of Terror" was fully in control by the time of TNG.

    Even in TNG though, the Romulan people themselves were not generally bad, it was the totally corrupted government and their favored elite (like the Tal Shiar and a lot of the military) who were the villains if you go by what was shown in the episodes with Ambassador Spock and the underground.

    Yeah the shift from TOS to TNG was weird, It's like these two species swapped personality traits, TOS Romulans were much closer to TNG Klingons, evil but honorable, while TOS Klingons were just as dishonorable and evil as TNG Romulans.
  • spiritbornspiritborn Member Posts: 4,397 Arc User
    I wouldn't call TNG (and later) Romulans dishonorable so much as very cunning and deceptive, from what little we've seen of the Romulan culture it's clear that honor and keeping your word is valued, though what constitutes that differs from what UFP or Klingons would consider those.
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