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praetorniral
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Well as in the above message title.
I am and always have been a more of a casual player; my even posting here is once in a blue moon. So if I am invited to join a fleet and I then find I seem to have been dropped from that fleet should I even care?
I can start to find being given fleet assignments to do such as collect dlithium or whatever more of a chore. and find my eyes glazing over at emails that then start to fill my in game inbox.
So shouldn't I be quite content to continue playing this game as a lone gun?
Join a fleet? Thank you but no?
I am and always have been a more of a casual player; my even posting here is once in a blue moon. So if I am invited to join a fleet and I then find I seem to have been dropped from that fleet should I even care?
I can start to find being given fleet assignments to do such as collect dlithium or whatever more of a chore. and find my eyes glazing over at emails that then start to fill my in game inbox.
So shouldn't I be quite content to continue playing this game as a lone gun?
Join a fleet? Thank you but no?
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A few thoughts from the perspective of somebody who has been a member of various fleets since 2011 and a fleet admin for about a decade...
1. So if I am invited to join a fleet and I then find I seem to have been dropped from that fleet should I even care?
No, I don't think you should take it personally. They were probably just looking at your last active date. Any fleet credits you've earned stay with your character permanently. Attendance requirements vary from fleet to fleet. If a fleet is at or near it's capacity of 500 members it may be that after a period of time (details are often posted) you may get removed for inactivity to make room for active members. If a fleet is well under it's cap there's really no reason to remove anybody. It's often possible to get an invite back into a fleet via a quick in-game mail or a PM to an existing member.
2. I can start to find being given fleet assignments to do such as collect dlithium or whatever more of a chore. and find my eyes glazing over at emails that then start to fill my in game inbox.
As a fleet member I've never been given an "assignment". Going back many years I was encouraged to do a run for fleet marks whenever I was on though. In my own fleets there isn't any rule that requires participation or contributions. Players do whatever they'd like to do. Most fleets are like this.
In-game fleet mails are usually infrequent and related to activities or major announcements that can't be covered by the message of the day.
Thankfully, 40K fleet dilithium vouchers are available via completing KDF admiralty 10/10 so dil for projects shouldn't be as much of an issue as it may have been years ago.
3. So shouldn't I be quite content to continue playing this game as a lone gun?
There's a handful of items like vulnerability locaters, a colony deflector, and some extra slots for things that some players might find handy. Others enjoy queuing up and doing things with fellow fleeties. It's entirely up to you.
@malazancommander
So... you're saying I [or most people] shouldn't be welcomed to any fleet because we're not Christian? Wow...
Also, why are you bringing politics into the game? What does Russia and/or China have to do with anything? If anything, that is an extremely racist comment on your part.
A few other fleets are rather deceptive in their promotion schemes and do things like require tremendous amounts (far beyond the average) of contributions before the player gets any access to the bank or stores, or simply ignore promoting anyone outside of their inner circles unless the player keeps on their back about it or quits the fleet, using the bulk of the fleet members as little more than uncompensated resource gatherers to support that inner circle.
Also, some fleets (or more often armadas) are rather toxic from infighting.
Fortunately, those fleets seem rather rare, but the way the system is set up abusing it like that really is all too easy.
Also, something I personally find annoying (as an altaholic) is that almost every fleet leader seems to think that all players only ever join one fleet and so don't bother identifying which fleet they are writing about. Any mail that goes out via fleet channels should be automatically marked with the name of the fleet by the system, but it isn't.
First of all, please use paragraphs to understand clearly what you are saying. Also, please do not use capital letters it comes across as shouting and if you spoke this it would hurt my ears.
Now to your criticisms, some fleets are sadly like you mention but not all of them. My Christian fleet Ancient Trinity Disciples that I am a part of does not force anyone to socially interact with fleet members in order to promote their fleet or the other requirements you mentioned. We have a fleet webpage, Discord server, Facebook page, and an Instagram. Why are you bringing other countries like Russia or China into the mix? You are making a very bad comparison here. Also, I think you also need to calm down a smidge. Contrary to midevilchaos, I do not believe that you are a racist or that you meant in a racist way. You are referring to countries and those who lead them and not the people of said nations nor do I see you excluding anyone who is not a Christian from said fleet, so not sure where they thought that is what you were implying.
Yes, STO is a fun game. While this game can be friendly, this is not a wholesome Christian value game, I suggest you rewatch all the Star Trek TV shows and movies before the new ones and reconsider that position. This game is rated T for blood, violence, and language and even has a profanity filter that can be on or off at the viewer's discretion. Gene Roddenberry did not have Christian values nor was he a Christian, he was a secular humanist and his values were based on that. With that said, you are welcome to join the fleet I am in, if you are respectful and follow the code of conduct of said fleet. I can message you in-game if you are interested. Live long and prosper. Have a good day. God bless.
Save the high school lunchroom drama for something more important.
tl;dr OP, you're trolling. And you knew this before you hit<Enter>
I have name - the fact that you stated, "the one who posted above phoenixc", is fairly insulting. If you have something to tell me, I'm right here.
To reply to your comment @sthe91, I did not say he was racist. I said and I quote, "If anything, that is an extremely racist comment on your part." There is a huge difference between what I wrote, and what you said I wrote. So please, don't put words in my mouth.
To answer your comment about the Christian part, he said and I quote:
"instead of creating a friendly Christian value wholesome game that is base on cooperation, understanding and friendship (I believe this is the same value Gene R had always envision)--is now heading toward--TOXIC SOCIAL INTERACTIONS".
He brought religion in a game (discussion) that in its very core, isn't for any particular or specific religious group whatsoever. When someone believes that their religion is better or more important than mine, yes I take exception to that. He could have simply used the words, "family friendly" or "community friendly". Instead, he used a denominative word that excludes me and so many others as players of that community. If you were Muslim, Jewish, Hindu, Sikh, Atheist etc., you probably would have taken exception to his exclusive words as well. When someone can feel that they are part of the majority somewhere, it is very easy for them to exclude others, because why bother? Right?
But ultimately it comes down to personal preference, some people just like to play the lone wolf while others prefer company. There is no wrong way to play it.
THAT ^ up there. Couldn't have put it better!
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> Now to your criticisms, some fleets are sadly like you mention but not all of them. My Christian fleet Ancient Trinity Disciples that I am a part of does not force anyone to socially interact with fleet members in order to promote their fleet or the other requirements you mentioned. We have a fleet webpage, Discord server, Facebook page, and an Instagram. Why are you bringing other countries like Russia or China into the mix? You are making a very bad comparison here. Also, I think you also need to calm down a smidge. Contrary to the one who posted above phoenixc, I do not believe that you are a racist. You are referring to countries not the people of said nations nor do I see you excluding anyone who is not a Christian from said fleet, so not sure where they thought that is what you were implying.
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It’s not racism—it’s nationalism to promote or claim one nation is superior to another. And this is the internet, not America anyway, so the OP still makes little sense anyway.